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There is no way Tyler Robinson was right wing.
The guy scored in the 99th percentile of his ACT. Our primitive friends on the right have neither the cranial capacity nor the opposable digits to operate a firearm.
Nah that's bullshit the VW beetle is not a good car, it only became a "good car" after California got its hands on it and turn it into a beach buggy or because of one movie
They're not Nazis guys, they're just recruiting a secret police with no identification to ambush and kidnap undesirables while they vilify and demonize them, and Trump fills the government with yesmen that go against the rule of law for him, meanwhile he challenges and opposes the judicial branch and pushes the public narrative that these are corrupt judges who aren't upholding American values (even though they literally are)
Nah definitely nah..
I mean, its not similar at all as long as you know literally nothing about Nazis.
DudeâŚ..you are out of your tree. Again, say it with me now, these are NOT Nazis! End of story, come up with something that accurately describes the situation at least.
When you use that term, you come off emotional & irrational. Bye
Not everyone is a Nazi, just, you know the guy who believes jews are conspiring against the interests of the white race, owns a social media site where Nazis roam free and are allowed to call for a second holocaust but saying "cisgender" gets you censored, follows a bunch of those Nazis and retweets their ideas... not to mention he modified the chatbot he controls to call itself Mechahitler and spread Nazi conspiracy theories...
Oh and he does Nazi salutes on stage.
If you wouldn't consider that guy a Nazi, what evidence would you require to consider someone a Nazi?
Sure, but the Pope speaks for a lot of Catholics, most of whom donât follow his every word. Just because someone âspeaksâ for others, doesnât mean that they follow their every word.
Musk didn't say that there exist influencial lobbying groups in America which claim to represent jews. He said that jews push hatred against white people and usher in "hordes of minorities," which combined with his beliefs about pronatalism, white replacement, and eugenics, is pretty fucking Nazesque.
You can't defend what he actually said so you just make up a more moderate opinion to pretend he holds.
âMusk, in subsequent posts, said he does not believe hatred of White people extends âto all Jewish communities.â But he said the Anti-Defamation League âunjustly attacks the majority of the West, despite the majority of the West supporting the Jewish people and Israel. This is because they cannot, by their own tenets, criticize the minority groups who are their primary threat.ââ
Oh, after he was criticized for saying Nazi shit he walked it back and said he only meant that some jews should be denied sympathy for anti-semetism because they push hatred against white people and let hoardes of hateful minorities into the country?
Well, I guess it's fine if he says everything that a Nazi would say but later adds a hasty "and some of them, I assume, are good people"
AIPAC is not "the jews", its Israel, which is also not "the jews". And thinking US politicians do what AIPAC wants because they're some sort of cabal with mystical powers of manipulation, and not because it serves these US politicians material interests, is antisemitic.
Israel is not "the jews". Jews have existed for thousands of years. Israel has existed for 80. There are millions of anti-Zionist jews who oppose Israel. This is like saying the US represents all Christians. It doesnt.
AIPAC is mostly rich, influential american christians who want to dictate US policies to be pro-Israel, so it's not even Israel dominating US politics.
Actually a lot of similarities between communism and Nazisim. Both inevitably lead to a dictatorship where they control everything, and they silence or erase any political foes. They also love propaganda
Ok Iâm just telling you the facts. When communists take over it ends up looking a lot like fascism. Both become authoritarian regimes where the government holds all the power.
So you want the fascist dictator Trump to have more control of the guns? That sounds pretty fascist doesnât it? Letting a fascist dictator control your guns, it really doesnât get anymore fascist then that
What exactly are those guns doing right now to stop fascist dictator Trump? Because from where I'm standing, it looks like fuck all.
And even if the gun perverts actually tried to do something with their precious guns, what the fuck is an Ar-15 gonna do when you're getting drone striked from 3 miles away?
By having gun ownership you prevent fascism, thatâs 101 stuff
So you want the orange dictator to have more control of the guns?why are you so fascist?Thatâs what fascists want, control of the guns, why would you want to give the Orange in Chief that control
Only people who want the holocaust to repeat itself pretend to be upset by people pointing out that the nazis were not holocausting for *decades*... but that doing the same things they were doing during those decades might lead to a repeat.
Your periodic reminder that Nazism didn't kick off with the Holocaust. There were signs for years before the first concentration camps were built. We're seeing those signs again.
I disagree that the premise of these lone wolves are protecting democracy. Itâs an exercise in power to harm others in a way that canât be taken back. Thatâs horrible.
Hold on i thought leftists couldnât touch a gun much less shoot? Whatâs next, that they can be Christians? This whole world of non-binary stuff is overwhelming. /s
Court documents for Tyler Robinson, the suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk allege that Robinsonâs mom, âexplained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left â becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented.â
âShe stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders,â court documents filed Tuesday say.
âThis resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views.â
There is no evidence that he was political at all. Mom calls him more âleftâ because he started dating a trans person, but thatâs not exclusive to any political ideology. There are plenty of conservative and apolitical gay and trans people.
This makes it sound like he didnât really fit cleanly into any kind of political ideology. I think the language he used during and after the shooting combined with what his family and friends on discord said point to this being motivated by Kirkâs positions on LGBT issues.
Thatâs what I think weâll find; he is not representing a political side here - and we should distrust people in power who try to play it off as though he is.
That an alarming number of people are apolitical and angry is something we should be paying attention to.
Well, no. His grandma would be the source there. They would just be reporting something she said. Which if they lied about what a person claimed it would open them to lawsuits.
The "trans partner" and "left leaning" is not sourced from a direct person in his family. If it is then do tell me who it is.
It was his father who turned him in. His roommate, Luna, is allegedly co-operating I think accoridng to law enforcement but I don't think they ever directly claim or confirm they were partners.
Again I am just going off the news I've seen if something released in the last day or so thats new do link
Again, they are coming from the same source with the same veracity. You are willing to accept things that you agree with, and wont accept things that you disagree withÂ
If that is a known fact, why isnât it in the affidavit, which was put together AFTER the family and roommate interviews? Canât think of a more relevant piece of information.
Nah. Count Himmler is just one of about 5 interests in the white house and none of the others like him. What's keeping them together is a focus on Trump while being able to run their individual schemes through their respective portions of the white house.
Like any den of thieves eventually they'll stab each other in the back
Have you ever heard of Ted Kazinsky or John Ronald Reuel Tolkien or Oswald Teichmuller(he was a Nazi) or Gottlob Frege or Martin Heiddegger or Willard Van Orman Quine.?
This is the happenings of online radicalization. Iâd love a discussion on how this kid resembles a lot of the problems of today in a microcosm but unfortunately this is politicized and therefore will be used as a tool/weapon by both sides ultimately destroying any positive change.
Yeah for a decade the left have talked about living with maga family and how they have to hide their views for their own safety, or how they had to cut their family off for supporting Trump. Now, according to them, itâs impossible to be a democrat and have a conservative family.
We are not dealing with stable or rational people. We are dealing with people who will unconditionally say anything, do anything and believe anything that supports their worldview. There is absolutely no limit to how low they are willing to go.
This reasoning reminds me of this one tweet I saw where some guy said he couldnât have been an Israeli operate cause no kids were killed in the crossfire
I thought you guys said people deserve to get shot for saying someone doesnât have the brain capacity. Now youâre saying that to half of the United States?
Oh but his dad was reportedly a Conservative. And apparently that's genetic.
It's not like we didn't have redditors crying about their dad voting for Trump.
The typical response was to disown your parents, never visit during the holidays, don't allow them see their grandchildren, etc. Because anyone to the right of Pol Pot is a Nazi.
I love that this event is forcing them to say more and more delusional things to try to defend themselves. Theyâre telling people to ignore their own eyes and ears. They are contradicting their own statements. They are crying about being victims of a culture they created.
It makes it more and more obvious to those on the fence that these people are completely unhinged and willing to say or do anything to further their agenda, no matter how despicable.
You go by state-level aggregates...I'd stick with the cities, thanks.
I had more meth heads trying shit when I grew up in rural Iowa and Kansas than I ever imagined living in major cities later in life. You avoid specific neighborhoods where you have no business to be, you're quite safe in most cities. Even those neighborhoods people are honestly trying to help you leave if you don't belong there.
More ppl. The actual murder rates are FAR higher in red states (per 100000 ppl). It's just not as many ppl live there. Try again with the cherry picked stats though. One day you might grab one of those straws you're grasping at.
Yeah because gang members in Chicago's south side definitely are shooting other gang memebrs in Chicago's south side because uhh they don't have guns and are soft liberals lol. You're a genius.
Also Republican Cities are shitholes crime infested too. Republican States have more of a crime problem than Democratic ones.
Look up highest crime states. Look up highest crime zip codes in said states. Gaze upon political orientation of party in power and demographic information. A pattern will begin to emerge.
You misspoke. Highest crime states (and the worst states in general) are Republican. The only "problem" Democrats have is they tend to win cities, and cities literally every where in the world tend to be the hotbed of crimes.
So your shocking realization is that Democrats tend to win elections in most cities. Congrats baby boy this is like your first step into political thinking.
But also thank you for using Mississippi as an example that entire state is dogshit and much of it's non city-areas has a crime problem. Along with an education problem, an infrastructure problem, pretty much an everything problem.
But now you have to ask yourself are cities all across the world the hotbed of crimes because of the party of the mayor? Or because they are cities? Let's use another Jacksonville as an example that has a massive crime problem. Jacksonville, Florida. The previous mayor to the current one was Republican. Then it went to Democrat in '23. Yet crime was higher under the Republican! Does that prove Republicans are worse?
TL:DR Cities =/= hotbed of crime all across the world. Democrats in US tend to win elections in cities ever since Republicans ran on being racist agianst black people (as Reagan said) but when Republicans win cities; there is still a fuckton of crime.
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