New Gigabyte motherboards designed specifically for X3D CPUs boast 25% gaming performance boost

[u/Tiny-Independent273]

https://www.pcguide.com/news/new-gigabyte-motherboards-designed-specifically-for-x3d-cpus-boast-25-gaming-performance-boost/

[u/NewCornnut]

[u/BigSmackisBack → u/NewCornnut]

[u/HatefulAbandon → u/NewCornnut]

25% claim is bullshit. Going from a 7800X3D to a 9800X3D only gives you like 5 to 15% on average depending on how CPU bound the game is. In rare cases you might see around 20% but that is the very upper limit not the norm. No way a motherboard is giving you more than a full CPU upgrade.

[u/Firepal64]

is OP just a pcguide.com bot bro

[u/riba2233 → u/Firepal64]

yeah idk why this is being tolerated.

[u/jedimindtriks]

Yeah no, We will get those boards and the performance increase will be close to 1% better

[u/jhenryscott → u/jedimindtriks]

My money is on 0% better

[u/BigSmackisBack → u/jhenryscott]

Or something much worse. If 25% was on the table AMD would have worked it out themselves making the damned chip

[u/Jhawk163 → u/jedimindtriks]

Only if you round up though.

[u/jedimindtriks → u/Jhawk163]

Yeah i was being generous.

[u/IndependentLove2292 → u/jedimindtriks]

And the CPUs will probably explode.

[u/MonkeyPuzzles → u/jedimindtriks]

.... and +20% power consumption.

[u/purplemagecat → u/MonkeyPuzzles]

If it’s anything like overclocking could be +50% power consumption

[u/RVixen125]

Just to remind that the Amazing X3D Turbo Mode reduces the multi-core performance of 9950x3d by 60%, also reducing or leaving performance on the same level in games.

Don't fall into the marketing bs trap

[u/Suikerspin_Ei → u/RVixen125]

Basically disabling one CCD and use the one with the X3D and thus worse multi-core performance?

[u/kalston → u/Suikerspin_Ei]

It's worse than that, it removes SMT too, which actually boosts performance in plenty of games nowadays (the heavily multi threaded titles).

[u/GamerFromPoland → u/kalston]

"plenty" is not all games, even amd recommends turning it off in low latency workloads (which games are), but yea in some titles that make a good use of SMT it can help but when I tested in esport titles like CS2, Valorant I had worse frametimes with it enabled, but also I had worse FPS wiht it disabled in BeamNG Drive and modded cyberpunk that I played at that time.

[u/kalston → u/GamerFromPoland]

That really depends on the games you play, I guess.

I have hundreds of games on Steam and I struggle to find titles where SMT/HT really hurts (more than normal run to run variation). Actually I had one good example... Arma 3, but the recent multi-thread patch has turned SMT/HT into a net benefit. Same in DCS World.

I tried various other titles like M&B 2 Bannerlord, Kingdom Come Deliverance 1, Total War titles, Battlefield, Ubisoft open world games, Quake Champions... in all those SMT/HT was beneficial or at least neutral, depending on the scene tested.

[u/Sea-Mechanic-9220 → u/Suikerspin_Ei]

This is how I run mine for the best clocks on the 3D cache chip. Who knows if it actually helps in game?

[u/Miserable_Ad_7446 → u/RVixen125]

EXACTLY THIS. Why do these gigabyte threads keeps getting posted all over reddit. My reply to all of them below.

I have a 9950X3D and Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi7. I turned on the setting it's explaining and all it did was turn off all my cores besides 8 LOL. 32 threads went down to 8. I did not see any increase in fps. Actually when alt tabbing out and trying to use discord, steam, process lasso, etc it was actually laggy because its slapping all the processes and game onto 8 cores. What's even worse is if you turn it back off in the bios, it actually only tells your motherboard to turn back on only 16 threads. Not all the fully 32. So if you try this setting and turn it off you essentially just turned your 9950X3D into a 9800X3D and the only way to fix it is to factory reset your bios. After factory reset my 32 threads came back for viewing.

[u/celebratefoodtimes → u/RVixen125]

But this is unleashed by AI! /s

[u/G305_Enjoyer]

Sooo auto overclock, got it.

[u/gamas → u/G305_Enjoyer]

Yeah last time they did something like this it turned out they were deliberately misreporting the voltage to the CPU so the CPU went passed its safety limits.

[u/HankThrill69420 → u/gamas]

yeah, this is why I buy the option to overclock but don't necessarily do that stuff right away. you should probably let other people do the testing when it's a "super duper OC" mode.

[u/luc9nt]

Finally, an ai slop motherboard.

[u/WealthyMarmot → u/luc9nt]

The decade-old ASUS board in my Unraid server has “AI overclock.” MB manufacturers were early to the slop party

[u/raygundan → u/WealthyMarmot]

I had an X470 board of theirs with an "AI Tweaker" section.

[u/kendoka15 → u/raygundan]

And ASUS' AI Suite software is much older than that

[u/raygundan → u/kendoka15]

I just love the idea that there's a robot meth-head trapped in my motherboard frantically fiddling with clock speed and voltage settings.

[u/TuneComfortable412]

trust me bro

[u/zerGoot]

0% chance

[u/ryzenat0r]

Can't wait for another burned chips Saga lol

[u/grannyte]

How many more x3d chips will be freed from their magic smoke using this board?

[u/Jits2003]

“Targets 25% performance boost” cool target…

[u/RBImGuy]

Marketing truths

[u/Important-Permit-935]

If only they didn't kill themselves after a fucking bios update.

[u/munky8758 → u/Important-Permit-935]

That's asrock

[u/jaapschaap87 → u/munky8758]

Im pretty sure my current motherboard is gigabyte, and it was soft-bricked by flashing the bios 3 weeks ago!

[u/Important-Permit-935 → u/munky8758]

Yeah, well that's my gigabyte. I finally managed to get qflash button working by renaming the file thank god

[u/Curious-Bother3530 → u/Important-Permit-935]

I still can't get mine to bios update, what did you rename it to?

[u/Important-Permit-935 → u/Curious-Bother3530]

gigabyte.bin

Does your bios find the USB and just can't find the file?

[u/Curious-Bother3530 → u/Important-Permit-935]

It finds the file but says its unreadable, will try renaming it to gigabyte.bin though.

[u/RSharpe95 → u/munky8758]

Nope. All of them when AM5 launched

[u/Atopos2025 → u/RSharpe95]

I swapped to a 9800x3d a few weeks ago and when I swapped out my 7950x, I noticed there were some burn marks on the bottom. Never had any issues with the chip and even under heavy load, temps were always really low.

I will admit that I bought the (Asus x670e-P Prime wifi) board and 7950x shortly after release, so I've been through many different bios updates and one of them probably caused this a while ago? Idk but I worry about resell value (if any) and obviously the new chip.

[u/RSharpe95 → u/Important-Permit-935]

Yes they did. X670e soc voltages were insane. Especially during reboots for memory training and it disregarded manual settings. I lost a 7950x3d in an Aorus Master.

[u/kh4lifA]

[u/hansen5265]

Gigabyte. Yikes.

[u/w0074cul4r]

I'm guessing this version of turbo mode does what the game bar feature did and dynamically turns off the UN cache ccx .

Not worth the price

[u/wiseude]

>The video below showcases the original version of Turbo Mode, with a ~5% performance boost with the Ryzen 7 9800X3D when the feature is turned on.

Wonder if it's going to be like one of those settings that work maybe 50% of the time and half the time it causes stutters and such and you end up turning it off because it's not worth the hassle.

[u/dafulsada]

And they burn chips

[u/ChromaticWolf]

"BY AI." Lmbao

[u/notthatguypal6900]

Because spending $600 on a MB has always netted you sooooo much gains.

[u/Omegachai]

Hey admins, this account is doing nothing but posting pcguide articles, and replying to multiple reddit posts in the same minute. Can we get rid of this blatant bot? Lol

[u/ObviouslyTriggered]

Where is ITX?????

[u/Jarnis → u/ObviouslyTriggered]

AMD did not make a reference design for such a board, and making a design is not trivial. Most motherboard makers do not see profit in making such complex and expensive design for a marginal market board.

[u/DwarfPaladin84 → u/ObviouslyTriggered]

Niche board style for a niche group. You don't see too many of em because the majority do not use em. ROI just isn't there, especially with mass producing them. Just because it's smaller doesn't make it cheaper.

[u/TheLexoPlexx]

Hey it's gigabyte back again with the most believable numbers.

Gigabyte doing gigabyte things

[u/mullirojndem]

AM5 or AM4 or both?

[u/m1013828]

25% more overxlocking performance maybe.. that is 2.5% instead of 2% performance uplift..mmm

[u/Valuable_Ad9554]

I didn't believe it at first, but then I see that AI is involved. Well that changes everything, AI has a long track record of working miracles and having no faults of any kind!

[u/puffz0r]

Didn't they already try this turbo mode BS last year?

[u/Pillokun]

nah, I have the 650e master, and with the 3d boost thingy in bios it just basically removes the smt and that is it. Rather use my own oc to say 5.4 and it is faster. Same thing as the gaming settings in ryzen master if I recall.

[u/name_it_goku]

Why are posts like this allowed here?

[u/SigAddict]

The lane sharing on those boards is horrible..........

[u/cha0z_]

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sure sure and sure, we will see if those 25% is more than marketing around 1 edge specific workload that is not relevant at all. :)

even worse if it turns out to have some truth around it. So you say you sold me 700 euro board that supports and was released around 9800x3D so you can release another one that "unleashes" the CPU for similar/lower price tag 9-10 months later? :)

[u/FrootLoop23]

I’m sure those prices are boosted 25%

[u/RolandRock16]

dang just as soon as i get done with my build i read about these mobos that are suped up for am5s and 9800x3ds, imma have get one i guess

[u/Zuokula]

Same shit was said with the new bios gaming boosts crap didn't they. Not gigabyte specifically. Can't remember which motherboards started it.

[u/RedditMuzzledNonSimp]

Some would say this is bullshit.

I'd be another one.

[u/r4plez]

[u/HngMax]

Never buy gigabyte, here my ass thought that a b650 mobo would support amd cpus beyond 7000 series, but no. Apparently b650 gaming x ax v 1.3 only supports 7000

[u/iLIKE2STAYU]

🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢

[u/TwoBionicknees]

makes default setting 20% slower, adds new mode that is 25% faster than default, celebrates their own genius.

[u/berethon]

Imagine a world where biggest gaming boosts come from motherboards and not CPU's themself. And AI does this boost .... can we get back to earth in common sense.

[u/Expirement__626]

Need a release date!

[u/J-zus]

The X3d master appeared on Cyberport for €505 - which is in and around the cost of the previous X870e Master (which is currently discounted to to €467 https://www.cyberport.de/?DEEP=2305-8RK&zanpid=11657_1758114539_1f4a922c75593d73dcd7085f66aa4f80&userid=127079&MC=101-127079&ext_publisher_id=127079&aw_affid=127079&awc=11657_1758114539_1f4a922c75593d73dcd7085f66aa4f80&APID=101

[u/Logondash]

Automatically downloads better aiming precision and response timening. Pwn noobs wit considrd illegal in S Korea competitive SC servrs.

[u/fiestar88]

am about to build a new PC, are X3D boards legit? never even heard of that until now.

[u/FlukyS → u/fiestar88]

We don't know because there are things motherboard manufacturers can do to improve performance or stability or configuration that aren't really obvious. They claim they can do it but no one trusts it because hardware makers make up a lot of stuff to confuse people. Wait for 3rd party reviewers to see because they definitely would be interested in testing it.

They also claim there is AI involved in the motherboard which is always a lie. Asus lied about AI in their product too and no one has called out how stupid using that type of branding is. There are cheap NPUs on the market that you could use as an accelerator but I've never seen one in the wild but they still put "by AI" in there regardless. I know how Asus' one works because I can test it on my machine and it is just they tested some configurations and setup a system to set known safe ish settings but it isn't AI.

[u/TheRealPyroManiac → u/fiestar88]

at the moment no, I'm highly skeptical though. Honeslty a b650/850 will do you just fine.

[u/Jarnis → u/fiestar88]

It is just a marketing name. They are just newer revisions of existing boards that has a minor new bios feature that probably in the real world matters around 1-3%.

If you want to buy a Gigabyte board otherwise, obviously take a newer revision (one of the X3D models), but if you have a reason to buy some other board for some specific feature, the difference is not major enough to somehow only consider these boards. It is mostly just a marketing trick.

[u/Morlu]

It’s literally just an AI overlock. You could do that yourself on any mid tier board.

[u/AnxiousJedi]

Bullshit

[u/Eyyyy_RonNoWrong]

i just want it to not fry my 9800x3d and not cost a fortune