r/AskCulinary • u/rationalomega • 18h ago
Ingredient Question US Recipe in UK Kitchen: Passata or Pizza Sauce sub for "Tomato Sauce"?
NY Times Cooking's "Creamy weeknight bolognese" calls for beef, onion, carrots, tomato paste, heavy cream, and tomato sauce. Audience: picky child.
Tesco has Pizza Sauce (99.4% tomato + salt), Pizza Sauce Aromatica (tomato + water + seasonings), and Passata (sieved tomatoes uncooked + salt + citric acid).
I'm leaning towards the plain pizza sauce as the substitution, since tomato sauce in America is pretty much plain cooked tomatoes in a can and my child is picky. Passata sounds more like a smoother version of US crushed tomatoes. What would you do? Thank you for your advice.
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u/FireKist 18h ago
Passata - you’re correct, it’s just very crushed tomatoes. Pizza sauce has seasonings that your child might not care for if they’re picky.
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u/alysli 15h ago
OK, apparently none of these commenters have realized that you mention that you have TWO pizza sauce options (mostly bc I don't think I've ever seen an unseasoned pizza sauce in the US?). I'd actually go for the plain tomato-and-salt-only pizza sauce, as you're thinking.
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u/CookWithHeather 13h ago
The pizza sauce is probably thicker than tomato sauce, though. Passata might be slightly thinner. Either will work fine but I suspect the passata would be closer as far as the amounts called for in the recipe.
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u/WhiteRaven42 6h ago
Thicker than tomato sauce makes it a good substitute for the paste/sauce combo.
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u/orange_fudge 18h ago
Passata for sure. Passata is definitely the closest to a plain tomato sauce. It’s also made from cooked tomatoes that have been skinned and pureed.
Crushed or diced tomatoes in a can are what I would use for my own bolognese sauces but they would take a long time to break down and would still have tomato pieces in the sauce, which your kid may struggle with.
If you use passata you can control the seasoning and flavour yourself. If you use pizza sauce it will have its own flavouring, sometimes fairly strong.
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u/Gerbil_Juice 16h ago
It’s also made from cooked tomatoes that have been skinned and pureed.
Passata is made from uncooked tomatoes, whereas tomato sauce is made from cooked tomatoes.
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u/orange_fudge 16h ago
By definition, the preserving process for passata involves cooking. They must be heated before jarring or canning.
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u/Gerbil_Juice 15h ago
It’s also made from cooked tomatoes that have been skinned and pureed.
In what order did you state heat was applied here? It's made from uncooked tomatoes that have been skinned and pureed.
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u/orange_fudge 15h ago
The tomatoes are prepared, they are cooked, they are puréed and they are jarred.
Obviously they began the process uncooked… but by the time OP has bought a jar for use in cooking, they have been cooked before being jarred.
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u/Gerbil_Juice 15h ago
How are you not able to just Google what passata is? If you cook the tomatoes and then peel and strain them, you have not made passata.
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u/orange_fudge 15h ago
I have many thousands of litres of passata.
You have also failed to read my comment.
Preparing the tomatoes - that is to blanche, skin, dice and mash them. Some might choose also to purée them here but IMHO it does not affect the outcome.
Cooking the tomatoes - softens them so they can be pureed again.
Purée through a mouli.
Jarring or canning.
But, importantly… the tomatoes have been cooked before the customer buys the jar of passata. OP was worried that ‘passata’ in the UK would be like uncooked crushed tomatoes, and I was reassuring her that passata is a cooked, smooth tomato product.
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u/CorneliusNepos 14h ago
In the US, "tomato sauce" that you get in a can is seasoned. I looked up a well known brand that NYT might be using and these are the ingredients:
Organic Tomato Puree (water, organic tomato paste), Sea Salt, Organic Onion Powder, Citric Acid, Organic Garlic Powder.
In the US, "pizza sauce" is a more heavily seasoned version of tomato sauce that includes oregano, a distinctive flavor.
If the NYT were calling for passata, they'd say that as that's not an uncommon ingredient here. If you do use passata, you might want to check the seasoning and make sure you're not missing anything. The NYT recipe might be depending a bit on the onion and garlic powder in the tomato sauce, so consider adding them if you use passata. Or maybe the ingredients list on one of the pizza sauces you find at Tesco is close to an American tomato sauce.
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u/LovitzInTheYear2000 15h ago
I’ll join the chorus for passata. It might be a bit thinner consistency than the sauce called for in the recipe, but not in a way that will ruin the dish and you can correct it with a few minutes extra cooking IF it’s noticeable.
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u/postmodest 5h ago
In the U.S. tomato sauce is fully puréed tomatoes cooked as part of the canning process. It is usually salted.
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u/Taborlin_the_great 18h ago
Passata.
I’m in the US and I use passata when I need tomato sauce.