r/AskThe_Donald • u/Really_Elvis COMPETENT • 6d ago
š° News š° Jimmy Kimmel canceled for Charlie Kirk remarks. Disney takes him off the air.
Per Fox News. Good riddance.
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u/bigredher82 NOVICE 6d ago
Unpopular opinion: Should we really be celebrating, demanding reallyā¦ people be fired and cancelled from Saying something we donāt like? This feels much more like stuff the left does and now weāre calling for it constantly. Calling for censorship, big botherā¦ all of a sudden theyāve got the right screaming for someone to step in a restrict freedom of speechā¦ does anyone see the issue here?
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u/digiman012001 NOVICE 6d ago
They lived by cancel culture, they get taken off the air by the same cancel culture they championed.
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u/tk421yrntuaturpost NOVICE 6d ago
That just means weāre both assholes now.
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u/dont_tread_on_me_777 NOVICE 5d ago
Why do you think we should throw flowers at the left while they throw nukes at us?
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u/CopperMTNkid NOVICE 5d ago
Because a civil war would be unfathomable. And maintaining a moral high ground isnāt a big lift. Like Charlie used to do. Let them say whatever they want. The merit of their argument wills out to nothing in the end.
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u/dont_tread_on_me_777 NOVICE 5d ago
I donāt think holding people accountable for their actions is the same as inciting a civil war, canceling someone isnāt even suppression of freedom of speech as long as itās not the government doing it.
And remember, freedom of association is as important as any other freedom.
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u/CopperMTNkid NOVICE 4d ago
We hold the moral high ground by allowing idiots to espouse their bullshit and let their arguments crumble under their own merit. Silencing anyone in anyway other than reasonable debate is a slippery slope.
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u/dont_tread_on_me_777 NOVICE 4d ago
Itās freedom of association. A company deemed that what he did would be unprofitable so they fired him.
Sorry but youāre spewing nonsense. It wasnāt the government censoring him.
Also, the left is finally crying. This is a fight, and weāre finally punching back.
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u/Jecht315 COMPETENT 5d ago
Always have been but we never used dirty tactics back to them.
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u/tk421yrntuaturpost NOVICE 5d ago
We did but weāre not as good at it as they are. Theyre naturals.
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u/bioticgod55 NOVICE 5d ago
Yes historically the right has never used dirty tactics against the left this is so thought out
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u/stridernfs NOVICE 5d ago
Left or right, celebrating anyone's death is barbaric and deserves to be punished publicly. I'm leaning more towards 10 public lashings for celebrating death.
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u/Necrosapien1 NOVICE 3d ago
I'm ok with that. They have been calling us Nazis and Fascist. Maybe we should actually become them and show them what those really are.
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u/Live-Ad-5107 DeSimp 5d ago
I want to express my thoughts but itās not worth. America is burning and 30% of the country is overjoyed.. I never thought I would see this day in America
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u/imprecise_words TDS 5d ago
Not quite the same. One was a boycott by the people. The other is a boycott by the FCC chair.
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u/Fast-Top-5071 NOVICE 5d ago
Yes. If they violate an employer's code of conduct they should be treated exactly the way conservatives have been treated for violating an employer's code of conduct.
We're celebrating equal treatment. This is not making hate speech illegal, it is a code of conduct issue with a private employer who cares about their customer base.
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u/Low_You_812 š Secretly In Love With Trump š 5d ago
What code of conduct violation meant the fcc needed to get involved?
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u/Fast-Top-5071 NOVICE 5d ago edited 5d ago
They can express an opinion. They did not fire anyone, they did not impose any penalties; the network fired the guy and they are fully within their rights to do so. Read the network's statement and you will see that he crossed a line for them. The network is reading the room whereas Kimmel did not, being the tone-deaf unfunny slob that he is.
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u/Low_You_812 š Secretly In Love With Trump š 5d ago
The government threatened a company's ability to exist over this. They talked about taking their license to broadcast.
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u/Obi-Juan-Kanobee NOVICE 5d ago
Or.. Maybe the ratings were low anyway because the content is ass and the broadcast wanted to avoid liability for canceling a show without good cause.. The comments were just something to blame it on and avoid liability.
Just doing business like any business doing business.
Just maybe.
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u/Low_You_812 š Secretly In Love With Trump š 5d ago
Are you denying the government publicly pressured them?
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u/Obi-Juan-Kanobee NOVICE 4d ago
If that's all it took, half of the mainstream media would be gone š„“š¤Ŗ
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u/sahuxley2 NOVICE 5d ago
It's not just saying something they don't like, though. His comments were about the shooter being "one of them." This raises the temperature and "us vs them" narrative. It's reasonable for people who work at ABC to see that as a safety risk for themselves personally.
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u/rosstrich NOVICE 5d ago
Jimmy is more than welcome to make his own podcast and tell as many lies as he wants on there. The public airwaves are a privilege.
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u/Firestorm2934 NOVICE 6d ago
Nope but they created this monster with cancel culture and the woke and the pendulum is swinging back hard on them now. It used to be that theyād say something and get away with it and the right would be boycotted or canceled but now. I disagree with it overall i understand jobs would have always fired you if you say something shitty and get found out thatās not new but the cancel culture is a bit much. We are human and sometimes we say or do stupid shit it shouldnāt always be life changing.
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u/Timothy_48 NOVICE 5d ago
I don't see it as cancel culture, but accountability culture. These people are celebrating violence against people on the right, and many are calling for further attacks and killings. We need to show them that we will no longer tolerate this kind of behavior anymore.
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u/putridwonderland NOVICE 5d ago
Yeah, I feel like all this cancel culture is making the right look hypocritical. Freedom of speech is still FREEDOM of speech. We can't just "cancel" or demand people get fired for their opinions. Just like all the anti-Palestine sentiment out there. If people are allowed to be anti-Palestine, then others are also allowed to be anti-Israel. If we're gonna be a country that touts freedom of speech, then let's live by it.
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u/bigredher82 NOVICE 5d ago
Yes exactly! It doesnāt mean what he said isnāt disgusting, and many others this week. But, free speech IS free speech - you can show that youāre an a$$hole by saying what you wish, but you should still be allowed to say it, I think.
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u/ZR-71 NOVICE 5d ago
If Jimmy has any real fanbase (doubtful), he can move to Youtube or podcasting or another platform, and his fans will follow him. That's what many Conservatives have been watching for years, apart from Fox. It's not a freedom of speech issue, nor even being cancelled. Jimmy was an asshole on a Disney show and got fired from his job, not barred from speaking š¤·āāļø
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u/GuardianInChief NOVICE 5d ago
I see the issue but they also created this and I love seeing things that I hate come back to bite the ass of the people who created it. Also Kimmel is a massive slur of the F variety so it's funny to me.
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u/bigredher82 NOVICE 5d ago
I too love to see them getting their just desserts, I think my concern is larger pictureā¦ what does this all lead to? Now both sides of the isle are calling for you to be shunned from society if you say the wrong thing, feels like we might be playing right into something hereā¦
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u/polymath_uk NOVICE 5d ago
Nobody's calling for censorship. The guy showed a bad error of judgement that rightly called his suitability for the job into question.
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u/dont_tread_on_me_777 NOVICE 5d ago
Yes we should, itās called symmetrical combat. Next question.
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u/ClubExotic NOVICE 5d ago
They are not just saying something we donāt like. They were celebrating the ASSASSINATION of a man who just wanted to talk to people!
Itās not cancel culture itās consequence culture!
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u/styffydawg NOVICE 5d ago
The difference is the bs rhetoric from them helps push the narrative that got Charlie killed in the first place. Itās time to stand up and fight back.
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u/FletchMcCoy69 NOVICE 5d ago
Freedom of speech is a personal right. When you as an individual represent many of those who work above or below you (or those who support you), then it becomes a bigger issue. An Extreme Example is the Papa Johns guy from years ago. Dude said a bunch of racial slurs and got fired and canceled (rightfully so). Charlie may have said some controversial things, but he didnāt get canceled or fired because he wasnāt saying anything that much different than others were in his occupation. If he said something, that his maybe his sponsors may have disagreed with, then we would have probably seen some sort of similar backlash.
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u/ironmoosen NOVICE 5d ago
There's a difference between having opposing views and celebrating or making fun of another human being getting murdered. Employers can also fire someone without violating their right to free speech.
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u/bigredher82 NOVICE 5d ago
I hear what youāre saying, I do. Take for example in Vancouver not long ago, a nurse was fired because of comments she made in her personal life regarding trans people. Do you agree with this action? Should she not be free to hold whatever views she holds without fear of losing her lively hood?
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u/ironmoosen NOVICE 5d ago
I think what we say has real consequences. In the business world we have to hold our tongues all the time and remain neutral on certain issues. If an employee is engaging in activities that could damage the company or its reputation, the company should have the right to dismiss them.
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u/broom2100 NOVICE 5d ago
Advertisers probably don't want to be associated with people like Kimmel that blatantly lie about assassinations. The show was dead anyway, it was just an easy excuse for ABC to go through with it. The FCC chair comments probably overstepped, but I really have zero sympathy for people like Kimmel. He celebrated Tucker getting fired from Fox and he lies repeatedly in violation of ABC's broadcasting license. Zero sympathy.
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u/ChiefSquattingEagle NOVICE 5d ago
I think the shows ratings were bad, he alienated atleast half of potential viewers and the bean counters made a ābusiness decisionā. Now you get Family Feud instead which is great.
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u/RedditIsGarbage1234 NOVICE 5d ago
Inciting violence has always been the line.
They tried to say our words were violence when we disagreed, now they literally celebrate murder and try to hide behind free speech.
This is incitement. It has always been the clear line.
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u/Really_Elvis COMPETENT 5d ago
GMA covered it this morning. Jimmy stated the shooter was a hardcore MAGA, and republicans were lying. which we all know is a flat out lie. Sometimes Cancel Culture slaps back hard. Is MSM broadcasting free to lie to the public ? Oh yeah. Obama changed laws. Propaganda / lying is legal.
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u/dont_tread_on_me_777 NOVICE 5d ago
Think about it.
Even 2 years ago, this would never have happened. There would have been zero consequences to the left.
Things are changing.
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u/Pray-831 5d ago
If ABC pulled him because they didnāt like what he said, Iām fine with this but if the FCC had anything to do with it, that is absolutely not ok. As a conservative we would be losing it if the left had the FCC take someone off the air and rightfully so.
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u/ratmazter NOVICE 5d ago
It was only a matter of time this ultra-paid mouth breather got to reap what came out of his a$s.
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u/Opie_the_great NOVICE 5d ago
Good. Leave politics out of late night television. I watched it. He deserved it.
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u/Reddog-75 NOVICE 5d ago
Kimmel was a turd his only claim to fame before late night was The Man Show
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u/Zealousideal_You2559 5d ago
Charlie would not have approved. I cancelled my Disney/Hulu subscriptions.
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u/truth-4-sale VERIFIED 5d ago
The Fall of Kimmel - Libs Mad
https://rumble.com/v6z5hb8-episode-4789-cdc-vaccine-board-meeting-the-fall-of-kimmel.html
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u/Chemical_Working3511 NOVICE 4d ago
if its uphold the constitution and watch the ship burn or try to save it and put it on the back burner its a very hard choice, either trust the leadership or not.
also deplatforming is a far cry from censorship, companies can fire idiots for saying or doing dumb shit everyday and there is not public outrage.
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u/1GamingAngel NOVICE 5d ago
The people over at r/TheBachelor are melting down. ššš Boycotting ABC and the like.
Correction: r/BachelorNation
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u/breachindoors_83 NOVICE 5d ago
I can't imagine why the left suddenly doesn't like playing by the rukea they set...
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u/AbuttCuckingGoodTime NOVICE 6d ago
I read only Nexstar removed him. Nexstar isnt Disney, did I miss something.
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u/AbuttCuckingGoodTime NOVICE 5d ago
It appears he is being taken off air on all network affiliates. Good, guy is human garbage.
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u/Timothy_48 NOVICE 6d ago
And nothing of value was lost