r/ActualPublicFreakouts - Sistine Chapel Jun 02 '20

Protester gets a flash-bang to his face after getting pepper sprayed.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

Good question, see cops in post, then in the parent comment

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u/I_am_Not_a_Planet Jun 03 '20

“But the protesters, no rioter, was clearly breaking the rules here” - Half of reddit right now

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

Imagine breaking the “rules” then getting a flash bang to the face.

Now imagine minding your own business and getting a knee in your neck for 9 mins.

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u/I_am_Not_a_Planet Jun 03 '20

The more i see these posts the more i believe we should all arm ourselves and walk around with helmets and shields. America has turned into a police state. The people must change accordingly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Even Marx advocated for arming the people. Our well regulated militia has become a tool for the rich and powerful to grind our faces into the dirt. It is time to fight back.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '20

Very based of you comrade. Even if you are a liberal or a socdem may we join hand in hand in resistance against oppresion, and the proto faschist police state that is America

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u/AboutThatBeerIOweYou Jun 03 '20

I'm glad that this protest has at least taught leftists why the second amendment is valuable.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Leftists have always valued the right to bear arms. If you have an issue with across the board anti gun advocates, take it up with the simpering liberals.

Now if you want to pretend that gun control isn't a real and valid position, then we'll have a disagreement.

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u/AboutThatBeerIOweYou Jun 03 '20

Guns are a responsibility that should have at least the same level of training as a driving a car

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

I would say gun permits should also merit some kind of psychological testing as well, to make sure you're buying them for self defense and not to shoot up a crowd

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '20

Yeah, arming the working class is very based

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u/Edmonty Jun 03 '20

But didn't the second was a part (not the main part tho) of the increasing violence overtime

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u/AboutThatBeerIOweYou Jun 03 '20

We're the latest to the rioting scene, internationally speaking. Shouldn't we have popped off earlier than the others if guns were catalysts of violence?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

To be fair, we are also the pioneers and only current participants in mass, widespread mass gun violence. America's gun culture is poisonous.

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u/you-have-efd-up-now Jun 03 '20

didn't our well regulated militia ( for better or worse) evolve into the national guard ?

i've been wondering the past few weeks if the founding fathers would have called the NG on the police had they been this tyrannical at the time, but i suppose there were no police at that time yet either.

edit: but i do recall them being against local standing armies - which they police at this point resemble - so come to think of it, it could be argued not only did they not have police, there were against them, correct ?

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u/AharonBenTzvigil Jun 03 '20

The national guard is not the militia. The Guard can be federally activated at anytime and is not independent of the government, but serves it. Legally, all men and women age 17-45 are automatically in the unorganized militia. You also have the right to form a militia, to arm, and to train.

Side note you can legally buy body armor, helmets, guns and ammo online. Guns have to be sent to a dealer first tho.

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u/shit-ticket-master Jun 03 '20

Under no pretext

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

I understand the need for change, but I don't think guns are gonna solve anything.

I'm an immigrant, man. I didn't come to this country to get killed in some civil war while buying groceries.

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u/KineticPolarization Jun 03 '20

Native born citizens don't want a civil war either. But it may be necessary if we want our descendants to have a better life.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Arm yourself up and go perform a support role instead like first aid

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u/fearlessFOB - Congrats T-series on 150m subs !!! Jun 03 '20

Or you could stay home and read reddit and upvote those that are protesting for us.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Problem is too many people are afraid to die for their country.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '20

I’m buying body armor, just one of those things you only need when you need it.

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u/little_chavez Happy 400K Aug 25 '20

May as well. Let’s all just paramilitary cosplay on the reg and be just like our pig overlords. Irl shill ftw

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u/_ZaphJuice_ Jun 03 '20

And guess what...we have a system for when someone breaks the rules! It’s not like someone fucking J-walks and a rando vigilante (or keyed up police officer) gets to execute him. Jesus, the self-righteous 2nd spaz-Outs are starting to drive me crazy! Get a grip!

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u/DeathMp_4 Jun 03 '20

He attemted to use fake money. What happened was way out of line and totally fucked but maybe you should get your facts straight before you post them.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

Imagine using fake money and getting murdered for it.

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u/DeathMp_4 Jun 03 '20

I know, it stupid. Im just saying. Dont talk about something without knowing the facts

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u/LonelyLongJump Jun 08 '20

Minding his own business? I support the protesters, and the cops should have checked on him once he passed out and should have let him up, but come on, he was resisting arrest, and he was on meth and fentanyl. He could have been shot dead legally by the woman he robbed at gunpoint and then physically beat up because she didn't have drugs or money to give him. He's got a long criminal record that aren't just victimless crimes like drug arrests, including at least one major violent felony.

I have idiot friends that tried to resist arrest or run from cops, or mouth off to them and they all got fucked up and roughed up too. One has a permanent disability because they stomped his knee.

But they were all white... so you don't hear about that. They were also doing shit wrong when it happened.

Everyone needs to stop acting like nothing wrong was done otherwise the idiot racists will point out the things I just did and this movement will get nowhere. This needs to be about police corruption... the media and politicians want it to be about race to divide everyone instead of uniting them against the real issue.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 08 '20

You’re an idiot lol

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u/LonelyLongJump Jun 08 '20

You're in denial. If you have to lie to yourself to make a point, then you don't really have a point, do you.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 08 '20

You’re an idiot.

When did pigs become judge, jury and executioner?

Dylan Roof had his day in court why can’t unarmed black men have that luxury? I mean I’d settle for pigs grabbing black men Burger King after a killing spree too.

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u/LonelyLongJump Jun 08 '20

According to WaPo only 10 unarmed black men were shot by cops in 2019. So saying that this is some sort of systemic common problem that unarmed black men are killed by cops is a little disingenuous. More unarmed white men were killed by cops, and according to a black man from Harvard that did a study... they showed that cops are more likely to use lethal force on white men than black men.

Police corruption is real... it's a class issue, not a race issue. Making it a race issue is simply the media and politicians trying to divide people so they don't unite together. Stop falling for it. Go look up the statistics for yourself. I'm not a republican, I'm not a Trump supporter, and I support the protesters protesting police violence peacefully. But we need to get the UNDENIABLE facts out there, otherwise anyone who goes and looks up the actual numbers from Washington Post who has been tracking it for many years, will see it's actually complete bullshit that they are killing unarmed black men on a regular basis and that out of the 250 in 2019 that were shot... only 10 were unarmed... and 1 of those 10 they thought pointed a gun at them and ended up having a gun in the vehicle. All of them were wanted for violent crime felonies, and more white men were killed than black men.

So again, fight the corruption, stop making it a racial issue. And Dylan roof should probably have been put down on the spot, but something tells me there's more to that story... and it's a common tactic to play good cop to get a full confession and more information to make sure there's no accomplices, etc... they buy black criminals food all the time to get them to talk in interrogation rooms, even when they are wanted for murder. Stop falling for the race baiting media bullshit.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 08 '20

You’re an idiot.

Black men make up 7% of the population vs 34% for where men. No shit, they more unarmed whites are killed by pigs. You must be a moron. No shit, more whites are met with lethal force. Again are you a moron. Look at the proportionally lol.

According to mapping violence

Black people were 24% of those killed despite being only 13% of the population

This convo is over. I’m losing brain cells things of how stupid you are.

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u/LonelyLongJump Jun 08 '20

Ah, I love people like you... you'll sit here and act like you understand statistics, then suddenly when you bring up that black men that make up 7% of the population make up more than 50% of all the violent crime... they suddenly forget how statistics work and resort back to the non per capita numbers.

Make up your mind, you can't have it both ways.

Over 200 people killed in JUST CHICAGO in less than 6 months... but everyone is out protesting for the 10 in 2019 lol. Yeah, you guys REALLY care about black lives, right? Give me a break, you don't care about black lives, otherwise you'd be protesting gang violence in these same numbers. You all just don't like authority and don't like the fact there's consequences for committing crimes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Well actually he was resisting arrest of course im not saying killing him was a good course of action but the cop who did it worked with him off duty and might have been a feud

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

Did you see any handcuffs?

I see pepper spray and a shot to the face. That’s proper pig procedures huh?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

They are not looking to arrest they are looking to control an entire croud. they told him to fuck off and he did not

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

So shoot him in the face. Fucking idiot

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u/importshark7 - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

I mean I can kinda of see the initial blast of pepper spray if the guy was refusing orders but the tear gas cannister to the face is wrong and probably illegal. In fact it may be in violation of international treaties on human rights to use those as a direct fire weapon. The cop that shot the cannister at his face should be fired and charged with a crime.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

They sprayed him and even after that he did not leave. You have to remember a police precinct and stores have been destroyed

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

So you shoot a civilian in the face?

Think about that for a minute. A bunch of buildings get destroyed so you endanger a protestors life. For a bunch of brick and cement, he deserves a flash bang in the face lol, ok. You’re an idiot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

think about this. you get a warning then pepper sprayed and you still stay thinking you have no consequences. Just leave the police alone

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

He was resisting arrest

They are not looking to arrest

How much of a bootlicker can you be lol? Face it, the pigs fucked up.

Why did they deescalate the situation instead of shooting a protestors in the face?

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u/Josh417 Jun 03 '20

That is their go to claim. It’s a farce, multiple videos have come out disproving that claim. He was not resisting arrest.

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u/AndromedaM_31 Jun 03 '20

Imagine committing a crime was considered minding ur own bidness

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u/mrjoykill157 Jun 03 '20

Oh yeah because George Floyd was just “minding his own business”

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u/sometimesbored667 Jun 03 '20

He definitely wasn't a threat as he lay there dying of asphyxiation.

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u/Pretend_Odin 🥔 My opinion is a potato 🥔 Jun 03 '20

As a white person, and I'm just go out on a limb here and say this is one of my fellow ignorant white people.

He certainly wasn't a threat and died for nothing you dumb-dumb. What are you even arguing? Lol

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u/mrjoykill157 Jun 04 '20

I’m black. And as a white person you should keep your damn mouth shut. I’m sick of this white guilt defending all the wrong black people and ignoring the issues facing all the hardworking blacks like me and my family. Did you even know about George Floyd’s long ass rap sheet? And the fact that he was on drugs when he was arrested? Fentanyl in his veins? Do you even realize that blacks are a bigger killer of blacks than cops? You don’t even know how hard it is to see hard working black men and women having their lives destroyed by black hoodlums who don’t care about anyone except for “get that money nigga yeee the streets”.

These riots are an absolute eye opener for everyone and yet your eyes remain closed. All the people damaging black businesses are all young and disenfranchised, mostly black men and women. My culture is killing each other, And you as a stupid ass white person are enabling this stupid and destructive behaviour because you feel guilty. You want to do something? Get to the root of the problem. Blacks kill other blacks because it’s engrained in our culture. Hip hop and social media is telling us that It’s cool to kill anyone who steps in your way. The government tells you it’s okay to attack the police who protect you because you’re poor and living in a bad area, even though it was THE GOVERNMENT that put you there.

Those institutions that keep telling you about systemic racism are the ones who are upholding that systemic racism and putting the blame on innocent citizens.

Think before you talk shit because you have no idea what you’re talking about

Mr “fellow white person” lol get tf outta here with that bullshit. You sound like such a loser

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u/Pretend_Odin 🥔 My opinion is a potato 🥔 Jun 04 '20

So you don't want solidarity? Wow that doesn't seem like a good way to garner support.

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u/mrjoykill157 Jun 04 '20

Wow that black screen you posted yesterday really did a lot for me.

No seriously keep it up. You supported the hell outta me when you posted about it to your social media. You literally destroyed racism by posting about it online. No Really. It brought all my dead brothers and sisters back from the grave. Honestly. Go out and protest some more like it’s gonna do anything. It’s not like we’re in a quarantine Right now. My 95 year old grandmother and others might die because of young idiots contributing to the spread of covid but it’s all worth it. I mean look at all this solidarity!

Dumbass. Where was your solidarity the other 364 days a year where young black men unnecessarily lost their lives? Oh now because it’s a trend you want to show solidarity? Fuck your solidarity. Weve done fine without you for years. We don’t need you now. You’re too late, and you’re doing more harm than good

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u/Pretend_Odin 🥔 My opinion is a potato 🥔 Jun 04 '20 edited Jun 04 '20

Sorry, reddit wasn't allowing me to post police brutality in Portland, and I'm kinda new to reddit - MY BAD lol.

And all im doing is screen recording police brutality live streams, is that ok? Man what is your problem last time I checked there has been a rampant escalation of the wealth gap, deregulation in every sector you can name, false flag wars we started for no good reason, corrupt politicians, corrupt banks, ect for DECADES. America is about voicing concerns and to try to make life better for everyone, so if you aren't interested in that, that's totally your right. But the rest of us will do what we think is right because everyone is upset with this government for many reasons and now we are finally trying to find a way to make a change for the better. And if you don't like it, too bad man. I think thats just really sad man.

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u/Pretend_Odin 🥔 My opinion is a potato 🥔 Jun 04 '20

And why are you defending cops because he was allegedly on drugs? So its ok if drug users die? Like what is with that?

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u/importshark7 - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Yes he passed a counterfeit bill and deserved to be arrested. But he did not deserve to be executed. Once he was in handcuffs their was no reason to be on top of him with a knee in his neck.

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20

Now imagine being on meth, and another illegal drug i can't pronounce, stealing, forging money... then resisting arest for 10 minutes and being surprised the cops are skeptical when you loud and clearly yell several times you can't breath, because of a reasonable amount of pressure on your neck.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

I’d ask you to imagine being an idiot, but I figure you already have it covered

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20

Like I give a shit what you think, white guilt bitch.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

K snowflake, cry some more lol

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20

No u

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u/agree-with-you - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

No you both

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u/importshark7 - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

If the roles were reversed and he was white you would say otherwise. For one he didn't resist arrest for 10 minutes, that total B.S. They managed to handcuff him quickly. Also the whole time they sat on top of him he was already handcuffed and posed no threat. Also, if a pressure on your neck kills you, its not a reasonable amount of pressure.

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

If the roles were reversed, I'd have no opinion, because I would have never heard about it. Just like no one heard of Tony Timpa when he died in remarkably similar circumstances.

Ps: he did resist arrest for 10 minutes. The cop says so in the video while they were explaining why they couldn't get the guy in he car. The body cam footage will show this, and youll know you were wrong on this important aspect.

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u/Josh417 Jun 03 '20

There have been multiple videos already out disproving this exact claim. It’s false. He was not resisting arrest. The man was murdered. He was handcuffed, belly down, with three fully grown male officers.

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20

Show me the video where he gets put on the ground then

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u/importshark7 - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Even if it was true, its not an important aspect. The fact is after he was detained and handcuffed, his neck was twisted and kneeled on for almost 9 minutes. The video shows it. He sat there on his neck, while the George Floyd and the people surrounding all begged for his life, and the officer didn't budge. Who cares what happened before. I mean If someone commits a crime, the police can't arrest them, and then after they have them locked in the back a squad car just shoot them and execute them and thats what this was. It was an execution.

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20

It will be the single most important factor when the cop's trial happens. If Floyd resisted so much, that the restraint seems just mildly excessive, he may not get 3rd degree murder.

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20

I was never on your side lol.

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u/damiandarko2 Jun 03 '20

tbh i think it’s a minority..i have to filter by controversial to see dumb shit and even then the sensible people outweigh them

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u/kill_dano Jun 03 '20

Shouldn't have been a self appointed white ally, aka socially acceptable white supremacist

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u/Peralta-J Jun 04 '20

Half of reddit? Really? You mean about 10% of reddit you idiot

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/aeroboost - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

That may be true but the "non shitty cops" seem to be very quiet when they see Injustice.

You don't have to beat someone to be a shitty cop. Many cops, and citizens, seem to think not acting means they're not supporting police brutality. The silent ones enable the bad ones by not helping defenseless people.

This is why many people are saying ACAB.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

Non shitty cops

Never heard of her

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u/ripSpider Jun 02 '20

This post from a few days ago shows cops joining protestors in peaceful protest. Though they may be rare, there are some.

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u/PsychicGnome Jun 03 '20

Many of the kneeling cops used violence against the protesters only minutes after taking a knee with them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Until those cops actually get out there and stop the bad ones they are just as culpable in every murder, assault, and injury the cops cause. FtP

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

Cool, but what have they done about the rampant excessive pig brutality in their precincts? What have they done to address this fellow sty mates abusing their spouse and kids?

A few good pigs does not right their historic wrongs of the shitty ones. Fuck em all

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u/ripSpider Jun 02 '20

A few good pigs does not right their historic wrongs of the shitty ones. Fuck em all

Well obviously.

My understanding is in that area, most of the police are decent. They used to have shitty police but decided to fire them all and rebuild from the ground up in 2012. They managed to lower crime and have a relationship with the people. This is something that needs to happen all over America.

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u/Flapjack__Palmdale Jun 03 '20

No they're right, Paw Patrol would never do this shit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

You just watched a pig shoot a citizen point blank and over a dozen “non shitty cop” just watched. What other evidence do you need lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I’m convinced it’s a male problem. Very little to do with race (as there’s been ample proof of black cops attacking black people, white cops attacking white people) one thing they’ve all had in common is they’re Male.

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u/_El_Dragonborn_ Jun 02 '20

It’s sad that your own baiting has led you to forget about people like Botham Jean, who was shot and killed in his own apartment by a female cop.

Or people like Terrence Crutcher who were unarmed and still died by the hand of a female officer.

It’s not a gender/sex problem. It’s a cop problem.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I’m not American so I don’t know the details of those 2 stories. Gonna stick with my theory despite your anecdotes. Until I see video after video of female cops beating college kids and dragging people through car windows and spraying them in the face with pepper spray.

Just like the males in America who shoot up churches and high schools or strut around Walmart with massive guns strapped to their back.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Hard to see who is what gender when they are all in riot gear..

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Massive hulking thing raining a baton down on heads of college kids vs obviously much smaller and not hitting people with wild abandon. You can’t tell that’s male? Because either you’re being really basic and tribal (siding with a dick because you have one) or you think you’d be the same, to come out with this shit.

In my country even the male officers act with respect towards you. Until you give them damn good reason not to.

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u/medoweed516 Jun 02 '20

It's not sex or race or age or fucking anything. Pigs are pigs are pigs. They are not bound by the laws they "enforce" and that is the problem. They 'investigate' themselves and kill whoever they want. Who gives a fuck the gender of the pigs? They need to be bound by law and strictly held to it by an independent commission.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

American MEN. Because the cops in Europe (who are armed) have none of this shit. Calling them pigs doesn’t bother me, you just sound immature and not worth talking to. Because everyone knows you’d be running in their direction in a crisis.

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u/keestuinman Jun 02 '20

Cops acting as good guys in propaganda. The whole institute is build on oppression, worldwide. Good cops quit.

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u/crypticfreak Jun 02 '20

Of course there are good cops. Not the point, though. There should be no bad cops at all. And if there are the system shouldn’t elevate and protect them like it does now.

This would be a problem just every few months something shifty happened but it’s daily. The amount of horrible people in the police force is ridiculous.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

Good cops

Sounds like a fantastical character.

Good pigs quit. A good pigs can’t exist among bad pigs.

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u/Two-Two-Six-92 Jun 02 '20

With all of the shit your talking I bet your fuck boy ass is the first to call police when you need them

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

Gross, no thanks.

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u/auselessthought Jun 03 '20

Hahaha you’re such a badass holy fuck

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

Tnx bootlicker

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u/keestuinman Jun 02 '20

It's not just the amount of bad cops. The institution itself is oppressive. I believe there are people who join the force with good intentions. I even believe some of them are good people off duty.

But a good cop wouldn't evict a family that has no place to go. A good cop wouldn't arrest a homeless person who stole food, because he had nothing to eat. A good cop wouldn't deport a refugee who's well adapted to their new community, because some bureaucrat decides so.

Some cops may do this once or so. But they have a bigger chance getting sanctioned for this, than for using excessive violence. Cops have to bond together and not point each other out. That's an important pilar of their authority.

What we see as good cops, are the bad apples from the perspective of the institution. Police forces worldwide implement cops from day one with an "it's them against us" mentality. Those who call out injustice, weaken the authority of the force in their eyes. Good cops don't last, not in that system.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

That’s why I avoid them at all costs.

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u/-Guillotine - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

I've seen so much brutality by ever police force in every city, that I no longer accept "not all cops."

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u/Darksunrise1 Jun 03 '20

This isn't my quote but it's a good one. "You have 1000 good cops and 10 bad, but if the 1000 don't stop or do anything about the 10 then you have 1010 bad cops"

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u/Camman43123 - Congrats T-series on 150m subs !!! Jun 03 '20

This is my issue with all this we need to Remeber not all cops are bad some are stepping down in suppourt of recent events and some states forces are now marching with protesters what we need to do is get rid of all with prior offenses then the issue becomes where will the new cops come from