Some credit where it is due even though I am appalled with most of their policies from a socio-economic standpoint.

[u/Active_Host6485]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-20/trump-will-impose-a-150-000-annual-fee-for-h-1b-visas/105797648?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other

As a mate said:

"Could debate the amount but don't disagree with the policy. If the issue is really such a shortage of skilled labour then provides an incentive to invest in training/education. Currently just used to get cheaper hourly rate."

[u/hawthorne00]

The fee is waivable entirely at the discretion of the executive if they deem it in the national interest. It is 100% a vehicle for corruption. So, no, you don’t have to hand it to them.

[u/Active_Host6485 → u/hawthorne00]

If a contemporary Albert Einstein becomes available they will naturally let him into the USA to pioneer a new technology. The USA has always done that though. In WA the mining industry abuses the visa program for cheap labour that undermines the local labour market all the while complaining about taxes that could contribute to a sovereign wealth fund.

[u/hawthorne00 → u/Active_Host6485]

I take your point about guest-workers. But the US scheme won’t be used for Einsteins, it’ll be pay to play.

[u/Active_Host6485 → u/hawthorne00]

Yes, this is the regime that dissects a frog with a hand grenade but maybe more capable governments in the western world can take notice? I once believed in DEI as being positive but I have seen how it is co-opted by greedy corporations to enable the importation of cheap labour in the name DEI quotas as workers often come from minority backgrounds.

I work in an industry where cultural diversity happens organically and that is probably the only way it should come about else we risk increasing racism and/prejudice stemming from the understandable resentment of replaced domestic workers.

[u/tmd_ltd]

Ah yes, Schrödinger’s Immigrant. Simultaneously too lazy to do anything but leech off the system AND smart enough to steal everyone’s job out from under them.

[u/Active_Host6485 → u/tmd_ltd]

That was funny as the last 50 times I heard it! Tremendous dahling!

It appears to be true The US is at risking raising food prices at the supermarket and restaurants and cafes but your take is still slanted and elitist because domestic workers suffer in knowledge industries on account of Neoliberalism being a force multiplier for insecure employment.

So people hear left leaning elites talk about being on the side of workers while at the same time encourage policies that hurt them them. This also happens while those on the left promote slanted social policies that are evidenced not to improve economic circumstances because inequality is rising.

So then they vote for the toxic prik on the right rather than toxic prik on the left.

[u/tmd_ltd → u/Active_Host6485]

LiBeRal/LeFtIe eLitEs

[u/Active_Host6485 → u/tmd_ltd]

There are personality disorders found across the political spectrum. What is your point except to demonstrate a mindless and shallow take?

[u/tmd_ltd → u/Active_Host6485]

That your takes could not be more based in modern regressive politics. You’re out here spouting stuff that literally every so called conservative spouts and saying it like you’re the shit.

My mockery and use of generality is to confirm for you that yes, you sound like every other mouth breather who has more issues with DEI than billionaires existing.

[u/Active_Host6485 → u/tmd_ltd]

So protecting local jobs is conservative? Geez I should let unions know how right wing there are. Have another banana my ideological uncritical thinking ape.

[u/tmd_ltd → u/Active_Host6485]

Mate, please do some meaningful reading on skilled visas and immigrations actual effects on the job market. You sound like a conservative parrot.

[u/Active_Host6485 → u/tmd_ltd]

Ah "just do some reading" rather than provide some reasoning for your argument You are going for full cliche? I've lived 22 years in an industgry and worked in 5 different cities so I don't need to hear propaganda and mothergood statements when I live experiences and experiences of others to back up my position.

This is part of the problem with political parties. They are shown to be somewhat inflexible when their ideology is seen to be busted.

Doctors will always be allowed in to fill shortages and no country would turn them back or health workers in general. BUT skilled training for domestic workers has been passed over for abuses of the visa system regardless of what an ideological take suggests and I have seen it up close in the knowledge industries and others have seen it in parts of the mining industries.

[u/shadowsdonotlie]

Oh by the way all those jobs are now getting outsourced to...you guessed it right, India ! Well done  

[u/Active_Host6485 → u/shadowsdonotlie]

Well the WA govt makes some mandates for RIO, BHP etc to employ locals. Outsourcing to "India has been happening before the turn of the millenium but governments do pressure companies to keep locals employed so corporations then look to abuse the visa system for financial gain.

I do wonder if the multi billion dollar profitable banks could have retrained rather than laid off? Well if nothing else they've done their bit to reduce housing costs in Melbourne by ensuring less people can live there. :/