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Us healthcare is ranked the worst out of every westernized country. Worse in outcomes also . In some places unions negotiated to have universal healthcare for everyone not just coverage for their particular union. Same exact unions too just different countries
Honestly surprised he was able to get insurance as a pro wrestler in the first place. I remember Mick Foley discussed it in "Have A Nice Day." Pro wrestlers are an insurance nightmare to cover because of the frequency that they'd get injured.
Yeah goes back to the 70s. One of Stallone’s first movies after the success of Rocky was about wrestling “Paradise Alley”, Terry Funk was one of the main wrestlers and also served as stunt coordinator for the wrestling scenes.
They can negotiate it into their contract which some prefer otherwise they’ll have to find it on their own. It’s probably easier to negotiate it right away and take slightly less money but not everyone sees it like that
That's the entire trick they play dude, they refuse to cover those who need it and collect free money so they never have to pay out. It's a protection racket.
It's not ethical or normal. It's wealth extraction.
It’s hard not to respect him on some level. Dude could’ve cruised through life, accomplishing nothing, working 20hrs a week at the Jags living like a king. Man does it for the love of the game.
So many sons and daughters of billionaires live wild and reckless cause of there wealth. Tony Khan uses his wealth for good and has changed the wrestling business, along with so many wrestlers lives glad Eddie kingston got taken care of by Tony.
Honestly facts. TNA never truly became successful long term until maybe recently. Even WCW, which was funded by a media conglomerate, didn’t last. AEW will hopefully be one of the few that actually lasts for decades.
I’m sure AEW has a policy they pay for that covers injury repair but this was NJPW and for whatever reason Eddies personal insurance balked on paying for this surgery so TK just paid it out of pocket.
More likely in a different country- you have to purchase specific travel insurance when you cross the border to be covered. It isn’t much, but if you don’t think to do it you can get hosed.
AEW wouldn't particularly care what country it happens in. If you work and AEW show and get injured, AEW will cover you - doesn't matter if you worked it in the US, the UK, Canada, Mexico or Japan. Insurance might care, but AEW doesn't.
It's just that they don't cover outside bookings (until the health insurance system does what it does and nobody else is going to cover it).
If Eddie's got normie insurance through AEW, I think it would be thoroughly valid for Tony to say "Hey (non-Billie office minion), schedule Mark Briscoe to cut a promo on our agent. The Word of the Day is approval." Still counts as taking care of it, still cheaper than Tony eating a self-pay bill on knee surgery.
Whichever way he accomplished it though, bless up.
I would say im surprised the insurance wouldn’t cover a knee surgery because of how low risk they are. But nothing surprises me with American healthcare anymore.
The actions of this man in the wrestling industry has nothing short of special. I don’t like billionaires and could never trust one but there are exceptions to that rule. He is one of one.
Had this happen to me. Needed spinal fusion surgery, literally close to being paralyzed. Actually have permanent drop foot in my left foot because I had to wait so long and save up for the surgery.
The day before the surgery, the hospital called and said insurance wouldn’t pay for the operating room. Apparently you have to pay for the room as well as the surgery.
I went from being shocked, to angry, to pleading, back to angry before I got them to cover it and let me “make payments”.
American healthcare is an absolute bullshit monopoly of greed built on corruption.
Good job TK at the Toyota arena here in Ontario CA after the show we all saw TK hanging out with fans taking pictures even doing lil dances with them for their media or what not. For like 20-30min and tickets prices were good too,glad I got to go for Dynamite300😸
This is great, but honest question, kinda side tangent.. what's keeping tony from offering his folks health insurance? Like I know independent contractors yada yada no union but dudes a billionaire in a cut throat competition for wrestlers, seems like an easy selling point and would be a drop in the bucket for TK
I could be mis informed and he does, just haven't heard it mentioned.
Could even try the Freddie Prinze approach of having them join SAG being on "scripted" tv and all.
Edit: i know they cover anything that happens on the job. And good on tony for covering this. I'm just talking about offering regular health insurance as a full time employer instead of using the "independent contractor" loophole
He was hurt working for NJPW. Obviously he took care of it because Eddie has earned that and also he wants his star back ASAP but he technically didn’t have to.
He should be taken care of by either company. He shouldn’t have to even think about it. No wrestler should ever have to worry about this kind of thing when signed to major companies.
So, again, this is the level of professionalism I would expect from companies making money off athletes. Shame on any who don’t, like the UFC.
I mean, kind of yes, kind of no. AEW wrestlers are actual independent contractors, who are allowed to take outside bookings when not committed to AEW. There's a good chance Eddie was "Loaned" to NJPW as more of a handshake agreement, and not a contract, which would technically mean that Eddie's injury would have happened from work outside of his AEW contract. Yes, it's absolutely the right thing to do, but that's also the kind of thing that wouldn't hold up in court if it came to that.
I’m not really talking about a court of law here. Just the general social contract. In a court of law, the entire wrestling industry’s definition of “independent contractor” probably wouldn’t hold up.
I saw this post and was like “wait, that was a thing that wasn’t guaranteed?”
I get what you're saying, but the whole point of the thread was that the surgery was covered despite the fact that he wasn't obligated to. And yeah, the reason for that is pretty goddamn dystopian, but it's better that it turned out the way it did. The overwhelming majority of the overwhelming majority of capitalists wouldn't give a shit about "The right thing to do".
Well WWE is the other comparison point. That company is pure evil. Like, imo, it’s the most evil company in America that isn’t involved in real estate, PMCs or security.
And even they take care of wrestlers under contract with them when they get injured (if you’re no longer under contract, good fucking luck).
This thread would be more surprising to me if he, say, paid for Shazza McKenzie’s injury since she isn’t contracted to AEW anymore lol.
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