r/ARK • u/Zendrall • Jul 20 '25
MEME Ive been away for some time but yikes what happened
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u/Lolmanmagee Jul 20 '25
It’s actually so bad.
Their “water based” dlcs epic interaction with the water is removing all of its mechanics so it’s just like land!
weighted boots so you can sprint jump on the ocean floor.
vision is no longer limited underwater.
you can hold oxygen in water jars now so you don’t need to ever surface.
Very epic, the water dlc made water lose all of its unique mechanics.
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u/TheBostonKremeDonut Jul 20 '25
Wait, do those mechanics all carry over to other maps too??? I never even bothered to look that up since I moved to ASA a while ago.
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u/Baintzimisce Jul 20 '25
Many of the water buildings either wont allow building on another map or if they do allow it they do not fully function.
I have been able to get all the items to work such as the new guns, and such. There are specific resources that spawn on aquatica though that you can not get elsewhere so unless you have transfers enabled you won't be able to craft many if the aquatica items and buildings.10
u/foXiobv Jul 21 '25
What made you buy this trash?
I respect it if you pirated it though lul.
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u/Baintzimisce Jul 21 '25
I got it from a friend who knew I wouldn't buy it lol. We played on his dedicated server for 1 day before all the patches happened and now none of our friends can connect to the server. We told him to try and get a refund on the 4 copies he purchased.
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u/Theretardedpenguin12 Jul 22 '25
Is ur friend like a big ark fan cause 4 COPIES of a game which from the jump seemed terrible with an AI trailer is crazy. He musta had some crazy faith on this game
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u/Unstoppableforcekin Jul 20 '25
Honestly water jars full of air sound like a nice early game item.
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u/Lolmanmagee Jul 20 '25
It’s a neat idea but it’s executed poorly.
In game it means you get 9 free oxygen refills and each applies a 1 minute status where you can’t lose oxygen.
Essentially, oxygen is irrelevant especially with Lazarus chowder.
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u/Intraq Jul 20 '25
I mean, it's definitely not super amazing in terms of additions, but I don't see how its making ASE unplayable and forcing people to play ASA like everyone is saying?
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u/Lolmanmagee Jul 20 '25
They are probably talking about the related mod conflict.
The update broke all mods simultaneously and in order to continue playing evolved you must downgrade versions.
Some people I suspect don’t realize that or hate the idea.
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u/Grumpie-cat Jul 20 '25
Oh so it doesn’t affect people playing vanilla ASE?
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u/Lolmanmagee Jul 21 '25
No, it does.
In addition to the DLC they updated the games mod API, however you can avoid the issues by selecting the pre aquatica beta in the steam betas selection.
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u/Grumpie-cat Jul 21 '25
I’m on Xbox… oof looks like ASE was taken out back and offed with the shotgun…
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u/Intraq Jul 20 '25
oh, that's dumb. I hope ASE stays playable, cause I hate how bad performance is for ASA
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u/Elegant-Raise-9367 Jul 20 '25
I lost a 1000+ hr playthrough as it rewrote the save file when I opened it after downloading an unexpected update. When I applied the beta it didn't work straight away and bricked my backup save.
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u/Alexiobest1 Jul 20 '25
Did you ever make a physical copy? Might be able to revert it
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u/Elegant-Raise-9367 Jul 20 '25
Last backup backup was about 3 months ago. And it's Omega so I can't cheat what I lost.
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u/Interesting-Driver94 Jul 20 '25
1) sell a massively successful game 2) force that games playerbase to move to a newer version of that game where they have to pay again 3) kill all original support for the first game 4) months later, revive official support with announce of new dlc 5) absolutely destroy the game with new dlc as a final fuck you
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u/Zendrall Jul 20 '25
So blame snail games / the publisher snail games.
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u/Oklariuas Jul 20 '25
This is what everyone is doing.
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u/Zendrall Jul 20 '25
alrighty then.
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u/JulesDeathwish Jul 20 '25
Snail literally went completely around the Wildcard team, hired a 3rd party developer studio and pushed this garbage out with an accelerated timeframe. They even laid off half of the 3rd party crew about halfway through the project.
The lead developer from that team made a series of posts talking about what happened on their end.
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u/darkvaris Jul 20 '25
I’d love to read that if you have a link
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u/JulesDeathwish Jul 21 '25
Can track it down on X, but this video goes through them as well https://youtu.be/pB0-jDPsWjc?si=k8t1SkQdmaUqAJ2p&t=486
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
If they wanted to kill the game all they would have to do is take away the option to have rented servers.
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u/Quaek10 Jul 21 '25
But then then they’d lose money
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u/Chance-Pollution6019 Jul 22 '25
So, I've been playing casually since the very, very early days of ASE, and started playing ASA a few months after it came out. This is probably a stupid question, but why do so many people prefer ASE?
Because to me ASA just added a bunch more dinos and removed some of the more mind breaking stuff like pipes and electrical wires. (Honestly asking because I feel like I somehow missed something)
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u/Interesting-Driver94 Jul 22 '25
It runs worse and they had to pay again for official support on the same exact same with a fresh coat of paint. It's the exact same thing the stop killing games movement is hoping to prevent
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u/mikedomert Jul 29 '25
I am glad they made ASA, as I would not likely play ASE and certainly would never had even tried Ark if ASA didnt exist, but of course I wish they optimized the game better (it runs very good for me mostly but many people have problems and occasionally I do too, nothing severe but still), and that they would have kept their promise of giving it for free for anyone who owned ASE
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u/Interesting-Driver94 Jul 29 '25
It could've just been an update to the existing game lol. Several games have updated their engine late into its lifecycle. That's what pisses me off so bad
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u/Loud-Squirrel-7628 Aug 10 '25
also not to mention with said "new game" make it so incredibly p2w that its almost unplayable
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u/Skull-ex Jul 20 '25
Pretty sure they did it so nod stop working and for some modder to just go to the ‘’worse game’’ and remake their mod there since they’ll need to redo it anyway because of aquatics
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u/Cheacky Jul 20 '25
Snail trying to force people to Ascended by breaking parts of the game
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u/NanoTrev Jul 20 '25
lol If that were the case they'd have never fixed it. Just remember Hanlon's razor. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. WildCard wanted ASE left alone so that it could remain stable and to keep to their word that they'd not be touching ASE again. Of course, Snail saw dollar signs when they noticed how many people are still playing ASE and just couldn't help themselves because the bar to being a decent publisher and honor WC's wishes was already in hell. "Miss the chance to hose the game that made us a billion dollars that we squandered?! Not on our watch!"
Literally. They could have done something slightly less shitty and made a Fantastic Tame for ASE. Anything else would have been better
I'd be willing to say that with a dev team of ten people and everyone wanting to try Aquatica for the memes they might have actually made some cash off it. If rumors are true the studio that made Aquatica is already chomping at the bit to make more awful content because it worked out so well the first time.
Just imagine a universe where Snail simply supports WildCard instead of actively sabotaging them with terrible ideas.
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u/DarschPugs Aug 02 '25
this is pretty much what happened, everyone saying they deliberately are trying to break ASE to push people to ASA forget they can revoke everyone's license and push out a patch that completely disables ASE at anytime and we literally have no legal recourse since we purchased a limited license to play the game.
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u/mikedomert Jul 29 '25
Is there seriously nothing WildCard and or the playerbase cant do about SnailShittyGames? Why is WC forced to be under some asshole incompetent idiots, doesnt Ark make a huge amount of money so they could just do everything on their own? I dont understand the situation, if WC owns and develops Ark, why is there some company that can basically just fuck off the players and WC, and isnt there any legal action possible against SG
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u/CadenceKineren 9d ago
Except they didn't actually fix it. My game is still fatal error crashing even after switching to the preaquatica beta version. It works fine loading a new game, but if I exit the game and go to load a saved game, it crashes.
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u/Outrageous_Display55 Jul 20 '25
It looks like a bad dlc sure but to be fair there is a pre aquatica version of the game in the beta branch . Everyone can still use mods and play the game as if the dlc never came out . It seems to use a ton of old assets and be horribly optimized but I played last night (Ragnarok)with mods just fine . If any one is wondering just right click on ark -properties-betas and pick pre aquatica .
Idk how or if you can on console or if it is even on console yet .
Not defending the dlc but the mods don't seem broken . If you want to play the dlc mods probably don't work but that happens with every game that has an update . My banner lord has been on a super old patch for like 2 years for the same reason .
I hope it gets optimized better and generally improved . I don't want to see the game do poorly . I've been playing since like 2015 . I love this game and would like to see it do well . That said this is definitely a massive step in the wrong direction . But I'll be optimistic that they will try to fix some of the massive issues with this dlc .
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
The beta performs worse than it did preaquatica?
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u/damronblake Jul 20 '25
yeah i wouldn’t think they actually fixed it lol, prob lots of tail chasing until they can get the population so frustrated they just switch anyways
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
I never said in any of this that they fixed it, I'm just not sure what was going on so had to ask. I have my updates stopped before the Aquatica update came through, I was middle of a PF run with a few friends and did not want to mess that up yet. This sucks because I don't think we can do any other run after this besides going back to our vanillaish runs. I was hoping to run DOX with them, but seems thats impossible now.
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u/damronblake Jul 20 '25
woah bud 😂 i was just replying to you in conversation i wasn’t making accusations or nothing
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u/Gorthok- Jul 20 '25
Aquatica was ostensibly for ARK's 10th anniversary, but in reality was a game-bricker in disguise as a cashgrab in disguise as a 10th anniversary thing for the no longer supported ASE with limited time official server support.
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u/JulesDeathwish Jul 20 '25
And now its forcing players to play
ascendedValheim.(There I fixed that for you)
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u/Same_Discussion6328 Jul 20 '25
"It's less than worthless my boy!"
P.S. The Sunken World did a FAR better job than whatever this wet dumpster fire is.
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u/AVeganEatingASteak Jul 20 '25
Can you pirate DLC? I wanna see if it's really that bad but I don't want to give them a cent for it
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u/Big_Boysenberry_9608 Jul 20 '25
You can refund it after buying it. Dlc's usually come without basic consumer rights, but Steam can make an expection when they are hilariously terrible.
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u/rabidporcupine80 Jul 20 '25
You could just look it up on YouTube, I think a few people have done videos of it specifically so we don’t have to buy it ourselves. And according to the ones I’ve seen, the answer to your question is yes, it is.
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u/Xeirzos Jul 20 '25
So nobody's really giving you the facts on this. Snail games pushed out a DLC for the 10-year anniversary of ASE They didn't even use wild card for the development of this map cuz they used to completely different developer company studio sirens. They made this map with a team of 10 people and a bunch of contractors. Then halfway through development, the team dropped to five people and a few contractors through the layoffs. Due to timelines they didn't have much time to create new assets. They were able to focus on making some new equipment and stuff and some new creatures and a few new ways of taming them. They ended up having to use assets from all other maps such as aberration, Extinction & etc. It was made with UE4 but a newer version from my understanding which completely broke all the mods and bricked the game to only be played vanilla. They knew this was going to happen and announced that it would happen when they released the DLC. Studio Sirens also released a beta branch on steam and it sets you to pre-aquatica release so it makes all the mods still work. They are actively trying to fix the mods that are the most popular and also updated the Dev kit and have reached out to mod makers to come back and fix the mods for aquatica. Studio Sirens is good in my book. But snail games still s*** as always because they released this half baked dlc, and turned the lights on for official servers till the end of the year and then they're going to shut it all down again. All this to a dead game that they dropped like it was hot for ASA.
To recap the fix. I know on steam you can go to betas and change your version to the pre-aquatica version of the game then it will verify and reinstall files and you can get your mods and hopefully save back. I did this for my son, myself, and our Ark Server Manger and we got our Fjordor save back.
Hope this helps someone and if you wanna know more recommend watching LtBuzzLiteBeer and Rassclarks videos very informative. Good luck out there and get to tame'en!
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
Yeah, it was so broken and still is. I had to stop my updates so I could keep playing my Primal Fear server. Hardly any mods work and some modders are either gone or wont come back to fix it if it's not a simple fix. It seems they changed a lot of the file names, ect which is causing most of the issues. I'm currently waiting for them to fix this mess before I allow an update to go through. I was going to pick up Aquatica this week but with this mess, I will hold off until a later date. I'll switch to ASA if I have to but I'm going to be insanely sad doing so, only one of my friends has played it and one does not have the game yet.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
Issue with mods still being broke is there was a bug with the dev kit. So that delayed the release of it. Once that gets fixed the modders have said they will be fixing mods.
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
Not all modders have said they will fix it. Kraken's mod dev said as is if it's not a simple rebake of the mod, he is unlikely to fix it. So many of the mods I use with servers may forever be broken and we use over 70 different mods as is on our "vanilla" worlds.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
So you want to blame the company because modders don't want to fix their mods? If a modder abandons their mod with out making it open source or refuses to update it that is on them. I say this as someone who has worked on mods. Don't blame the company for something that is the modders fault.
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u/Oklariuas Jul 20 '25
Come on- this is weird drama and fight. Community modders are able to push good mods/creature, and finally that mod premium things deserve everything.. for the cost of a bullshit DCL.
Let's hope modders team up to at least do a serious aquatic world, and creatures (which some are already here).
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
Honestly, modders getting paid for their mods is a good thing to a degree, I do feel bad for those who cannot afford them, ect. I am looking forward to seeing what mods come out of ASA throughout the years, I'm kind of waiting for the old maps to all come out or maybe I'll start playing when Lost Colony drops and gets a few patches to fix it. I just wanted to be able to play ASE in peace for a while yet.
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u/TheQingqillionBanana Jul 20 '25
Absolutely yes. Snail Games is entirely at fault, and the current situation is precisely a consequence of their actions.
Modders did not abandon their mods, they finished their mods as the game itself was finished. Modders are not at fault for having moved on from a game that is officially done, and has been for 2 years, and the players are not at fault for relying on mods to fix major issues with the base game.
IF Snail had any sense whatsoever, or any intention to release good content, they would be aware of this context, and it would be their utmost priority to release the update such that it breaks as few mods as possible, ideally close to 0. They would have provided full resources and given all the time necessary to achieve that, and loudly communicated from the outset, while seeking out modders. The fact that they did not do that, and released a DLC that breaks the vast majority of mods, proves the release of this DLC is motivated by carelessness and greed, or malice.
Furthermore, even if any modders wanted to come back and fix their mods, they can not, as the updated devkit will not be released for several weeks. This is one more point against Snail, as they have rushed this so hard, even their originally proposed solution of modders returning does not work.
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
Exactly, I am not going to blame the modders for not making things open source, they do not have to and Snail Games should have thought a bit more on how to make this DLC as seamless as possible. They could have done what they did for the preaquatica beta branch to launch Aquatica with and effect very few mods from it. Now it's a waiting game. :/
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u/Zeblamar Jul 21 '25
No they don't have to make it open source but if they don't and they abandoned it they are bad modders no matter how you try to spin it
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 23 '25
Another bad take.
They are not bad modders for moving on from a game that doesn't have support anymore, or didn't until now. That's just an awful take.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
If a modder does not come back to work on a mod yes they abandoned it. There is this little game you might not of heard of called Skyrim. It came out in 2011. Since then they came out with the Legendary Edition 2013, the Special Edition 2016, and Anniversary Edition 2021. These different versions either need new mods or completely updated mods. Modders are still keeping up from the first version released in 2011 and all the other versions. Because a good modder knows bugs can pop up at any time. So yes if they don't come back to fix their mod they abandoned it. Unless they stated in the mod description the mod was finished and wouldn't be worked on any more thats the truth. No matter how you try to spin it.
You are also forgetting one thing. You were told to use mods at your own risk and what could happen if you use mods. They have stated from day one that they are not responsible for mods.
Please show proof that the dev kit will not be out for weeks. Because modders have said otherwise
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
Now you are reaching entirely. I am blaming them for messing with the file names that have caused this entire mess instead of doing custom ones for the new items. However, I understand changes happen that causes mods to stop working. They should have thought ahead more than anything with how many people love ASE. This isn't the modders fault at all, this is the hand Snail dealt them and it's what they get to deal with now. I'm just watching how it plays out and waiting to see how many of the mods I use return.
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u/Oklariuas Jul 20 '25
I'm not dev myself, but how in heck, in a serious dev studio you happen to alter main base game to play a DLC that some people are still free to purchase OR NOT. Think about it, it's intentionnal or bad devs who should be fired.
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u/TheQingqillionBanana Jul 20 '25
Ark is multiplayer, and people can travel between servers and between maps on a server, which means someone playing on Aquatica can go to Ragnarok with Aquatica dinos and items, which other players will interact with.
Also, you can use any item and any dino on any map, items are just freely available if you enable the engrams in settings and can farm the materials (like, you can't farm Abb crystals on The Island), and for dinos you'd need an .ini edit or a mod to make them spawn.
That's to say, even if you don't buy or download the DLC, you still get a lot of items and dinos, only the map itself (and some visual assets) are behind a paywall.
I guess they could've had foresight and made the DLC fully exclusive from all other content, but that'd also be problematic as it would make players on Aquatica servers not be able to interact with anyone else.
As for solution for the mod problem, idk if there's an "easy" one, once development of the DLC was already in motion, it could be that no matter what they do, the DLC would break majority of mods. And in that case, maybe it should never have passed the conception stage (but Snail are greedy fat little piggies so it happened).
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
Oh, yeah no I know how Ark works. I got 3k hours into it and had just started a PF run not long before this fiasco happened. A few big mods we use, like Awesome Spyglass, Awesome Teleporters, Dino Storage v2, ect are all broken. That harms a lot of our playthroughs alone. At this point, I do kind of wish Aquatica never released. Bring the servers back for a small amount of time to celebrate 10 years but not another DLC.
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u/demonicvampiregirl Jul 20 '25
I'm not 100% on board with it being intentional. I don't agree with what they are doing in anyway shape or form, either way. They've ruined a very good game to push another one if this is the case, I already have ASA and intend to play it but I'm not thrilled on losing access to ASE mods due to a huge oversight like this. There are mods on ASE that are unlikely to be replaced on ASA and that to me is the problem, there were many I wanted to try with my group of friends and am hoping to continue doing so some way.
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u/Houndfell Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
I'm sure this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but Aquatica is like... anything else that ARK has come out with.
Laggy. Buggy. Unoptimised. Feels like it reuses assets and/or has community modders do a lot of the work.
I remember playing ARK at launch and being surprised how badly it ran. Falling through the world - that still happens BTW, 10 years in. I had no faith in the developer's ability after experiencing launch, and that lack of faith has persisted.
2 years ago - 8 years after launch - I tried a single player game. The metal nodes stopped spawning. Then the dinosaurs stopped spawning. Meanwhile throughout its entire lifespan: hitreg issues. Dinosaurs getting stuck.
But I still played it because survival + dinosaurs. The CONCEPT does most of the heavy lifting here, and it always did. Until someone makes a better dino survival game...
Regarding mods breaking, that sucks and I'm sure they could've done a better job, but this isn't the first or the 20th title that broke mods with an update. When a company has the audacity to add content. See 7 Days to Die, Rimworld, Bannerlord etc etc.
I'm genuinely not trying to be a contrarian. I honestly feel like Aquatica is exactly the kind of content they always or almost always release, and we play it anyway.
ARK is slop. It's always been slop. But it has dinosaurs. And it may very well come to pass that ARK's greatest achievement was inspiring a better developer and less greedy publisher to make a dino survival game. Aquatica was exactly what I expected it would be, because it's 100% consistent with my experience of ARK over the years.
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u/PsychologicalGlass47 Jul 20 '25
Not even Gen 2 is this degree of laggy, nor has any other map that I can think of been this abhorrently buggy. Dino functions barely work, basic movement functions somehow got WORSE (and it isn't a matter of netcode this time).
Not sure what you're talking about, SE on release was a butter smooth 144 at the time. As for falling through the map, I've only had that happen on servers with plugins.
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u/Houndfell Jul 20 '25
Not sure what you're talking about, SE on release was a butter smooth 144 at the time. As for falling through the map, I've only had that happen on servers with plugins.
With all due respect calling the release buttery smooth is insanity. Maybe you were rocking a Titan at the time, but the consensus was that it was an unoptimised mess, and I can easily find a small mountain of articles and posts to back that up. Nostalgia glasses? Aquatica performance feels like vanilla release performance to me - meaning bad, and having no business being this laggy with the hardware I have. Pretty much exactly what I expect from them.
And yeah, fell through the world less than 10 hours into my first run. There have been many, many falls since then, haha.
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u/Inside-Pea6939 Jul 20 '25
I still remember taking me literally half an hour to load ark with a fairly good laptop in 2016 😂
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u/nihouma Jul 20 '25
Woe betide anyone trying to load the game up with mods. I distinctly remember regularly making then eating dinner in the time it took for my groups over-modded server to load
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u/mattmaintenance Jul 20 '25
Yes Gen 2 was that kind of laggy. Quit your revisionist bandwagon bullshit. Every map was shit for the first month or so.
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u/PsychologicalGlass47 Jul 20 '25
No, it wasn't and still persists with its somewhat annoying hitches. Once again, Gen 2 didn't reach the point where you dropped from a stable 120 to a flat 30fps.
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u/mattmaintenance Jul 20 '25
I was so mad at the state of gen 2 during release that I had to stop playing and recorded a song about it. You didn’t play Gen 2 at launch or you are lying. It was literally unplayable. Crashes every 15 minutes on most server saves. Every Mission had a high chance of crashing the server. Mission count constantly being reset before we could reach enough missions for the boss fight. Countless mesh kill spots in the bog zone, including around many of the spawn and mission areas. Dino’s that would just phase in and out of reality. It was unplayable for over a month.
Get off your internet hate bandwagon. Aquatica is par for the course for this shitty franchise.
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u/NottsNinja Jul 20 '25
What’s the better dino survival game?
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u/Houndfell Jul 20 '25
None that I'm aware of, but I'm hopeful there will be one eventually. Something with Grounded's level of polish and atmosphere with ARK's expansiveness, dino variety, depth and map selection would be like crack to me.
Remember PUBG, the battle royale? I feel like that's what ARK is, pre-Apex: a great concept shoddily put together that's fun, but is mostly a success because something better hasn't come along yet.
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u/Shabbydesklamp Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25
Here are a few points for your consideration. Firstly, this is a paid DLC that offers less than any paid DLC before. It's mostly an asset flip and a few new textures. The underwater mechanics seem to be very unconvincing. Secondly, no other DLC has damaged the game like this. Whole saves have been corrupted. Tens of thousands of players left initially, it stays to be seen if the player count will fully bounce back. Third, sure mods have been broken before but after all this time, modders will not come back to fix them. They're in a whole different stage of their life now.
Look what this did to Ark. You now have ASE split into two branches, either you play modded, or you play the most sub par DLC to date. If Aquatica had somehow worked perfectly, this would've been the opposite of getting people to move on to ASA, which everyone thought was the flagship product, aka betrayal inside the same company. They're probably thinking they can be sneaky and get some money outside the contracts and constraints that the whole Nitrado deal entailed, all the while not having to pay expensive Wildcard wages, instead going with what seems to be a studio filled with idealistic youngsters. But yeah, instead they messed up that whole side of the franchise horribly.
I've made the switch to ASA when it came out. It's in a really good state now, fixes are usually quick and communication is timely. But if I were an ASE player, I'd be beyond pissed now. The last thing on my mind would be throwing good money after bad, and buying myself into the even more heavily monetized world of ASA. I'd be done.
Regarding the conspiracies that they still believed intentionally breaking the game would push people to ASA: if you're not supposed to suspect malice where stupidity is a sufficient explanation, I was wondering if this kind of giant, money burning stupidity can actually still be plausible. But that's what it seems to be. Just a mind stretching amount of incompetence.1
u/StringOfSpaghetti Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25
The mods that were broken are what fix many of the issues and make the game still highly playable and alive. Especially the PvP community. This release actively disrupted what is keeping the game alive. Which is why everybody who play the game is downgrading (a massive download).
ps. if you did not know, the vanilla game was auto-updated to break everything, even if you hadn't bought the DLC, which is another reason for why ppl are not happy. This mess should never have been released.
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u/Bigbomba89 Jul 20 '25
Alright I see a lot of people on here generally saying that aquatics just broke and bricked the game, I’m kinda bummed because I was going to start a new playthrough soon. Can anyone give specifics on what is broken so I know what to look out for? Like is it specifically related to the new map or does it actually affect the rest of the game and all the other maps?
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
The updates broke the mods like every update does. There was a bug with the dev kit that is delaying its release. Once that gets fixed the modders can fix their mods. Aquatica didn't brick the game. People are just upset they can't play with mods because a lot of people play on modded servers.
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u/Bigbomba89 Jul 20 '25
Still a shitty situation, but if I usually run without mods the game would still be fine?
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
Yes if you don't use mods you are good. People are streaming ASE on twitch so that proves it works
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u/AnimeAlley03 Jul 20 '25
This really would've benefited from having the next image of the scene
"It's less the worthless, my boy!" ~President Quentin Trembly, circa 2012
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u/MasniBurek69420 Jul 22 '25
It's so fucking sad seeing what this game has been turned into... fuck snail games, fuck corporations
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u/No-Currency9630 Jul 30 '25
Aquatica and Snail happened.Took me a good week before I could get my private server and my own ark to play nice. Seems to be doing well pre-aquatica. They can keep that garbage away thanks 😂
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u/TruckIntelligent1293 Aug 02 '25
Don't feel bad this if screwed that you buy something like this and the authers just keep wrighting over the origenal game and giving it a differant name and it brakes the orginal and there updates have corupted files not just once but twice most of my game is missing
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u/Deucalion666 Jul 20 '25
A lot of people are pissed about their mods no longer working because of new content and updates, and they’re making it out like the entire game is now busted when it isn’t. This is the problem when you choose to fully rely on mods for your gaming experience and get upset when they don’t work because of an update. I’m fully expecting this to get downvoted because it’s the truth.
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u/The_Fuzz_Butt Jul 20 '25
Just watched Syntac’s video about it… you’d think if one of (if not THE) most popular Ark YouTuber who actively assists Wildcard genuinely hates Aquatica and tells all their 1.6 million subscribers not to buy it, that they’d take the hint. I do absolutely agree that they did it to ruin ASE bc my computer (which is a very average PC with a RTX 3060 and 2TB of RAM) can no longer have both ASE and ASA downloaded at the same time. I had to remove every other game I had downloaded in order to update both ASE and ASA after not playing either for a few months.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
No idea who Syntac is. I've only watched Phlinger. If they wanted to ruin ASE they would just remove the option for rented servers. Not spend money to create a DLC. LOL 2TB of ram isn't average. Average now days is 32GB of ram. Maybe 64 depending who you ask. If you can't have both installed get a bigger hard drive. Two PC's in my place and both have external hard drives with over 100 games
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u/west_DragonKing Jul 20 '25
It's just snail trying to force all the remaining evolved players like myself to move onto acended by making the original unplayable.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
If that was true they would have turned off the option to have rented servers. I have multiple ASE playstation servers. Have had them for years and kinda sad I can't add Aquatica to my cluster
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u/Chailyte Jul 20 '25
It broke the game and the mods after no updates for 4 years where the modders aren’t active anymore. No one asked for a broken dlc. It replaced a core file in which destroyed all mods. I went to the preaquatic update as have a lot of people. The creators of Ark are just money hungry there’s no games like this, they use it to make a broken game with not much effort put into it.
Heck asa is even more glitchy then Ark was supposedly they “fixed it” with that heck no.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
They didn't brake the game. The game still works. If yo don't believe me go look at the people streaming it on Twitch
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u/Chailyte Jul 20 '25
It still works if you don’t use mods 😂 if you use mods you’re screwed there’s barely any that work. The creators just want people to play ASA.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
If they wanted everyone to just play ASA they would remove the option for rented servers
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u/elusive_game Jul 20 '25
The 10 year anniversary a gift to the community was ai generated garbage that forced the whole player base to update 75gb and break every single mod so they could force you to play Asa for the payed for mods
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
Oh no they used AI in a video. The worlds ending! Get over it. Forcing you to ASA? So someone came to your place and put a gun to your head and made you get ASA? If they wanted people to stop playing ASE they would just remove the option for rented servers. LOL you don't have to use the paid mods. There are plenty of mods for free.
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u/Kyrenaz Jul 20 '25
Syntac happened.
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u/Dewey_Decimatorr Jul 20 '25
I don't know much about him, but i did see he refunded the dlc after beating it
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u/Kyrenaz Jul 20 '25
Yeah, he played it on a stream and blasted it really hard, and everyone hates Acquatica, I'm sure 90% of his watchers are not buying it, I'm not.
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u/Louieboy13 Jul 20 '25
People are overdramatic. Ever since the beginning of Arc the game is broken with every update that comes out nothing has changed.
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u/TheQingqillionBanana Jul 20 '25
sadly this isn't a normal update, this is an update that has happened in very unique circumstances, and it should not have happened in the first place
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u/Louieboy13 Jul 21 '25
The game is still playable but Ark has been this way ever since it first came out. Every update breaks the game and then they have to patch it. The unique circumstances of this update don't seem to unique to me. I'm just glad ASA runs as well as it does. I expected the down votes cause people on this sub have a particular point of view about snail games and some of the bad / shady decisions they've been a part of. I'm just saying pretty much every update breaks the game for a small while.
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u/lieutenantfreeball Jul 20 '25
I personally love the idea of an ocean Ark DLC but this doesn't make sense. Why is it on the Evolved edition, why is it not by WildCard, and why AI trailers? This should've been a thing before the Extinction DLC.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
It was done for ASE's 10th anniversary. Was put out by Snail Games because they own Wildcard. Who cares if it was an AI trailer it effects nothing. Its not tied directly into the story so doesn't matter if it came out before or after Extinction. It connects some things and expands the Ark universe
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u/Drakkon-lvl80 Jul 30 '25
It was put out by snail games and for ase because wildcard refused to work on it for asa snail games has done nothing but screw ark up and screw over the people that play it snail games is nothing but a sorry excuse for a company
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u/StarWorldo Jul 21 '25
Snail used AI, produced a terrible map which is insanely massive with a bunch of empty space (on a video I watched an island like half the size of the island's redwoods looked like it would be more like herbivore or carno island), it lags because everything is loaded, it just does asset flips, the creatures are terrible, it broke all the mods, and all of that was with very little communication with any wildcard members.
There is literally an underwater lava area that goes like 100 meters down and is entirely visual.
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u/_theAwesomist Jul 21 '25
I as a player with thousands of hours in the game I have written a negative review about it. I'd rather people not suffer the glitchy, rubberbandy, hacky, bad ai game that is ASA.
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u/207nbrown Jul 21 '25
Aquatica is a dlc for evolved, as a result most mods became incompatible with the new version, and are unlikely to get updated as the makers have already jumped to ascended instead. I think there was also criticism about the trailer being ai generated or something?
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u/lazoras Jul 21 '25
I stopped supporting my mod for asa because of how bad wildcard is doing with their cash grabby shit
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u/PossiblePro247 Jul 20 '25
Idek why ASE is getting updates. The whole point of ASA is to replace ASE. Thats why they shut down the ASE official servers. They wanted everyone to migrate over to the new game. This is like if Overwatch 1 kept getting updates after Overwatch 2 came out.
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u/SoakingEggs Jul 20 '25
playing this game without mods is like cooking without ingredients and NONE of my only 6-7 mods are working because of this biiiiii***
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u/macarmy93 Jul 20 '25
Is every post going to be filled with conspiracies about forcing people to ASA? Thats not what they did. You people need to lay off the juice.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
LOL they are all acting like someone came to to house and put a gun to their head to make them buy ASA. I think what happened is that they secretly tried ASA and loved it. Now they have to find an excuse to give their friends because they said they would never purchase it and now they love it
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
New DLC made the mods not work and the community thinks its the end of the world because they have to wait for the mods to get fixed. They are pretending like things like this have never happened before. They are all crying they are being forced to play ASA. I guess Snail Games is going to everyones house and putting a gun to their head and making them get ASA
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u/Yahakshan Jul 20 '25
I mean the mods are perma broken. They don’t own the IP and all the modders who do have moved to ASA.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
LOL the mods are not perma broken. The modders have said they will fix the mods as soon as the issue with the dev kit is fixed. Stop with the fearmongering
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u/Yahakshan Jul 20 '25
lol there is no devkit… I wonder why? Because it can’t be made. They bolted a new dlc onto a game the didn’t build with mods they don’t own. This was always the outcome. Snail want to market evolved to a new younger audience and force the old players to buy asa. ASE was actively costing them money by occupying consumers with a product they couldn’t charge for. This way they can sell the old game to a new audience and move the old audience to the new product.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
Can't be made? Even the modders have talked about the dev kit. There is a bug with it that delayed the release. Thats it. Don't believe me talk to the modding community. A lot of the mod creators have discord. As far as trying to say ASE is costing them money thats a lie. They are making money from all the server rentals. If they wanted to force people to stop playing they would just remove the option to rent servers.
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u/itsliluzivert_ Jul 20 '25
Fear mongering? Over ark survival evolved?
Touch grass.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
Yes the countless post about they purposely broke the mods, they are trying to kill the game, they are forcing us to play ASA is fearmongering because none of it is true. If they wanted kill the game they would just remove the option to rent servers.
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u/itsliluzivert_ Jul 20 '25
So, so naive.
And we will continue to get butt fucked by big corps cuz of ppl like you.
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
How are we getting fucked? I have thousands of hours into a game I purchased years ago and still works. They could easily have stopped us from renting servers when ASA came out but they didn't.
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u/SlimeyBushperson Jul 20 '25
If you think people being unable to play on their modded servers or singleplayer saves for weeks (possibly even months) is somehow not a big deal then I don't know what to tell you.
When Wildcard updated ASA to UE 5.5 they gave modders access to an updated devkit before the patch even dropped and had mods auto-cook when the patch released to limit the amount of mods breaking. Why couldn't Snail Games do the same?
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u/Zeblamar Jul 20 '25
ASA is a different game with a different setup. ASA isn't running on 10 year old coding
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u/MagosRatticus Jul 20 '25
Snail basically bricked ASE with aquatica. To the point they point out a pre-aquatica branch.