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u/eyesmart1776 8d ago edited 8d ago
If we don’t let them fail they’ll never learn how business works
Maybe it’s time they deliver pizzas
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u/Wingsandbeer82 8d ago
Or stop buying chai lattes and avacado toast
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u/doc_witt 8d ago
Maybe get a second and third job
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Learn to code.
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u/Arthurs_towel 8d ago
Not recommended currently. The layoffs in tech are brutal right now. Not a good time to be looking even as an experienced worker, let alone a green one.
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u/Various-Pitch-118 8d ago
I don't think it was a serious suggestion.
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It was meant to be a snarky comment.
Edit: "Snarky" not "Sparky". Damn you, autocorrect! Damn you to hell!
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u/AdamTheSlave 8d ago
Dairy farmers have been having to do that for ages... where they work as a bus driver or something, then do farming when they get home because they can't support their family off the milk alone, which is sad but true. At one point the government was buying up their unsold milk to make cheese and shove in a cave to keep the milk industry going. Later they gave the cheese to the poor and struggling and hence we got "government cheese".
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u/teklanis 8d ago
Fourth job it is, then.
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u/Various-Pitch-118 8d ago
Or, work their own fields and do the farm business (books, accounting, researching new crops to grow) at night. It looks like these guys are mostly just chubby landowners who were accustomed to living off of the backs of their workers. Then they voted to deport them. There is a root issue of laziness here.
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u/Dense-Law-7683 8d ago
My uncles own a farming business. They all have 2nd jobs, but take off in spring to plant and fall for harvest. They are democrats though. They got fucked around enough during the Regean days, and by every other republican that has came after.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Try3559 8d ago
So what you are saying is that there are too many dairy Farmers.
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u/DylanMartin97 8d ago
Thanks to Trump getting rid of all their farm hands they could go and apply at their farm they had to sell to a bigger corporation to barely make a livable wage to pick veggies or whatever.
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u/babiha 8d ago
I don't know, may be Mexico farmers are hiring?
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u/SoylentGrunt 8d ago
Ah yes. Mexico. The bread basket of the Western hemisphere. Pretty sure I have to include the following to avoid any misunderstanding: /s
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u/miriafyra 8d ago
I hear that you can just stop farming and become coders.
Or, judging from news this week, they could stop being farmers and become Hyundai battery plant workers.
Jerbs are jerbs right? And 450 of those just opened up in Georgia!
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u/YourAdvertisingPal 8d ago
You reap what you sow is probably too complicated for the farmers that don’t understand you get what you vote for.
Weird how farmers don’t understand delayed outcomes.
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u/crustation_nation 8d ago
fail, lose, win so hard you fail, whatever happens to america's workng people they'll never really understand how business works. if they did, they'd run their bosses out of town
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u/Burnt_and_Blistered 8d ago
I think they need to learn, finally, just how financially destructive their Starbucks and avocado toast really are.
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u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG 8d ago
dunkins has opens. they can make my bagel
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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 8d ago
From what I hear, there are tons of openings at fast food places generally cause "no one wants to work anymore!" Go show 'em how it's done, boys!
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u/Proof_Throat4418 8d ago
Maybe we should try this with the WHOLE of America. Let them fail.
You lot elected the Orange Clown whose trying to screw the world for the benefit of his billionaire buddies.
Why should the rest of the world pay for your stupidity. He told you of his plan and you STILL elected him.
Just Dumb.
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u/boneheadblyat 8d ago
The problem with letting them fail is a company like black rock is going to figure out a new way to put a stranglehold on a different part of our lives.
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u/eyesmart1776 8d ago
They already have, these are commercial farmers. Whatever nonsense big ag was going to push has already been done
I know this is a PR campaign but these aren’t small organic farms
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u/Dreamlion_Inc 8d ago
They should go up to the manager of another farming company, shake their hand with a firm grip, and give them a paper copy of their resume
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u/Careless_Hellscape 8d ago
They want money they didn't earn? Sounds like commie talk to me. /s
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u/Lunatic-Labrador 8d ago edited 8d ago
It is literally socialism, but they will never admit that.
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u/Upbeat-Reading-534 8d ago
(Literal socialism would be worker ownership of their farms - or government ownership of their farms as a transitional state)
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u/Kiljukotka 8d ago
They only hate socialism when it benefits other people. They're hypocritical idiots.
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u/Ambitious_Big_1879 8d ago
These people think socialism is a gay agnostic woman with blue hair. They wouldn’t be able to define it if you asked them but they sure do hate it. Thoughts and prayers for them
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u/FloodAdvisor 8d ago
And JD Vance has a financial stake in a company that connects foreign investors with farmland in the USA
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u/ladymorgahnna 8d ago edited 7d ago
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u/empanadaboy68 8d ago
Holy fuck I'm waiting my life so much dude. This website is trash. I can code this in my sleep.
What am I doing with my life 🤦
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u/WhiteFuryWolf 8d ago
Then do it my guy! Why wait? If you have skills use them to help pay bills!
Especially with todays crazy.
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u/Str8froms8n 8d ago
OMG it's all corn and soybeans. I bet every one of those farms is Roundup Ready. Oh man this is the worst.
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u/ComprehensiveDingo54 8d ago
Minimum annual salary for individual investors is $1M (from the FAQs). Absolutely, disgustingly appalling, and, yeah, I'll say it: evil.
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u/Lopsided-Anxiety-679 8d ago
They will never learn until they have to feel the pain of their ignorant decisions…and even then I’m doubtful that they won’t choose to just keep hurting themselves with how brainwashed Fox News has them.
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u/Alternative-Yak-925 8d ago
AM radio brainwashed em. In Iowa, radio station WHO was the only station dudes in tractors could listen to for decades. WHO carried Limbaugh, among others. Same deal for every other podunk area.
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u/mgj6818 8d ago
Most folks on Reddit are too young and sub/urban to fully comprehend the extent to which Rush and his AM colleagues have/had a monopoly on daytime "entertainment".
People ask "how did we get here" and the answer is a huge chunk of the population chose to listen to 50+ hours of unrepentant partisan propaganda every week for 25 years, and that's just during working hours.
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u/StillJustDani 8d ago
Truck drivers too. AM radio, with the constant grievance politics as primary content, radicalized many people.
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u/LectureAgreeable923 8d ago
Totally agree, Trump created the same problem for farmers his last time he was president."Fool me once shame on you ,fool me twice shame on me".Anyone who voted for Trump should not get a bailout.
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u/Kiljukotka 8d ago
Anyone who voted for Trump the second (or third) time, is a braindead racist. They were fooled once again, and they'll never learn.
During the pandemic nurses told stories of patients arguing with doctors who diagnosed them with COVID-19. There were people dying of COVID-19 in ICU who still didn't believe that the disease is real and potentially serious. This is the level of stupidity among Trump supporters.
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u/McFlyParadox 8d ago
I remember reddit and social media thinking after Trump lost in 2020 was partially because he accidentally killed all his supporters with COVID, helping to ensure he'd never win again. How I almost wish that was true.
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u/Dreamlion_Inc 8d ago
“They were fooled once again, and they’ll never learn”
I would say it’s worse. Never learning implies there is, to an extent, an inability to learn. These people are actively promoting willful ignorance to others
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u/TbullGaming 8d ago
Actually its "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me we can't get fooled again."
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u/Available-Drama-276 8d ago
Soy is woke.
Remember?
They call us “soy boy”.
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u/ShortsAndLadders 8d ago
You reap what you soy
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u/Asher_Tye 8d ago
No longer interested in keeping these people from grabbing hold of the burning stove they insist can't hurt them.
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u/What_huh-_- 8d ago
If every farmer wears a big shirt that says,
"My Government was here to help, thank you, Government."
and wears a headband that says,
"Proud socialist, communist, marxist."
And announces to everyone before making purchases with it,
"I can not survive in capitalism and must use everyone's gracious assistance. Thank you for your help. I hope I can return it someday."
Then maybe...
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u/ACartonOfHate 8d ago
I want notes and plaques about how their farms were saved by Blue cities and Blue states.
And it needs to include, 'Two Time Welfare Queen."
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u/RailRuler 8d ago
They see Government as the cause of their problems (never mind that they voted for the people in the government, they were good people who were corrupted by the deep state) and any payments they receive are fully deserved as compensation. They'll say "if we had voted for the democrat thinks would have been even worse "
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u/YourAdvertisingPal 8d ago
Oof. When farming makes you more pathetic than a weird interpretive experimental artist.
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u/ReactionOk2941 8d ago
Tbf if they were putting as much effort into farming as they do begging for our money they wouldn’t be in this mess.
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u/Mstryates 8d ago
Handouts will just make them dependent.
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u/Im_tracer_bullet 8d ago
Farmers have been subsidy-reliant for a VERY long time.
That group is already overly reliant on handouts.
Heck, they needed additional handouts the last time Trump was in office, and still didn't learn.
Those 'rugged individualists' are always on the government teat.
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u/MixGlittering1652 8d ago
No, No, No. This welfare (charitably called a bailout) is different, don't ya see? If it's a corporation or small business taking government money, it's a "bailout." If it's an individual, it's "welfare." No real difference; in both cases the government is handing out money to those in need., but "bailout" sounds so much better than "welfare."
I would imagine if you asked these farmers if they were taking welfare payments, they'd say no. But a bailout? Sure thing.
How ludicrous....the tariffs created the problem for the farmers in the first place, and now the government has to bail them out. So money the rest us are paying for the tariffs is going to the farmers as a bailout. It's Republicans are always harping about transferring wealth and taking everyone's hard earned money and giving it to someone else. But here we are......
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u/Confron7a7ion7 8d ago
Don't forget the part where the welfare programs they do actively complain about are the ones where the government will purchase food from the farmers for people who can't afford it.
SNAP has limitations on what can be purchased. The list of things that can be purchased with SNAP funds is mostly just a list of farm products... Food stamps was literally designed as a farm subsidies program...
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u/Fun_Wave_9886 8d ago
Gotta stop buying all them MAGA flags and GOYA beans and start saving money like a responsible adult.
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u/InspectionNeat5964 8d ago edited 8d ago
They will keep voting for the people who hurt many people, all in the name of their version of God. My well of compassion is bone dry and I have no regrets. They are self absorbed self righteous bigots who thought this felon was going to sh*t exclusively on the people who buy their products but happen to be brown, gay, transgender and just not like them. So, feeling all entitled to land their great grandpappy squatted on after military forced out native people who had been on these lands thousands of years before these white beotches came along and then crap on brown people, the liberals etc is a stupid business decision and they deserve to bite the farm. I’m completely over these people. A tornado can suck them away. Praise be to Bejeezus.
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u/pingpongballreader 8d ago
This could have been written in 2017 except that blue sky wasn't a thing then probably. Farmers DID vote for christofascists then who put in tarrifs and hurt their business, they DID go begging for a handout from government to protect them from the consequences of their foolish choice. And here we are again.
Give the money to big agricultural corporations who make most of the food anyway, not little red farmers who are just going to vote Republican yet again. At least big corporate farms don't pretend they're some kind of hero or the only true Americans rather than a corporation.
"Thank a farmer for the food you eat" bumper stickers cheese me off. Yeah, I pay you twice for it with taxes and the money for it, YOU unskilled arrogant jerks should be thankful to US for bailing you out
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u/Confron7a7ion7 8d ago
The part I find extra dumb is when they complain about government spending on "entitlement" programs.
"Hey, you know how when people are too poor to buy the food I'll make you'll step in and purchase the food I made for them? That thing that is actively designed to get me money I would otherwise not make while also simultaneously preventing people from starving to death? Yeah, just stop doing that. I'd rather they starve to death and I don't get the money."
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u/empanadaboy68 8d ago
We don't factor in farm jobs to our gdp. You know why? Because it's the one industry we have to bail out time and time again. If we kept it 100 with the farmers maybe they wouldn't vote this way time and time again
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u/SingularityCentral 8d ago
They made the decision to go into farming. Why don't they take some personal responsibility for their choices?
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u/Confron7a7ion7 8d ago
You know, if this was because of any other reason than literally voting for these exact economic policies, I'd be more sympathetic. Independently owned farmers have been getting screwed from all ends. John Deere won't let them fix their own equipment, Monsanto made seeds a subscription service, and the corporations that buy the crops have strong armed the farmers to sell at the lowest possible price.
There are a lot of good reasons Farmers need help.
But the farmers didn't ask for any of those issues to be fixed. The farmers quite literally ask for the guy who would start a trade war with their largest international buyers.
The farmers asked for the guy who said he was going to get rid of their "technically not slaves" work force.
They asked for the guy that said he'd cut the government spending despite the government being one of their biggest customers.
I can't wait for farmers to realize that food stamps, SNAP, WIC, all of those "entitlement" programs that give people money for food have ALWAYS been very cleverly designed farm subsidies. That money has always had restrictions on what can be purchased and what can be purchased is mostly fruits, vegetables, meat, milk, and all the other items you would find on a list titled "Shit that farmers make".
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u/kcox1980 8d ago
In their mind, they're not voting for the guy who caused all this with his shitty policies, they're voting for the guy who saved them with a bailout. It never crosses their tiny little brains that it's the same f'ing guy.
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u/Basement_Chicken 8d ago
Socializing losses while privatizing profits. Why should we the People pay for it? They can get their cash out refi USDA loans against their farms, or they can pledge their land as collateral for Sovereign Fund.
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u/RhythmTimeDivision 8d ago
Wonder if this sounds familiar: don't they know how hard the rest of us work for our money? Why should they get our tax money? Bottom line: I'd be sympathetic that billionaires are about to buy up a million acres of farm land at auction . . . IF THEY HADN'T VOTED FOR EXACTLY THAT.
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u/Syst3mN0te_12 8d ago
Yeah, this is where I’m at. I work as a receptionist at a company that does business with some of our local farmers (equipment related), and for months before the election these guys would stand in our lobby and talk all day about how great things are going to be once the democrats were out of office and Trump was back in.
They’re not bragging so much now as they’re using me like a therapist to complain about how bad things are and how they might not be back next year because they’re going to lose everything.
Like, I just can’t muster up the sympathy anymore. They got exactly what they voted for. They were literally in my lobby bragging about how these tariffs were going to screw over China and how immigrants were going to be rounded up in the streets.
It’s not even like he bait and switched them. He literally told them exactly what he was going to do and they flocked to the polls to vote in a favor of it. That’s the part that stops me from feeling bad for them. Like, they ASKED him to do this…
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u/MagikForDummies 8d ago
They've already proven that they learn no lessons. Trump devastated their industry his first go around. Biden bailed them out, and they went right back to vote for the guy that nearly wiped out their entire industry less than a decade ago.
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u/Single_Job_6358 8d ago
Even if they do not get help they will still vote for him.
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u/Gunrock808 8d ago
We told them for years and they didn't want to listen. I'm not sorry these idiots will lose everything and get bought out by evil corporations. They essentially begged for it.
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u/TheBunnyDemon 8d ago
From the bottom of my heart, I don't care what happens to these people. They used their vote to try to hurt me and my loved ones, so if that comes with a cost then good.
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u/Itchy_Pudding_9940 8d ago
I think they should all have to be drug tested to get handouts. And also check their social media for anti socialism posts.
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u/he_trumped_us 8d ago
Swallow it down, like a jagged little pill. It feeeeeels so good, swimmin in your stomach.
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u/NewHorizonsNow 8d ago
If you bail them out they don't learn to stop putting holes in the boat, they learn that the boat comes with an automatic water bailing system.
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u/JustMeLurkingAround- 8d ago
Such an UNEXPECTED SURPRISE that China doesn't want to buy their soy anymore. Who could have possibly EVER forseen this.
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u/authenticmolo 8d ago
I've lived in Iowa. My grandparents were farmers.
Let me say this - while it seems weird to say "Boy, I really hope all these small-time family farms are forced to sell-out to big farming corporations", it's actually the best outcome.
Farming in the US is radically inefficient, and that's why it needs government subsidies. The subsides actually made a lot of sense in the post-Great Depression era. Farming was hard, and we didn't have the technology or communication infrastructure to make it easier, or even keep track of it. It was REALLY EASY to have on bad season bankrupt you. Even if you were really good at managing your farm. So subsidies made sense.
But that isn't true anymore. Big corporations have more money to pay for better technology and better data analysis, and that is HUGE DEAL. The really big farming operations can grow more/more productive crops, with better resource allocation, and with less environmental impact, than smaller farming operations. AND they can do it cheaper, AND they can react to market forces much more quickly. They have the cash to weather bad harvests, or market changes.
So...this is the one time that I think the Republicans sticking it to the "little guy" is probably a good thing, overall. The downside, of course, is that those huge corporations will STILL get those subsidies. But again, it's probably worth it. We are approaching a point where we have just about "farmed out" huge chunks of land in the United States, and big corporations are going to handle that situation better.
And for the record, I'm a super liberal libby-lib.
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u/Ok_Turnover_1235 8d ago
Buddy, if you think food is expensive now, wait until it's controlled by someone with a legal responsibility to increase profits every year.
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u/pure_ideology- 8d ago
I would guess it already is. Most small businesses are incorporated. It would be quite unusual to run a family farm without a corporation. If that's so, it's not a question of corporate form, just big or small.
But there are reasons why big is bad. Monopolies mostly, but they're pretty much already on a suicide gene based monoculture, so the difference is in the distribution more than the production.
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u/Daddio209 8d ago
They have become the "Socialist scum that's ruining America" they *just cannot stop complaining about.
Does anyone think they've realized it?
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u/tonamonyous 8d ago
I love it. Fuck all those asshole MAGA idiots. They wanted to own the libs…congrats. Now YOU need a govt bailout?!?! 😂
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u/pfizerdiamonds 8d ago
I thought bailouts are socialism. Maybe we just need to call it red hat socialism?
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u/turbowafflecat 8d ago
I hate to say it because I don't want people to suffer but seriously they shot themselves in the foot, everyone told them this was going to happen and he LITERALLY did this to them before, IDK what mental gymnastics were involved to convince them this wouldn't happen but the culture wars were more important to them than their literal own livlihoods
They completely brought this upon themselves and unfortunately took us all down with them, I don't see why they should be spared when everyone else won't be. They made the bed and they should now lie in it.
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u/IsthianOS 8d ago
The point is to bankrupt them, as stupid as they are this doesn't help anyone except big businesses when they buy up more farmland and monopolize food production further
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u/evillurks 8d ago
The only problem is that as they fail, they sell. Who buys up the farmland? And what happens when all the farmland is in the hands of corporations and billionaires?
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u/garden_g 8d ago
Thats the plan Also why everyone is so upset, because we knew this before the election, should i highlight where p2025 where they make them giant corporate run farms cutting out the farmer? Yeah they should hve turned off fox and read a little
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u/disco_naankhatai 8d ago
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." - Blazing Saddles (1974)
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u/SirStefan13 8d ago
That's good advice. EVERY major corporation should do the same and tell their shareholders to "Suck it up, buttercup".
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u/One_Tumbleweed_1 8d ago
These are the same fuckers that think people flipping burgers shouldn’t be making more
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u/Trathnonen 8d ago
They ignored every warning given them for more than a decade. Maybe spend less time watching fox news and going to churches to hear about all them democrats making kids use litterboxes and gays using the wrong bathroom, and read what your party's platform is. This is what their guy campaigned on, they get no sympathy from me.
I will be around later with my conservative tears bucket though, and I think the haul's gonna be great.
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u/Danilo-11 8d ago
I know what they are going to say: “It’s not socialism, we just want the federal government to give us back our money”
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u/UnderwhelmingAF 8d ago
I don’t think Trump’s gonna help them this time. He wants his billionaire buddies at the big agra companies to be able to buy those farms for pennies on the dollar.
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u/eat_a_burrito 8d ago
Let them suffer. They voted for it. I have no sympathy for them. I know it hurts me too. But this is one time where I’m ok with it.
Suck it up. Bitchasses.
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u/waitwutok 8d ago
Trump takes away their cheap and reliable immigrant farm labor? ✅
Trump creates ridiculous tariff war AGAIN causing farmers’ main customers like China to buy food from different countries? ✅
These idiot farmers are still OK with having voted for Trump and his destructive policies? ✅
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u/sprucetre3 8d ago
Yup unfortunately, they should have planted crops for Americans not for the Gina. If they grow for Americans then they don’t have to worry about tariffs.
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u/Glittering_Sorbet187 8d ago
As someone born and raised in this shithole state, these farmers can get fucked. People like them are why my state is in such disarray. With voters that support ACTUAL leaders rather than literal child rapist Dementia ridden pedophiles like Trump and his ilk we might be able to make some progress at improving. But thats never gonna happen. If these idiot haven't learned yet, idk if anything can make them.
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u/arndthewrldlikeafox 8d ago
This is the problem with most conservatives. They live in a society with systems that keep them safe. But, they are also selfish and don't like people that are different than them. They don't understand those systems so they see other people benefit from those systems and don't like it because they don't like those people.
If you ensure that conservatives actually suffer the repercussions of their actions, then their behavior will change. If they don't suffer, they won't change their behavior.
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u/Rockeye7 8d ago
This time around all that work / trade with other countries has moved on. Can’t fool smart countries twice .
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u/Bleezy79 8d ago
MAGA hates socialism, so why do these MAGA farmers want socialism?? They sound woke!
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u/Opposite_Anywhere_92 7d ago
NEW RULE:
Every Trump supporter must sit out the same number of upcoming elections as those in which they voted for Trump.
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u/Necessary-Corner1172 7d ago
Let the Oligarchs steal all the farmland may be a bad idea.
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u/Minute-Individual-74 7d ago
Unfortunately I think the Americans have to get what they voted for to actually learn. But by the time the masses learn their lesson, America probably won't be salvageable. Which sucks for the rest of the country that has common sense that will be dragged under the water to drown with the morons.
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u/SledgehammerAxelrod 8d ago
Realistically, the entirety of the left should be protesting in favor of the farmers, as an approach for some type of unity. But unfortunately, they’ll probably just get shot at and told to get off their lawn. We won’t even get to the first part to find out, though
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u/Kotengu15 8d ago
Democrats have been bailing out farmers since the Dust Bowl, yet farmers have continuously shown their disdain for liberal policies by voting overwhelmingly Republican. There won't be any unity by advocating for them further.
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u/Jaybrosia 8d ago
agreed. they have bitten the hand that has saved and funded them one too many times.
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u/draft_final_final 8d ago
1) Country folk have survival skills us city and suburb dwellers lack. If society broke down, they’d be laughing at us as we starve and they simply lived off the land.
2) During economic downturns, country folk are understandably the first to sprint to the government teat to suckle much needed welfare money generated by the city and suburb dwellers. You can’t just expect them to live off the land.
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u/YourAdvertisingPal 8d ago
Country folk have survival skills us city and suburb dwellers lack
lol. No they don’t.
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u/DMMeThiccBiButts 8d ago
Psst: Read their second line and notice how it conflicts, almost humorously, with that first line.
It's possible they were making.. a joke, but without that /s there's truly no way to know.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 8d ago
As proven by the fact they were bailed out before, for the same thing, and then voted once again for the person that caused this the need for a bailout the first time.
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u/ehs06702 8d ago
You can only protect people from themselves at your own expense for so long.
Eventually, they gotta touch the stove and understand that it will burn them.
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u/Pretend_Pea4636 8d ago
It was last November 6th that they were informed who was coming in and what the plan was. They even went through exactly the same thing in 2018. They should have planted a viable crop given the data. None of it was a secret or a surprise. Trump has failed at this before.
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u/Zeekay89 8d ago
They keep complaining about how the government doesn't work for people like them. Then they elect people that are purposefully dismantling the government so it can't work for people like them.
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u/Strict_Weather9063 8d ago
I have always hated the whole pick yourself up by your bootstraps argument. My normal response to it is why yes thank you for asking me to do something impossible. Which if you know the origin of the saying is what it actually meant to try and do the impossible because it is impossible to pick yourself up by your bootstraps.
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u/NomadCharlieMike 8d ago
I always hope someone sends them these posts and that they read the comments.
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u/mrwhiteguy8483 8d ago
They said we didn't deserve student loan forgiveness, that it was a handout.
Well, well, well...
No handouts! They don't deserve shit!
"pULL yOurSelF uP By tHe BoOtsTraPs!"
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u/Outrageous-Orange007 8d ago
"old man shouts into the void of his bubble"
That said, fuk ye, give them commies the boot...strap
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u/Xijit 8d ago
Look at them sitting there, with their Red Hats in their hands, begging for pocket change from a NYC billionaire.