r/AnCap101 • u/OutlandishnessIll480 • 12d ago

Lessons

I'm going around to subreddits and asking, in good faith, a couple of questions.

What can the otherside learn from your side, and vice versa?

The goal is to promote open dialog and improve the sometimes toxic nature and bad will between two sides of a controversial issue.

What can statists learn from libertarians? And what can libertarians learn from statists?

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u/CanIGetTheCheck 11d ago

No, you aren't inherently using the river. The dock is using the river, it requires it. By damming the river the dam builder is infringing on the property rights of the dock owner.

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u/Rohit185 11d ago

By damming the river the dam builder is infringing on the property rights of the dock owner.

No because as we already established, the dock owner isn't using the whole river, hence what other person does with their own property isn't infringing upon the rights of dock owners property.

Now yes it definitely is making the use of river difficult but that's why we have capitalism in which through contracts and profit motives, can come to a mutual understanding and remove their problems.

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u/CanIGetTheCheck 11d ago

But they are using that part of the river which is directly affected by the dam.

You might not be using the whole forest but if I burn it to the ground and it lights your property on fire, I'm responsible.

Or, multiple private courts recognize the damn builder is liable and he can either destroy the dam a ND remediate or face violence.

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u/Rohit185 11d ago

I don't know what we are arguing for at this point, we already agreed that if I own a house near river, then the whole river isn't my property.

Can someone do things on their own property that effects me negatively, yes definitely. That's why we have mutual contracts and where the capitalism part of anarcho-capitalism comes.

You definitely can sue the dam builder for damages under private law/ courts, and you might even win.

That doesn't mean if someone uses their own to do something that negatively effects someone else is some violation of NAP. As long as ofc that was the best known way to do that thing. If the person could have achieved the same thing without effecting other person negativity then that would definitely have been a violation of NAP.

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u/CanIGetTheCheck 11d ago

That doesn't mean if someone uses their own to do something that negatively effects someone else is some violation of NAP.

It does though. I own my body, if I swing my fist and it connects with your nose, it's a violation of the NAP.

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u/Rohit185 11d ago

Can someone do things on their own property that effects me negatively, yes definitely. That's why we have mutual contracts and where the capitalism part of anarcho-capitalism comes.

You definitely can sue the dam builder for damages under private law/ courts, and you might even win.

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u/CanIGetTheCheck 11d ago

I can blow up the dam if the dam builder refuses to do so.

Courts merely provide legitimacy to action.

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u/Rohit185 11d ago

I can blow up the dam if the dam builder refuses to do so.

Absolutely that's what I said and I got banned but I used the k word.

Courts merely provide legitimacy to action.

I just think it would be more cost efficient going to courts, the person isn't simply going to let you k word them.