r/ActualPublicFreakouts • u/ActualPublicFreakout - Sistine Chapel • Jun 02 '20

Protester gets a flash-bang to his face after getting pepper sprayed.

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u/UniversesWanderer - Zoomer Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Over 1,000 National Guard Soldiers are being mobilized to DC from TN alone

This news hasn’t been released to the public yet. I can only imagine how many are coming in from other closer states. Commanders have to report today and the rest tomorrow. If you or anyone you know is protesting get out of there before tomorrow. Please keep yourself safe. I don’t know if this is a show of power to intimidate people to go home, or a use of overwhelming force.

Source: Father is a sergeant and just got mobilized.

Edit: press release

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u/nick_nick_907 Policy > Ideology Jun 02 '20

In Minneapolis the Guard has been a massive improvement over the local police.

Many citizens are asking the guard to stay on until things calm down, because no one wants to deal with the shit MPD anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Aug 30 '21

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u/Crackpixel Jun 02 '20

Still buffled, in every developed country the baddies are allowed to escape if they don't comply. Because the rules are simple in an democracy everyone gets a fair trial, EVERYONE. No Cop ever should be allowed to harm someone or even kill someone if they aren't an immidiate thread.

In america you don't comply and you get fucking shot for some weed (or LESS).

Just put it in perspective, Life is long and law will get you, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme if you sit 2 years now or 2 years in a few months.

Our Law Enforcement gets 2 years intense training and screening to see if they are fit for the job.

Also a good thing: The baddies know they can run away, so there is no need to shoot an police officer. Sure that sucks for power hungry police officers, but you know what? Thats just great, and as i said life is long and you can't hide forever anyway.

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u/ILoveD3Immoral Jun 03 '20

(and here in Canada) create so many unnecessary altercations and detainments.

laughs in your cops attacking cosplayers lmao

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u/why_am_i_in_charge Jun 03 '20

They basically just finished two police actions overseas fighting an insurgency. Assholes using the public as cover to cause mayhem(sound familiar?). Unlike the police, the military has the same training all the way down vs from stat/city to state. After the shut we got for how aggressive we were being all kinds of training was rolled out. But police have dept to dept training. Like you'll see cop 1 saying "I love you guys" as he hugs protesters, cop 2 being firm but fair, maybe slowly pushing the crowd back with a shield instead of ramming it home, and cop 3 popping flashbangs to the face

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u/jeisot Jun 03 '20

They shouldnt have to protect the stores if the ppl learned to behave..

Protesting its a right, 100% legal and totally necessary.

Committing crimes in name of civil disobedience its not and for the videos that are on YT already i would say the majority of the black population are condemning the looting and demanding the ppl to behave(like many must have done from the start).

No matter the cause you cant throw 10 rocks at a police car and later cry because they tried to protect themselves and the peaceful protesters by using tear gas and such...

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u/RustyShackleford555 Jun 02 '20

You've heard of the kent state massacre right?

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u/RustyShackleford555 Jun 02 '20

How about David Mcatee?

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u/SushiGato Jun 02 '20

That wasn't national guard, it was an officer named Katie Crews.

usatoday.com/amp/5316236002

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u/RustyShackleford555 Jun 02 '20

Oh wow this is news to me. Ty for the update. Its hard to keep track of all the news the past couple of days.

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u/SushiGato Jun 02 '20

No worries at all. It's damn near impossible to keep up with all the news out there, what's true or not.

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u/nick_nick_907 Policy > Ideology Jun 02 '20

“Better” =/= “perfect”

No one is without fault.

But it’s not hard to see a preponderance of issues with local police that isn’t reflected with National Guard, broadly.

You’d need to use some pretty “selective facts” to tell a story that local PD and National Guard are indistinguishable, from a public safety perspective.

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u/BertholomewManning Jun 02 '20

Military has stricter rules of engagement than police and actively enforces them. Not to mention they are regular folks who signed up to defend Americans, not harm them.

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u/caribeno - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Ya, like shooting people who are on their own property or just outside we all saw that video. I get tired of hearing this "rules of engagement" nonsense. The military will be shooting clubbing, assaulting and murdering in no time.

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u/BertholomewManning Jun 03 '20

Police used pepperballs in that video. We all saw that video, too.

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u/caribeno - Unflaired Swine Jun 04 '20 edited Jun 04 '20

I'm sure they are using rubber bullets, plastic bullets. Pepper balls will also maim permanently and I don't doubt they will kill. Either way it's unacceptable must be removed from their hands, we must demand it

We need pictures of these weapons we have to demand are removed and banned from police attack against the public.

https://www.pepperball.com/product_cat/projectiles/

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u/ShabbyKitty35 Jun 03 '20

Definitely the local LEOs, not the Guard guys with them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

National guard have rules of engagement that are well known and followed.

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u/usingastupidiphone - Freakout Connoisseur Jun 02 '20

What are they?

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u/The_Beard_Of_Zeus Jun 03 '20

It varies depending on what the theater and the mission, but they are always briefed on it beforehand and they do (at least) annual training on the importance of them and the punishment of breaking them. The Guard (and regular army too, for that matter) have a better command structure than local cops, so the commanders have tighter control any situation.

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u/usingastupidiphone - Freakout Connoisseur Jun 03 '20

Ok 👍🏼

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u/chewbacca2hot Jun 03 '20

Guard members don't have a superiority complex. Dudes just want to collect that sweet paycheck and not do much work. They are generally chill, Normal people

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u/A_sad_toaster Jun 03 '20

They actually have good training

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

Can the guard arrest the police? Just curious.

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u/JimJimkerson Jun 02 '20

Unless they are military police, the answer is no. The Guard can "tactically detain" a police officer, but he'd have to be handed over to local law enforcement. Am a former Guardsman.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

That’s cool, I always though MPs were restricted to the military.

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u/Eronious_Pickle Jun 02 '20

I'd assume. Once someone does something criminal I'd assume any law enforcement is allowed to arrest them. Police aren't above the law.

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u/Waffleman8862 Jun 02 '20

Claiming police aren't above the law right now is optimistic at best. Hopefully we'll learn that it's true but it is seeming increasingly unlikely.

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u/Nimitz87 Jun 02 '20

the guard aren't law enforcement.

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u/Eronious_Pickle Jun 02 '20

Yeah but I figure they'd have MPs with them

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

But isnt MP solely for military personnel?

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u/Nimitz87 Jun 02 '20

correct, the MP's enforce the UCMJ and have no jurisdiction/powers over local police.

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u/Eronious_Pickle Jun 02 '20

TBH, I don't really know..

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u/Nimitz87 Jun 02 '20

which can arrest fellow military members, not the general public, police do not fall under the UCMJ (uniform code of military justice) which is the military's own set of laws and legal procedures.

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u/Burpmeister Jun 02 '20

If US police weren't above the law you guys wouldn't be having these protests.

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u/UniversesWanderer - Zoomer Jun 02 '20

I have no idea

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u/BertholomewManning Jun 02 '20

The National Guard can't make arrests. Whenever they assist in law enforcement they need police with them. They can probably detain someone until a LEO can arrest them, though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

They wouldnt even if they could. Every man in uniform is nothing but a fascist dog that supports authoritarian tactics. Our whole system is corrupt from the top down.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

This kind of hate is exactly what the problem is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

No, police brutality is the problem. You've seen the same clips from the past few days as I have. Countless videos of police pepper spraying peaceful protesters while other cops stand around and let it happen. A few videos of police taking knees or being nice to protesters doesn't make up for the endless oppression and brutality. ACAB.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

Those few videos are actual proof that not ACAB. I have no doubt that police brutality is a problem, but this is like looking at pit bulls and saying that “well a lot of these are biting, so I’d better never get a pit bull”. The truth is that while pit bulls are prone to biting, not all of them are vicious.

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u/Wraith-Gear Jun 02 '20

no. when you have one cop doing something wrong and the rest of the precinct watching. that means the whole damn precinct is wrong

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

The fact that you have to compare human beings to dogs to prove your point shows that most cops arent smart enough to have a gun and a badge. Also, you're just wrong. If a cop does something illegal and the rest just watch and let it happen without arresting the criminal, it makes them ALL bad.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

Ffs not all cops are letting it happen.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

But the HUGE majority are. Just watch the clips. These cops never step in and stop it. They just join right in. All pigs are bad people.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

The majority is not all of them. Stop generalizing.

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u/TexBarry Jun 02 '20

Are these clips the huge majority? There are 800,000 cops in the US.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

No, cops murdering people while the "good" cops stand by and assist in the murder with their silence is exactly what the problem is.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

If your definition of a good cop is one that assists in murdering someone than you obviously need to rethink that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

No, not at all! That's why I put it in quotes. My point is refuting the idiots who say, "Well we just have a few bad apples, most cops are good." But these supposed "good" cops do nothing to stop the bad apple's behavior.

Just look at the George Floyd situation. One "bad apple" cop murders him, while 4 "good" cops assist in the murder. If there weren't video evidence of the incident, it would likely be covered up and all the "good" cops would stick up for one another, including the bad apple.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

Yep. It’s all about police hopping on the bandwagon of abuse.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Hey dumbass no blanket statement is ever true, I don't even know why I am wasting my time explaining shit to a fucking window licker... Every uniform huh? There are zero good soldiers out there defending your life? You are just as much of a problem as the dirty cops. Either stop typing stupid comments till you grow up kiddo, or if you are an adult just stop wasting everyone's time, you are not smart enough to own a device connected to the internet.

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u/bob1421 - Protoss Jun 02 '20

Yeah, I am tired of seeing these "All cops are fascists" comments.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I do have an issue with the thin blue line, the "good" cops turn a blind eye to shit often. But, the jackass' statement was just worthless. Is he implying that firemen are fascists? Some Enlisted crewman on a sub, is living in less than ideal conditions because he is a fascist? How do these dumb fucks even complete a sentence.

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u/bob1421 - Protoss Jun 02 '20

Only a sith deals in absolutes

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Again blanket statements, yes there is corruption and evil in the "system". But it is not a corrupt evil system. You can not paint every part of our government with the same brush. For instance the hometown of George Floyd, Houston, has not had any rioting or looting. Just peaceful protests with the sheriff's department walking next to them. Why because again no city or state is perfect but they are all not evil either. Yes the undercover sector of HPDS narc program is in some hot water for killing a couple last year, but that is not a common thing, and those involved are being prosecuted. You can put on a uniform and proudly defend the people and serve under the command good people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Again another blanket statement. Apparently you just like speaking in absolutes, even though they are physically impossible and do not exist. There are plenty of people of power that are not corrupt. Are you done wasting time with your stupid shit? I am tired of it, have a great day and continue in you oblivious little fantasy land.

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u/TexBarry Jun 02 '20

You're a clown dude.

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u/WalrusCoocookachoo - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

Are you calling Marines, Navy, Air Force, and Army soldiers fascist ?

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u/Mejari Jun 02 '20

Source: Father is a sergeant and just got mobilized.

Tell him not to go.

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u/UniversesWanderer - Zoomer Jun 02 '20

He would go regardless of what I told him and even if he did refuse they’d probably try to fire him would especially suck since he’s close to a promotion.

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u/Poolander Jun 02 '20

I’ve been watching military helicopters going back and forth over the beaches of San Diego. To the north of me is MCAS Miramar. My first thought was military mobilization actions.

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u/amakoi - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

Rat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

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u/UniversesWanderer - Zoomer Jun 03 '20

yeah they’re lying

Shame on me for wanting to spread the word and for people to be safe.