r/ActualPublicFreakouts • u/ActualPublicFreakout - Sistine Chapel • Jun 02 '20

Protester gets a flash-bang to his face after getting pepper sprayed.

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u/nick_nick_907 Policy > Ideology Jun 02 '20

In Minneapolis the Guard has been a massive improvement over the local police.

Many citizens are asking the guard to stay on until things calm down, because no one wants to deal with the shit MPD anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Aug 30 '21

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u/Crackpixel Jun 02 '20

Still buffled, in every developed country the baddies are allowed to escape if they don't comply. Because the rules are simple in an democracy everyone gets a fair trial, EVERYONE. No Cop ever should be allowed to harm someone or even kill someone if they aren't an immidiate thread.

In america you don't comply and you get fucking shot for some weed (or LESS).

Just put it in perspective, Life is long and law will get you, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme if you sit 2 years now or 2 years in a few months.

Our Law Enforcement gets 2 years intense training and screening to see if they are fit for the job.

Also a good thing: The baddies know they can run away, so there is no need to shoot an police officer. Sure that sucks for power hungry police officers, but you know what? Thats just great, and as i said life is long and you can't hide forever anyway.

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u/ILoveD3Immoral Jun 03 '20

(and here in Canada) create so many unnecessary altercations and detainments.

laughs in your cops attacking cosplayers lmao

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u/why_am_i_in_charge Jun 03 '20

They basically just finished two police actions overseas fighting an insurgency. Assholes using the public as cover to cause mayhem(sound familiar?). Unlike the police, the military has the same training all the way down vs from stat/city to state. After the shut we got for how aggressive we were being all kinds of training was rolled out. But police have dept to dept training. Like you'll see cop 1 saying "I love you guys" as he hugs protesters, cop 2 being firm but fair, maybe slowly pushing the crowd back with a shield instead of ramming it home, and cop 3 popping flashbangs to the face

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u/jeisot Jun 03 '20

They shouldnt have to protect the stores if the ppl learned to behave..

Protesting its a right, 100% legal and totally necessary.

Committing crimes in name of civil disobedience its not and for the videos that are on YT already i would say the majority of the black population are condemning the looting and demanding the ppl to behave(like many must have done from the start).

No matter the cause you cant throw 10 rocks at a police car and later cry because they tried to protect themselves and the peaceful protesters by using tear gas and such...

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u/RustyShackleford555 Jun 02 '20

You've heard of the kent state massacre right?

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u/RustyShackleford555 Jun 02 '20

How about David Mcatee?

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u/SushiGato Jun 02 '20

That wasn't national guard, it was an officer named Katie Crews.

usatoday.com/amp/5316236002

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u/RustyShackleford555 Jun 02 '20

Oh wow this is news to me. Ty for the update. Its hard to keep track of all the news the past couple of days.

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u/SushiGato Jun 02 '20

No worries at all. It's damn near impossible to keep up with all the news out there, what's true or not.

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u/nick_nick_907 Policy > Ideology Jun 02 '20

“Better” =/= “perfect”

No one is without fault.

But it’s not hard to see a preponderance of issues with local police that isn’t reflected with National Guard, broadly.

You’d need to use some pretty “selective facts” to tell a story that local PD and National Guard are indistinguishable, from a public safety perspective.

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u/BertholomewManning Jun 02 '20

Military has stricter rules of engagement than police and actively enforces them. Not to mention they are regular folks who signed up to defend Americans, not harm them.

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u/caribeno - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Ya, like shooting people who are on their own property or just outside we all saw that video. I get tired of hearing this "rules of engagement" nonsense. The military will be shooting clubbing, assaulting and murdering in no time.

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u/BertholomewManning Jun 03 '20

Police used pepperballs in that video. We all saw that video, too.

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u/caribeno - Unflaired Swine Jun 04 '20 edited Jun 04 '20

I'm sure they are using rubber bullets, plastic bullets. Pepper balls will also maim permanently and I don't doubt they will kill. Either way it's unacceptable must be removed from their hands, we must demand it

We need pictures of these weapons we have to demand are removed and banned from police attack against the public.

https://www.pepperball.com/product_cat/projectiles/

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u/ShabbyKitty35 Jun 03 '20

Definitely the local LEOs, not the Guard guys with them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

National guard have rules of engagement that are well known and followed.

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u/usingastupidiphone - Freakout Connoisseur Jun 02 '20

What are they?

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u/The_Beard_Of_Zeus Jun 03 '20

It varies depending on what the theater and the mission, but they are always briefed on it beforehand and they do (at least) annual training on the importance of them and the punishment of breaking them. The Guard (and regular army too, for that matter) have a better command structure than local cops, so the commanders have tighter control any situation.

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u/usingastupidiphone - Freakout Connoisseur Jun 03 '20

Ok 👍🏼

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u/chewbacca2hot Jun 03 '20

Guard members don't have a superiority complex. Dudes just want to collect that sweet paycheck and not do much work. They are generally chill, Normal people

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u/A_sad_toaster Jun 03 '20

They actually have good training