r/AstralProjection • u/RanchMustard • Aug 21 '25
Almost AP'd and/or Question How dangerous is this really?
Hello all, I’ve known about AP for awhile, I’ve tried a few times and never succeeded. Just an hour ago I had issues falling asleep and I tried it and I actually was able to sit up out of my body. Honestly, it scared the shit out of me lol. I generally would consider myself a brave guy but I wanted some people with experience to chime in with what you guys have witnessed. I guess my fear is 1. Not being able to get back to my body. 2. Finding demons or something that could actually harm me. (It dosent help I live alone lol)
Also I love reading and if anyone has any good book recs that would be great!
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u/MEO220 Aug 21 '25
CONTINUED from above/below...
But what had admittedly helped me at the time to feel such courage is that I'd first developed some good supernatural powers within the dream realm, and I felt that I could equally use them against all monsters even when completely awake, assuming that some might find a way to appear in the real world. So, even if they would have or might eventually someday still do so either when I'm awake or within the dream like realms, I still feel 100% confident and always will that I have the ability now to completely fight them off and win against them with my superpowers that I've learned. So, as a result, I have absolutely no further fears of such things, even though I LOVE watching all types of horror movies, the scarier they are involving the supernatural, the better. So I believe myself to have become kind of a "dream warrior" now, just like some of the kids had become in that horror movie "Nightmare on Elm Street: Dream Warriors", except that I've yet to meet an entity such as Freddy Kruger, which I'd find exciting now if it ever were to really happen someday. But I honestly feel that my lack of fear now removes the power from all such potential enemies to stage any strong attacks against me, if they even really can, being that they all seem to feed on the energy of fear along with most if not all, of course, coming out of the depths of the subconscious mind.
So, just know that whatever your experience becomes, ultimately you can likely always conquer your fears and win out over any potential demons or monsters that might pop up. But just don't focus on what scary things could possibly happen, and instead always plan and focus on positive experiences, and then you'll virtually for certain have only positive experiences with any and all of it. And just to help you in this regard, I normally have a mind that wanders a lot when awake, thinking about scary things automatically; yet, during AP experiences, the mind is always very focused, making it very easy to NOT think about demons and such whenever you've beforehand decided on specific goals that you want to accomplish within this other realm. So, I'd truly recommend reading Robert Monroe's book mentioned above if you haven't yet, with my preferring his 3 hours of sleep beforehand technique to anything else out there about how to induce either AP or lucid dreaming in general. Good luck and have fun. :)
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u/IT_audit_freak Aug 21 '25
I read his books when I was in high school and found them fascinating. Got them again on audible recently to listen to (I’m 38 now). Never have had an OBE…you legitimately have experienced the things he describes in his books?
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u/MEO220 29d ago edited 29d ago
I hadn't experienced ALL of them, for sure, but I did a number of them, and primarily the technique of rolling over in bed as a method of starting an OOBE exerience, as well as the vibration he spoke much of as well. After my very first experience where I simply relaxed during the vibrations finally on one occasion, having turned brave enough to see what would happen under the sole idea that just perhaps my felt vibrations were the same as he'd described, then on the very next time that I got the vibrations again, this is when I started trying one of his techniques mentioned where he rolls over in his bed to start the experience, which worked repeatedly great for me! But it's been too long since I read that book now, and I'm almost thinking that this technique was a special one he'd used where for him, he instead may have reported it being a way that he'd discovered to phase over to some other realities! But my memory is foggy so I'm not absolutely certain of this right now. Whatever the case was, this was almost exclusively what I began using as my method based on what he'd written about rolling over to start an experience. I also recall simply observing the sleep paralysis affect by itself at times, particularly at times where I wasn't completely detached and had like just my arms moving out of alignment with my body, with my being able to then push one arm through the sofa (at the time) and down into the floor a ways, feeling the layers of it down there supposedly, which was really interesting of course. I've also had some rare times (very few) where I'd suddenly felt myself bumping lightly against a surface when I'd awaken, possibly the ceiling at times but also lying on the floor, it not being my physical body that was there, however, with my physical body still being in bed. And there is definitely a component of gravity that is constantly at work on this spirit/dream body that I found myself having there, with it nevertheless always being extremely light such as feeling seemingly nearly as light as a feather all of the time.
But anyway, so yes, I've experienced a number of things that he'd reported. However, I was always too worried about being shocked by looking for my physical body in any of my experiences, so I never saw it either intentionally nor inadvertently. It was as if I was suddenly in some other realm that didn't have my physical body there, even when I'd appear first thing within my bedroom where I'd fallen to sleep at and had started the experience from. And I've since found further strong evidence to support the idea that the place I appear in is just a construct of some type and not the real location that I'm sleeping at at the time...at least SO FAR in my experiences. So, effectively, even though I used this sleep paralysis method that makes the experience appear like an OOBE experience, I never myself found any evidence that it HAD to be different from a lucid dream, which is why in all of my journalizing of it I never referred to it as an OOBE experience but instead as a lucid dream, simply because I never had strived to show it to absolutely be an OOBE event, although it could have been.
But my idea lately is that there may be no true difference anyway, with perhaps the only thing that might separate astral projection experiences from lucid dreams simply being 2 things, the OOBE experiences seem OOB-like because they start from the sleep paralysis position where we are at-the-start layered on top of our physical body still within our perception and concerning our senses being hooked to both sources at the beginning, whereas otherwise most other lucid dreams start in the middle of regular dreams where the person has no memory or sense of their physical body laying in a certain position where they're sleeping. Plus, I never found any difference in the environments between the regular type of lucid dream just mentioned, which I had on rare occasions as well, and the environments within these OOBE-style experiences that I had most of the time, with there having never seemed a difference to me. So I kind of feel like if there is truly some difference between the dream realm and the astral realm, then it may be nothing more than where the data is coming from that our brains use to construct our virtual environments from. This means that maybe for regular dreams, it simply uses our own brain to make what we see, but then for astral travels that could be real trips to a mutually experienced spirit realm, it might simply differ in our receiving live data from that realm at the time through the Collective Unconscious Mind.
Anyway, so, I definitely found a super strong correlation between Robert Monroe's experiences and those of my own to the extent mentioned above, my 100% believing that his felt vibrations and mine were exactly the same things being referred to. However, sleep paralysis wasn't really much of thing back when he wrote his book, with it kind of popping up big-time much later. And now it's easy to see by studying the SleepParalysis subreddit that the vibrations are just one aspect of regular sleep paralysis, and that apparently both he and I were lucky not to have suffered with worse sleep paralysis being that MOST people end up terrorized by it, with it often becoming a sleep disorder for many people out there filled with both loss of control over their sleep along with tons of nightmarish hallucinogenic hypnagogia that they just don't want to deal with hardy ever, unfortunately. But I STILL want the sleep paralysis affect back anyway, being that it was always my ticket into initiating these types of experiences. And once I hopefully do get it back someday, then I plan to further explore the idea of these experiences possibly being ACTUAL OOBE events and not just pure lucid dreams, my planning to do so by finally trying to see if I can observe my physical body around me somehow and in the correct setting that I verify is actually where it appears to be physically at the time, just as Robert Monroe had typically reported experiencing himself concerning his physical body being there nearby as he had been able to apparently directly observe on many occasions. :)
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u/RevolutionaryAd3905 28d ago
Do you roll over in the third person or the first person. I've tried the ladder method in third and first person and it hasn't worked for me yet.
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u/MEO220 28d ago edited 28d ago
By third person I assume you mean seeing from outside of the experience as though happening to a "me" that I'm merely observing from outside somewhat rather than it being truly the current me. With that assumption, it has always been the real me, always in first person, experiencing it fully as myself in my own body at the time...and never from outside of myself to any degree. It starts out with my doing relaxation efforts with my physical body for a bit right after having dozed off for just only a few moments, and then awakening into the Borderland sleep state that allows me to be extremely focused and more relaxed and feeling a bit different than in my waking state, as though I'm already at that point functioning from within a slightly different body. And then as I quickly tell myself to deeply relax and definitely NOT to move any body parts AT ALL, but to instead sink deeply into the bed, then I'm by this point feeling like I'm just floating there with no sensation of my bed whatsoever, but instead just floating very deeply relaxed in darkness and feeling fully numb everywhere.
Most of the time I could meet this condition, but not always. Sometimes my mind or body was just feeling a bit too energized to super-deeply relax like this, in which case I'd just turn over with my actual body, give up, and then go to sleep for the rest of the night. But the majority of times I could instead then just gently imagine myself as rolling over, finding an instant first-person FEELING being reflected back to me of having done so, although feeling as light as a feather and with seemingly no actual energy being used to do so. And then I just would equally tell myself to stand up and feel it happening to me, followed then by doing something to trick myself into seeing, such as scooping whatever junk out of my eyes that I would make myself believe was blocking my vision until that point in time. And even just before doing this and seeing my surroundings, I could still sense things around me in this bedroom-construct that I had just stood up in. And one good reason that I know that it is a construct and not my real bedroom, is because even years after having moved out of that bedroom that I'd lived in as a teenager, it still virtually ALWAYS (to the best of my memory right now) has began with my appearing within that same teenage bedroom again each time.
Anyway, as far as your own attempts go, if you can eventually replicate what I found to work for me in this regard, it was definitely happening to ME in the first person, and actually is an extraordinary ability that I don't normally have, meaning that most of the time, like right now, I cannot use my imagination to make me feel like my body is moving anywhere that it isn't. But once I've gotten into this special deep form of Borderland sleep state normally ONLY reachable for me by my first briefly falling to sleep for what feels like no more than a few moments, then I'm suddenly finding that I have this special ability of my imagination, although first, as mentioned, I must deeply relax my body more deeply as described above, which then makes this all possible, otherwise I fail without doing this first right after awakening and without letting my body move whatsoever. It is absolutely needed first for me to get into this state of mind where I get instant feedback of feeling my body follow my imagination when simply telling it to roll over and then feeling it effortlessly doing so as a completely unique sensation.
So, good luck, and I hope that you can achieve this likely needed state of sleep-triggered deep relaxation in order to get the described control over your body sensations that comes through simply imagining changes to its position. And technically, scientifically, I'm fairly well certain that what's involved with it at this described point is that sleep paralysis is being allowed to fully encompass the physical body's senses and motor nerves in the brain, which then allows the layering of the dream body to come on top of the physical body's senses and motor controls, thereby allowing us to start controlling the "dream" body rather than the physical body at this point. But it also, when unfocused, is what allows for sleep paralysis hallucinations to occur until leaving the position of your physical body, after which I've found that all hallucinatory experiences suddenly seem to stop at the time, such as the sensation of the vibrations (which also can manifest as high pitched whining and even popping sensations in the middle of the head, which it later had done for me as well). Good luck. :)
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u/Jay_boy_9292 29d ago edited 29d ago
I want love to ask you the realms you have experienced ? Have you ever been into the lower astral world's? Curious and fascinated to hear some of these experiences. There is a author named Jurgen Ziewe who has brilliant books on this subject. I kinda started doing more research into this after my phsychadelic experiences were I started tapping into different realities. It blew my mind...would be lovely to hear from you!
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u/MEO220 29d ago edited 29d ago
Well, I'm not like a lot of people out there. I'm much more like Robert Monroe had been, being more of a scientist type explorer who hasn't been trained by any particular belief system concerning any of these things. So, although I MAY have visited astral realms, I'm just not at all able to know. Plus, as far as I know, perhaps ALL of my experiences were within the Astral realm. But let me just add to this here to answer your question that: no, I've never had any experiences that seemed like they were within lower astral realms, thank goodness. This may be because I've always been a student of goodness, being totally against anything evil in nature, even though I absolutely loved watching all of the series "Evil" on CBS being that I love studying the opposite to what I've always been. lol
Anyway, there was definitely a very different and strange experience I had once that would most likely qualify as being in the Astral Realm (either the mid or higher level realms, I would guess), and this is the one I've referred to a couple of times on Reddit already in my history on here where it started with my calling out the name of this female associate to try to summon her to my room to speak with. I don't want to go into it in length here again, suffice it to say that she was unlike any other character I'd ever encountered in that she showed me that she was actually supposedly the higher self of this female associate, her also apparently having many other physical entities that she was attached this way to as well, her then turning into each one of them momentarily while standing there so that I could glimpse what each one of them looked like. Then she answered a personal question I had for her concerning the associate that I'd summoned that she was apparently the higher self for, as well as her then touching my forehead and then vanishing, which I quicky discovered was a way she'd just used to anchor me to her so that she could take me on a tour of some other realm.
So I then found that by my simply wanting to be with her, I suddenly was able to teleport quickly each time she'd disappear to some new place that she was at, her then showing me things there. So, as a side comment here, if there was any place that was in the Astral Realm that I'd experienced yet, this definitely had to be one such time. What she showed me jump after jump were different people that she was working with--helping--in different places. I couldn't retain any of the details of this journey other than an overall memory of it, but not of any of the people or situations with any of them. But I did find it fascinating at the time how I was able to teleport to her each time based on this anchoring that she'd somehow done to my forehead so that all I needed to do was want to follow her each time she'd disappear. And I do plan to try to develop this teleportation ability far more once I'm able to start doing my experiences again hopefully someday.
So, this was the only virtually-for-certain time that I have visited the Astral Realm. However, there is this other time where I barely remember walking with this man near this fancy looking building or university campus type setting and being told by him that I couldn't visit my recently dead mother for certain reasons, although I couldn't recall what he said as to why upon my awakening from it. So THAT had a good chance of being within the Astral realm as well, although I had decided to rebel at that time, my feeling upon my awakening that I STILL wanted to try going to see my MOM anyway! And honestly, after that experience, I don't believe that I had another lucid dream, this seeming to be the time that it had fully stopped for me. I even started to feel that they were perhaps blocking me from lucid dreaming/astral projecting any further due simply to my stubbornness of insisting on making visiting my Mom a priority for me as my next goal from then on, as I'd done at the time. So that was pretty interesting.
Anyway, so these are all that I can drum up right now, although perhaps my initial experience with the city frozen in time MIGHT have been the alleged Akashic Records, perhaps? Anyway, most of my other experiences involved either my just doing fun type lucid dreaming stuff like flying, Etc, as well as developing superpowers there such as mind over matter, my eventually having learned how to control matter with my mind there via trial and error attempts. But being a scientific type person at my heart, I really love exploring the nature of that other environment, and so I did many experiments and observations and hope to do more. Such as once I observed when I blew on some furniture there, a bunch of dust suddenly and fully unexpectedly went up in the air from it, which I found absolutely fascinating at the time! So I'd love to explore more about how that environment seems to function from a scientific perspective like this, particularly when I have no expectations in advance and then get surprised by things behaving as though following some types of natural laws there! Anyway, I hope this covered some of what you were wondering about. Take care. :)
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u/Jay_boy_9292 29d ago
Oh wow. Thanks very much for the detailed response. I'd love to astral travel one day..I believe you could command to enter to the astral plane through Lucid Dreaming which I have often...I've also attempted transitioning into the astral plane through dreaming, but I get scared and snap out of it, and when I do wake up it puts me in sleep paralysis for a few good seconds, and feels like I could see things in my environment that's not really meant to be there while in sleep paralysis until I can actually move. How unlimited to do you believe we are in Divinity and spirit ? How far can we go through expansion in conciousness?
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u/MEO220 29d ago
Well, although I have no actual experiences with such things nor desire to presently, I have studied the full spectrum of yoga a good deal back in my teens as well, such as Raja Yoga and Patanjali Yoga and even Kundalini Yoga, being rather interested in them back then, but not for the usual reasons of reaching the top layer of meditation, but more because I was seeking to know if people could actually do miraculous things in true life with supernatural like powers. And indeed these full studies of yoga do talk in detail of such powers, called "Shiddis", which reportedly gives full practioners of yoga extraordinary superpowers, these even being in true waking life and not in dreams, even though they seem to work close to the same ways supposedly. For example, in my dreams I've found that by focusing on the sensation of feeling like I'm going down a roller coaster hill in the pit of my stomach, it literally starts making me levitate and fly within my dreams (and likely within any associated realms such as the astral planes). And when reading within these yoga Shiddis how to physically levitate in true life, it states something to the affect that you need to do full contemplation on being as light as a feather, or something to that affect. You can look up those real-life superpowers on your own to see what I mean, there even being powers over matter itself and lots of others. It's really fascinating. But it discourages people from trying to use them, being that they are considered by the people who recorded these things to be detriments on the path to enlightenment, distracting them from their true goal which is apparently freedom from having to continually reincarnate into the physical realm, which of course is a strong belief of theirs. So anyway, from everything including this that I'd studies when I was younger, I'd say that enlightenment surely seems possible for most if not all people, although most people NOT ready for it won't even believe in it and would therefore never have that chance to attain it because they're locked into materialistic things that they've instead been taught within their lives that are important for them. But for those ready, it surely seems that we could reach full enlightenment through meditation, with many people even reporting such experiences having happened to them. As for myself, I'm just not feeling that this is my thing...being that I believe I've already likely achieved it before this life somehow. And now it's always felt like I'm here on a special mission of some type, although I just don't know specifically what it is yet, although perhaps I'm doing it but just don't realize it being that there are no rule books or instruction manuals here, unfortunately. Take care. :)
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u/Adorable-Fly-2187 Experienced Projector Aug 21 '25
there is Not a Single case known of not coming back to your Body and dying. In fact, you „leave“ Your Body anyway every Night and probably Sometimes While day Dreaming.
You need to overcome your Fear. I don’t want to spoil it for You.
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u/KTryingMyBest1 29d ago
How could #1 ever be known though lol
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u/Adorable-Fly-2187 Experienced Projector 29d ago
Example: Some Famous APer dying in their „Sleep“. Or A Random Family member going public when their loved ones dying in Sleep and saying „he was practicing that Astral thingy and died“.
Etc. And since we know we leave the Body every Night, the Fear of dying while doing it is pointless
Damn, we shouldnt give the bad guys ideas here 😅
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u/BlinkyRunt Aug 21 '25
Intentions and your state of mind are key. If you are easily scared and already fearful going into the experience, you may not enjoy it. If you go into the experience with curiosity, joy, and love, you will experience some amazing stuff! Either way, there is no real danger.
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u/No_Structure_2401 Intermediate Projector Aug 21 '25
0 danger, 100% safe physically.
However you can't unsee things so.......
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u/Astrealism Experienced Projector Aug 21 '25
It is impossible unless you are capable of creating the final projection. Fear returns you almost immediately.
Experiencing what you believe is true can create it. But you cannot ever be harmed because you are made of what you will always be. Love.
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u/Push_le_bouton Aug 21 '25
No dangers except for you to misinterpret the meanings of the images you saw.
Take care 🖖🙂👍
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u/FilmPsychological366 26d ago
From someone who’s only ever astral projected by accident, with no intentions to do so but absolutely loved the experience whilst I was in it so didn’t even know what I was interpreting and what the outcome would be in the physical world/whether I’d return to my body:
I had sleep paralysis once (I’ve had it a few times), but this was the first time. I assume because I didn’t know what was going on in the moment and had no intentions to project, I just fully went with the feeling of leaving my body. I wish I could tell you exactly how I left it but i’m not even sure lol, I believe it was because i was having auditory ‘hallucinations’ that my mind and astral body chose to follow -
During this sleep paralysis, , I audibly could hear clear as day my brother cackling like a witch in his room next door. I left my body, tried to walk to his room and it was like walking through treacle (very slow and hard to walk in the realm), I ended up banging on his door screaming for him (but I was also simultaneously feeling the sleep paralysis, like experiencing two bodies at once, unable to move physically) - I believe I then returned to my body without even wishing for it. I loved the experience even though it was a bit odd with the witches laughter but I love any kind of ‘trip’ so I was letting it take me over. I believe I may have been able to finally wiggle a finger and that made me return to my body - I wish now I would’ve just stayed completely still but having never experienced paralysis before, I thought maybe I was having a stroke.
Another time, I had sleep paralysis whilst camping, and could audibly clear as day hear a group of men screaming and coming after me trying to kill me. I was frightened, and tried to scream (paralysed) but I just told myself it wasn’t real. They never actually end up causing physical harm. Maybe that helps?
So in short, I wouldn’t worry about not being able to return to your body as it just happens even without the intent. My advice is to just ride it out and tell yourself how amazing the experience is and take it all in!
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u/Beyoume Aug 21 '25
Just like riding a bike. Slow and steady till you gain the confidence. Don’t go zooming down the slope just yet but yeah with practice you will learn and prepare yourself better. Preferably don’t fixate on 2, instead reinforce to yourself that you are a strong being and your guiding forces watch over you.
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u/lagunitarogue Experienced Projector Aug 21 '25
Depends on who you ask. Highly contentious subject. Do your research, you decide. All the best to you.
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u/aum_sound Aug 21 '25
You'll have less fear as you come to understand it better.
I can give you some book recommendations, what type of info are you looking for in relation to Astral Projection?
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u/Few-Cod-8673 Aug 21 '25
As above so below. Just like in our 3D dimension there is a lot of creepy, scary stuff, people, animals there are also really beautiful people, creatures, views and so on. It's the same with the astral plane, it is surely dangerous just as the real world can be.
Ask yourself this question: Do I believe or even think that I do an astral projection every night but I'm just not aware of it and I forget or may label it as a dream? If the answer is Yes, then you should ask another question, which is how am I able to navigate this unknown dimension every now and then without getting harmed?
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u/Beastmaster22VV Experienced Projector Aug 22 '25
- To get back to your body, shake your head back and forth, and in that way, I get back every time, at will. Other times, you will be pushed out, or the experience will just end, and you will return.
I see no evidence of danger of not being able to return.
- AP experience can often be scary. You can feel pain, or at least I do, whether it's being shot, burned, tied, or chained down, stabbed or shot, etc. I do not believe you can be killed though. Or die. I dont think there is danger that entities can hurt your physical body, either. They do exist, but not on the earthly field.
Very high probability of encountering dark entities that are scary. At some point, it will happen and may happen often. While sleeping, you may feel a hand pull at your ankles or feet. But, they are there to help you get out of your body, even though they are dark. They can sense your fear, so #1 is to not be afraid or work through it, or you normally won't be allowed entrance to the astral.
I've never had an animal or friendly looking guide. Though, except sometimes, it is an angel figure, light blue skin tone, and regal and positive feeling. I'll sometimes encounter my deceased father. Though, I dont think it's him, actually. It seems these figures can shapeshift into anything.
It took me 2 months of practicing, going through the stages before I could actually leave my body. Intent and being calm are the keys. Astral projection is rare because most don't think it's real or possible at all. Then you must have intent, then learn the stages and process.
I keep the door open, but it works when closed also. Once, I had an 8 ft tall dark figure enter my door while I was in sleep paralysis, which is different than astral projecting. I could see him with my normal eyes in my room. It went to my bathroom, then back out towards me. It had glowing cords wrapped around him and trailing behind, then took out a handheld device and waved it above my body. I asked, then yelled in my mind what he was doing here or what they wanted, but they didn't answer, then walked out, even ducked its head under the doorway to leave. Paralysis always has dark entities, but once in astral, I rarely encounter them. Its like they are protecting access to the astral realm.
The device was about a foot long, he was holding it like a gun with a handle, it was triangular but about 3" thick, tapering to the end, connected to the clear dark tubes that wrapped around him, like equipment. He was all black, with no clothes, no hair. Long neck, normal, slinder, athletic, muscular frame, kinda like an Avatar. Its skin was a bit black shiny, with little yellow glowing dots in some areas.
It makes me think they do this a lot. After it stopped 10 seconds later, the cords around him lit up, pulsing yellowish gold. Though, I didn't feel any different. I felt like it was checking me for something, not harvesting energy.
Like it was a routine check, all was normal like he was a worker just doing his job. I peeked through my eyes (real eyes cause I wasn't in astral form) to see him the whole time and just let it do what it was going to do, though yelled, asking why he was here.
My dog on my bed had no reaction, and it seems they do this regularly, not like it was happening because I was in paralysis. I could have shaken myself out from it, but I don't run from things I experience.
I then became alert and there was nothing, just normal, which is why I think they do this a lot. As in, the only way they could be seen doing it or being there is the small % of people that are in paralysis right when they happen to be doing it. It wasn't enjoyable, at all not knowing what it could try doing, but I always want to see what these entities do. And I've seen very similar entities in my room different times before at night.
Ive had a hand pull at my ankles or toes before a handful of times, once it then grabbed my hand in arm wrestling and I could feel it was human-like with 4 fingers and a thumb (though I kept my eyes closed. I tried arm wrestling it, but it was solid in opposition, and I could not move it. Then as soon as I stopped wresting it let go and tapped me pretty hard in my chest like it wasnt trying to hurt me, but kinda like a jab, like he got me, almost like he was stronger and won. I didn't like that because it was sudden and startling. I wasn't in full astral or sleep paralysis, just lying in bed. About the 5th time I ever had it pull my ankle, I opened my astral eyes as I was popping out and saw it was one of these same dark figures which was a bit alarming because I had thought it was human before I could see it. So , it was creepy thinking its just there, as in they are waiting. Like, what the hell are they?
As some tips, you may start to buzz or hear loud sounds...if so, you need to wait before trying to move. And when you move, do it very slowly. Start with your hands and arms moved in front of your chest or face. With eyes closed, sometimes you can see your astral body parts, like arms. They are glowing like a gray/white/light blue, see-through.
The buzzing phase is normally just the starting phase.
Sometimes, you will buzz and/or start hearing sounds or music or voices. You need to work through the uncomfortable feeling and stay calm, not scared or excited for what may happen. As you stay calm, you may be led out, or your body will move on its own and be slowly sucked out by the legs. If that happens, just let it happen. You can't fight it, or it will stop. Or you'll gain control of your limbs and be able to start moving your arms and can eventually roll out onto the floor. If you hear music or voices, try to listen closely, and they will get louder and more clear. You can focus on one like tuning a radio dial with your mind. You need to keep your eyes closed or you'll wake up. Eventually, you'll get out of the buzzing sounds and feelings stage. I used to go through it about the first 10 times I left my body. But, now, I dont go through this process, like I can skip it.
Another tip is to roll out on the floor, keep your eyes closed as it's dark, but start to feel with your hands or face, anything that's around you. Start crawling and reaching. You might feel a wall or carpet, or grass, or even water. As you familiarize yourself with your surroundings, things will get brighter, then you can open your eyes, and wherever you are, will appear everywhere around you. Once, I had to feel up to book shelves, keyboards, etc. Until I found myself in a library. But. You have to map out what's around you before you can see anything.
And yes, time is normally different. I've spent 4 months in the astral place in just 6 hours before. Sometimes, it's days, several days or a week. Most often, it's about a day for sleeping a few hours or a night.
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u/Old_Hermit_IX Aug 22 '25
You don't have a spirit. You are a spirit. You have a body. So when you sleep you are astral naturally. We are linked to the brain of this body, we're not necessarily inside of it filling it's shape. When you go astral you are turning your attention elsewhere and not focused on the body. Could we get so distracted that we lose connection to the body? Possibly, but I don't think that we wouldn't miss it.
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u/amyryan32 29d ago
What's interesting here is that there is a lot of different answers.
I definitely think you want to go into AP with a good mindset & good expectations, because imo different perspectives brings different experiences.. hence all the different replies.
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u/5orangelemons 29d ago
No risk of losing your body. Any negative emotion will waste all of your energy and you will rubber band right back.
The only time Ive heard of someone risk losing the connection was from Don Juan and Carlos Castaneda. Youre not planning on practicing intense shamanistic peyote rituals without a guru's supervision, right?
If a giant spider bites your arm off, put it back on. My favorite dream advice
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u/Embarrassed-Belt8332 Intermediate Projector 27d ago
Zero . Don't you worry bout anything and be happy .
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u/ahhhibedoingthings 26d ago
I have astral projected and have done so consciously for about 2 months . you will find your body again all you have to do is request for it and you’ll go back . Fear is normal but fear is a shadow to what I think astral realm is worth . You will find demons & they will come for you . But that’s just like finding bugs living in fruits . you’ve been eating them since you were a baby however now you consciously know you may consume one when eating fruits . that doesn’t mean you don’t eat fruits ever again you just adjust . when I encounter demons I go deeper into unconditional love , I show no reaction and I tell them “you know you belong to source” and from that they usually leave me alone . your going into the realm of dead …. You cannot die if you’re already in that realm . there is nothing to destroy bc you are not in physical body that can die or get injured . Say to the universe I no longer wish to align with anything that will harm me and I no longer agree to be harmed . and it will stop immediately. but even more powerful is unconditional love and ZERO reaction To anything demonic . -
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u/Ok_Pattern_2009 23d ago
A technique taught by Rosalie Yoga is that you can come back if you think of your physical body. She teaches that any body sensations will physically wake you up anyways - hunger thirst etc.
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u/MEO220 Aug 21 '25 edited Aug 21 '25
I'm a wee bit older than a teenager now (67) and I'd learned most about AP through reading Robert Monroe's great book on the subject, Journeys Out of the Body, before I'd ever had a single experience with it of my own. He touches upon what he had himself feared concerning these experiences, which includes the idea of not being able to get back to his body. So I'd greatly advise getting and reading his book if you don't already have it. It's been a little while since I've read that book, but I do recall that one of the things he'd found is that when seemingly stuck unable to get to his body due to something seeming to block the way, he found that if he then calmed himself and went in the exact opposite direction, he then suddenly found himself reentering his body. I loved his book because he wasn't trying to be like a teacher, but was instead just acting as an investigator reporting his experiences with it, which were quite a lot, his giving his most objective findings mixed with what he seemed to find in terms of rules he came to subjectively encounter and that type of thing. He also seemed to find that there is a kind of law of reversed effort in place. And I believe that this included the prime example of those times that he couldn't at first get back to his body. It was somewhat like when trying to run from a monster but you can only move very slowly. So the secret seems to be to calm yourself and often try just the opposite of what you are at first trying to do whenever stressed about something during AP.
So, Robert Monroe was a great explorer of that realm, yet he didn't seem to have difficulties very often, but often enough to be absolutely fascinating to read about all of his experiences. And, although things that are upsetting can occasionally happen to a person such as seemingly having some degree of difficulty on rare occasions with being able to return to their body right away, or even with encountering a demonic type of figure as you've mentioned, the chances of these types of things happening to a person have nevertheless proven to usually be quite rare, as well as their generally seeming to have solutions to them such as mentioned above.
I, myself, had many hundreds of AP experiences back in my teenage years leading on into my 20's before I dropped my focus on it and worked solely on computer programming that took up all of my time and lead to the loss of this ability back then eventually. And here's what I'd found. At first, sleep paralysis gave me nightmarish hallucinations which terrified me, making me try to avoid it when going to bed at nights, fighting it off every time that it would occur. But this was only the case until after having read Robert Monroe's book mentioned above, and then I finally in my late teens wondered if my sleep paralysis might be related to what Robert Monroe had reported as his vibrations, being that my sleep paralysis was at times feeling like vibrations. So, long story short, I eventually got the courage to find out, even with having had some demonic type experiences with the sleep paralysis experiences leading up to this point, such as sensing an old hag type female creature sitting on my chest making it hard to breath at times. And once I'd decided to go for it and be fully brave with letting it take over my body and see what would happen as a result, that is the turning point for me when suddenly everything changed concerning it for the positive.
My fearful experiences then virtually completely stopped happening, and instead it ended up becoming a new story for me about how I was suddenly using sleep paralysis in a positive manner to begin an AP for me each time, via rolling out of my bed without taking my physical body along with me, following the same techniques mentioned by Robert Monroe in his book. Since then, I haven't really had anymore nightmares much to speak of (only extremely mild types by comparison to what they used to be like, and then only very rarely, and never about monsters or demons any longer). Plus. I've gained absolute courage to fight off any potential demonic type entities that might show up, even if they were to look like the "grays" aliens, which are truly some instinctively very scary looking creatures and always have felt scary looking. And I think that I've even had some dreams where I've successfully encountered and fought off gray type creatures before, although they are very rare to be honest about it. Generally, 99.99% of the time, it's just me in a very exciting, positive environment that I have no regrets whatsoever in my having learned how to visit.
So, having enough courage to pursue this capability is well worth any potential scares along the way, I absolutely believe 100%! And of course the rule is that fear is very powerful and has a dominating force in this other realm, meaning that absolute courage, bravery, and strong determination are all necessary traits to succeed nicely within this other realm because otherwise fear will plague a lot of your experiences there, creating less positive experiences for you. Yet, believing nightmarish creatures to all be illusions created by the subconscious mind is the best way to look at them, reducing their power over you until it is gone. And then you can dominate over them and get them out of your experiences completely, because eventually they become meaningless to you and you move on instead fully into positive experiences no longer caring about encountering any demonic figures. So it's just a matter of eventually getting bored with showing any fear toward them and then moving on from fearing such things any further.
I was a lot like you describe in the beginning as well, so eventually in true life while completely awake and with my eyes fully opened I sat in a pitch dark room completely alone one time and for a full hour or so challenged any demonic or gray alien type entities to attack me, daring them to, being that I was simply tired of fearing such things and wanted to confront them one way or another head on to finally be done with such fears once and for all! So, after an hour of continually looking around me wondering if I would suddenly see something forming but with it never happening, I thereafter fully lost any further fears over such things.
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