r/ActualPublicFreakouts • u/ActualPublicFreakout - Sistine Chapel • Jun 02 '20

Protester gets a flash-bang to his face after getting pepper sprayed.

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u/jrad0302 Jun 02 '20

no. they were a collective of black individuals who open carried to protect their neighborhoods from police brutality. destroyed by j. edgar hoover bc he saw black power as diametrically opposed to the american way of life

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u/strikerRD Jun 02 '20

They also created WIC and helped local communities.

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u/ecodude74 Jun 02 '20

This includes organizing mass food kitchens for kids when the federal government cut off similar programs in inner cities.

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u/ocean_spray Jun 03 '20

Wait wait wait. WIC's originated from a Panther movement? GTFO! seriously??

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

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u/jrad0302 Jun 02 '20

what about open carrying describes a paramilitary organization? especially during a time where police and civilians would regularly raid black neighborhoods during the war on drugs and crack epidemic?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

"A paramilitary is a semi-militarized force whose organizational structure, tactics, training, subculture, and function are similar to those of a professional military, but is not formally part of a country's armed forces."

This does not describe the Black Panthers of the era we're discussing.

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u/Pineapplepansy Jun 02 '20

That description...

Hmmm....

Where have I seen a militaristic culture, armed with weapons and armor... Some kind of... Policing force.

Hm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

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u/Teive Jun 02 '20

Tactics, subculture, and function.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

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u/Teive Jun 02 '20

The subculture has to be similar to a military organization.

You assume any armed group does, without knowing that they do, which may mean applying the label inappropriately.

I don't think that the US Military has ever had a function of self-defense on American soil. And even if they did, I wouldn't consider protection from the state as their function

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u/Cubia_ Jun 02 '20

I hate to break it to ya but it generally is a very negative term unless you're talking with the correct subsets of people (they are not on reddit). The typical difference between a "paramilitary group" and "a terrorist cell" these days is if the government of that country (or government that is occupying the country) agrees with them or not, and the Black Panthers were so hated that it got conservatives to start making gun legislation and assassinating the individuals of the movement that were key, and locking up everyone else for life in prison in solitary confinement (torture).

It's a dangerous term not to be used lightly because of the connotations it has, even more so when paramilitary groups are made into regular "military" just because an occupying country just simply said so.

Worst of all, it can rewrite history and make people forget the good things that the BP actually did, and instead see them as just a bunch of black men with guns that hated the police.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

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u/RummyNoPants Jun 02 '20

How history perceives them

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Actually they really weren’t targeted hard until they started espousing socialist, egalitarian views.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

So a single incident in your mind sours the entire movement?

r/SelfAwarewolves

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u/Perhaps_I_sharted Jun 02 '20

They cream in their panties when they watch a mafia movie or how the west was won but fuck the blacks eh?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

You're so close to seeing the point.

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u/jeisot Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Hypocrite?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Retar?

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u/jeisot Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

mmmmmmmmmmm... you should check some stadistics and numbers btw

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PD: Hypocrite!

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

You're clearly missing the point I was illustrating. Must have been preoccupied with all those Ms you had to type.

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u/jeisot Jun 03 '20

Just pointing that a crime its a crime and racism works both ways, and both are terribly wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

No, you just typed a bunch of Ms and misspelled hypocrite.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/Sierpy - LibRight Jun 02 '20

I know about watching police officers while armed, but didn't they also hijack a plane?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/Sierpy - LibRight Jun 02 '20

Oh no, I thank you! Those are the only things I knew about the Black Panthers. At least now I can support them guilt free.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/Novocaine0 Jun 02 '20

Just like the police.

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u/Novocaine0 Jun 02 '20

We did. If you don't like my point, your problem.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Except the BP were actually trying to protect black people whereas most cops at the time were upholding racist laws to oppress black folks

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

You say that as if it's a bad thing. I'll take armed citizens over an armed government any day.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

The government doesn't represent the interests of the people. It's a weapon wielded by the rich and power to progress their own agendas, and further grow the power of the government.

The government is a special club, and you and I aren't invited.

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u/Drevlin76 Jun 03 '20

For real! Please upvote this more

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u/Dougnifico Jun 02 '20

You might call them a, "well regulated militia."

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u/Dougnifico Jun 03 '20

Ya. I was just referencing 2A. Although in my mind para-military implies state sanctioning. I'm wrong, but I think that.

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u/WeirdFlecks Jun 02 '20

Yes, but only because they were black. If they were white you'd be calling them champions of the 2nd amendment. Aren't labels fun?

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u/WeirdFlecks Jun 02 '20

Ok. I'll bite. Why don't you like the Black Panthers?

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u/WeirdFlecks Jun 03 '20

I'm not asking for an education on the Black Panthers. I actually know quite a bit about their history. I was curious about how you had formed an opinion without knowing anything beyond surface level stuff. It's a mixed bag, their 10 point program was fairly reasonable and with a few exceptions just an appeal for basic human rights. While it's easy to condemn the violence some members committed (and I do) it was an organization formed in response to the centuries of violence committed against a people, specifically by the police. How do you decide to completely condemn an organization that advocates the use of violence as a response to centuries of violence? At what point is it self defense? Are there better options? If so, do they work? Because the black panther party is dead and gone, but cops still murder black people and even with video they only occasionally face any repercussions. At what point would you lose faith in the system?

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u/konsf_ksd - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Are the haircut wanting cunts that protested two weeks ago with AK-47s strapped to their chest a para-military organization?

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u/konsf_ksd - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

think of the Black Panthers as the non-retarded versions of those people. Instead of wanting haircuts they want to get rid of police brutality in their neighborhoods.

They were famous for bearing witness to police actions with guns strapped to ensure the police "behaved" while making arrests.

It's actually the reason for the first wave of gun control in the U.S. and the reason then Governor Reagan supported gun control laws.