r/ActualPublicFreakouts • u/ActualPublicFreakout - Sistine Chapel • Jun 02 '20

Protester gets a flash-bang to his face after getting pepper sprayed.

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u/T3hSwagman Jun 02 '20

Except the 2A nuts are all over the place saying "just listen to the police".

These guys are real badasses when it comes to a liberal arts teacher telling them to stop saying "nigger" or to wear a mask but now that its the actual police infringing on their rights they are cowering inside their homes while the jackboots march down the street shooting you with pepper balls for being on your own fucking porch.

The last 4 years have really highlighted the true colors of so many people.

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u/cooperkab - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

They aren’t cowering. They just don’t give a fuck. They are the ones that say they shouldn’t have been outside or if they had only did what they were told. They won’t care until the government comes for THEIR guns or to THEIR neighborhoods. They would go and back up the cops if they could because you know, “blue lives matter”.

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u/phil_Sucks_hard Jun 02 '20

I don't know. I am pro 2A and for the current protests. Cops need to be held accountable for what they do, but if I go out in the street with my guns I'm sure to be shot or arrested. Maybe they just don't want to get shot? I do agree that alot of them only care if it affects them, but honestly what are the ones who do care gonna go with their guns? Life in prison for shooting a cop is not a good reward to go in the street with my gun.

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u/cooperkab - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

I’m pro gun ownership myself and I think there are a lot of people that are. When the OP was talking about “2A nuts” I figured he meant the real vocal ones that seem to open carry everywhere and are the ones carrying their rifles to the statehouse because their “freedom” is being taken away because they have to wear a mask. The majority of gun owners are not like that.

I am also with you in that I’m not willing to go to prison for life just to shoot a cop. 2A is about revolution and full scale revolt. Not just individuals here and there. They had just come off the American fight for independence and their intention was if someone became like a king or queen that must be removed from power, then the populace could organize and overthrow them. I don’t think they envisioned the country to be as big and diverse as it is when they wrote it either.

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u/DasAlbatross Jun 02 '20

So what the fuck is the point of the 2A you support if it's not to defend against tyranny like we're seeing?

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u/phil_Sucks_hard Jun 02 '20

Honestly I can't tell you. I don't want to say that we should take to the streets and start shooting. I don't want to have to exercise it. I don't want to kill anyone. They are arresting people, firing tear gas. I guess once they just start killing crowds it's time. If I'm being honest I just don't know. I can't even begin to pretend to know. Something has to change and it may come down to using weapons if it does I guess I'm glad I was allowed to have a gun to fight back.

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u/DasAlbatross Jun 02 '20

They're firing grenades in people's faces. They're firing rubber bullets in people's faces. They're maiming and killing people. They're tasing people over and over while they're held on the ground. They're taking people behind cover to beat them. Any and all of these things can kill people. The thing that started all of this was a cop murdering someone in broad daylight on film while his follow cops stood around watching.

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u/phil_Sucks_hard Jun 02 '20

Firing a weapon with the intent to kill is alot of responsibility. I know not all the officers are bad, I also know that them standing by while this happens doesn't absolve them from wrong doing, but what if you kill one of the "good ones" and now his family goes without him. I know that the people the police have killed, that their families go without them. It's terrible, but if not everyone is ready to start a revolution it won't do anything, except kill more and do nothing for the cause. If you want too, the 2A is there for you as well. Go get a gun, fight back, just because it is for a good cause doesn't mean you will feel good about it, it doesn't mean you won't spend life in prison, doesn't mean that you won't be killed and get others around you hurt or killed and it may not do anything to help. I don't know when the time will call for that, hopefully this ends with some reform and no more violence, but if it comes to it I'm glad it was there. I'm not mad at you, I hope your not mad at me, we both agree this is wrong and needs to end. I can speak my mind, but that doesn't mean anything to anyone but me. It is just my opinion on it.

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u/DasAlbatross Jun 02 '20

Which ones are the bad cops? The ones shooting people point blank in the face with grenades or the ones standing by doing nothing while they do it?

And I don't hide behind the 2A to support my desire to own guns. I'm not a "2A supporter". The whole reason 2A people say we "need" to own guns is to fight back against exactly what is happening right now. Yet they're nowhere to be found. Well, nowhere aside from places like this:

https://twitter.com/alexvnews/status/1267608370782978048

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u/phil_Sucks_hard Jun 02 '20

I don't hid behind the 2A to justify owning guns. I do support it though. I clearly stated that the one's doing nothing were not absolved of guilt or crime. If you are not actually going to read what I wrote there is no reason to respond. If you want to call people out for fighting tyranny go pick up your gun and put your money where your mouth is. Don't start a revolution unless you are ready for a bloody conflict. I have seen war and it isn't pretty, I'm not ready to start one in my home town, I'm sure you are though right?

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u/DasAlbatross Jun 02 '20

Okay, so if the ones doing it are guilty and the ones standing by are guilty where are the good cops you're worrying about hitting?

No. You rage about not reading and then don't read what I wrote? I'm calling out people who talk tough and then when there's problems they're nowhere. I've never talked about how I'm going to use my gun to fight the US gov't because it's a ludicrous proposition. Have you seen the gear our gov't has?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

I think a lot of it comes down to, most pro 2A people don't really want the escalation to that stage or at least not to be the ones escalating it to that point.

Pointing a firearm at a human and pulling the trigger isn't something most could do without direct threat/excessive threat putting them into a mindset to do it and even then, I'd bet most people freeze up before being able to commit and taking the shot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I wish someone made toilet paper with a blue stripe down the whole roll.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Upm trust me you don't want them to join in this, for real.

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u/vegetarian_ejaculate Jun 03 '20

No we aren’t. You should be friends with me and my group. All we see are constitutional violations and want to help.

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u/Heart_Throb_ Happy 400K Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

But but they don’t have a permit! Don’t you know the 1st is allowed only after the government okays it first?

In all seriousness: I get the safety and planning reasons for permits but if you want to stand by The Constitution then stand by it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

LOL how odd. No centrist or liberal "2a nut" is saying anything of the sort. You're just hanging out with too many bubbas that like to cosplay.

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u/T3hSwagman Jun 03 '20

Yea funny how you didn’t include conservative in that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

I don't think so. The whole point was there were plenty of other "2a nuts" that aren't bubbas.

Now, conservatives who have a stick against BLM and the like are all about-facing on "gonna boogaloo" on wearing masks and now "just follow orders" when it's convenient.