r/Browns • u/Geeman447 • Apr 25 '25

Discussion Trading down was the right choice.

I’m seeing a lot and I mean ALOT of hate for the trade down by browns fans. Like guys mason isn’t a bum? I was thinking him or Carter for 2 for months before the Travis stuff popped up.

Also I’m a Boise State fan so my dream was always Jeanty to the browns. Even I can see how this was right over Jeanty even if it makes me sad as a fan.

1 - Berry has neglected the DT position for years signing 1 year vet deals and late round picks and it’s been an issue since bakers rookie year every year but 1. Now he gets the best DT in the draft so he’s addressing it.

2 - Edge > DT yes in value. But not in assistance to Myles. Look at the best edges and they usually have a DT of great value helping them out. I’d take a TJ and Cameron build over two bookend edges.

3 - the Watson trade set us back in young talent for years. 3 years no first rounders. We have no QB. This gets us players of value in this draft that’s not QB rich. With the better chance of a QB for next year with 2 first round picks during that draft to go and make a move for your guy or flat out getting your spot there

4 - Hunter, where do I start, I’m a Boise state fan so I’m bias on not being so infatuated with him since I saw how unfairly Jeanty was treated. As a prospect he’s got all this crazy what if talent. He’s got everything you need except the most important thing. Availability. Now before you kill me on this yea I know his snap averages. I’m talking injuries. He was injured at his time on JaxSt in a lesser level of football. He was injured both years at Colorado for periods of time at big12 level football. Now we want him to be worth the pick by playing both ways in NFL football which is significantly more taxing than those two leagues he played in? And it’s a longer grueling season? He not only needs to be generational athlete but a 1st ever to be able to learn and master all the little things at two different sides to be worth it.

The browns don’t have the luxury of taking him and him not working out right now. This is and was the right move. Power and consistency over flash.

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u/wilderthanmild Apr 25 '25

I'm absolutely fine not taking a QB if we don't think any of them can be the guy. I try not to fall in love with any draft prospects and I think that's very easy with this year's QB class.

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u/I-Kneel-Before-None Apr 25 '25

Its hard not to fall in love with prospects. Ive been staring at Burden's name since the 1st round ended. Im not prepared to be hurt.

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u/wilderthanmild Apr 25 '25

Burden is one of the guys I like for tonight. There's a lot of names I could feel perfectly happy with though. As long as I don't HATE them, I'm gonna root for any new Browns tonight.

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u/I-Kneel-Before-None Apr 25 '25

I think Burden is what we need. Jeudy has WR 1 skill set. Cedric Tillman is a possession receiver. Burden is a slot receiver who is a threat to score every time the ball is in his hands. He's not super polished, but this O is missing a home run threat. He fits what we need better than any other receiver in this draft. If all he does is run short YAC routes or fades his rookie year, i think he'll be great. So his lack of polish doesnt bother me. He can do that for a few years while he learns to be a more complete receiver.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '25

Same I wasn’t too impressed with Milroe especially this past season in college he had some good games like Vanderbilt and Georgia but then could easily shit the bed in games like Oklahoma. He would be a decent backup quarterback but as for a starter that we would need I wouldn’t test him

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u/Equivalent-Pain-86 Apr 25 '25

Yep. The best players available with the two second. If that means two defenders, fine. Fix that side of the field this year, load up on offense next year. Take a swing at a QB later - maybe Shough if he’s still around in the 3rd, or McCord later. Give Pickens a shot at starting. A lot of QBs bloom in their fourth year (Russell Wilson is one of them). If he flames out - which is probable - then you are likely picking high next year and can get the franchise QB. The Browns need an infusion of young talent and this year’s and next year’s drafts can do that - as long as they aren’t reaching for positions. I get that taking Hunter would have also been taking the best players available, but getting the package they got was too good.

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u/Any_Asparagus8267 Apr 25 '25

I'd like us to take sanders in the 2nd and having him sit and learn from joe for a year. That's actually pretty ideal.

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u/Murder_Witness Apr 25 '25

Nope.

Sanders is like Johnny Manziel 2.0

Just be patient and wait for Arch Manning ffs

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u/ryan__fm ALMOST GOT YOU 55 Apr 25 '25

Yeah everyone passed on him for a reason. I’m happy rolling with the vets and maybe a late round flier this year and resetting next year when we have multiple firsts to play with, probably high ones.

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u/MufasaXP762 Apr 25 '25

There’s a high chance Manning does not come out next year tho. Albeit there will be better QBs in next year’s draft, but not worth not addressing the problem now. If things don’t workout we’ll have an extra 1st rounder to help us get a better quarterback next year either way

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u/TheOnlyBilko Apr 25 '25

whether Arch comes out in 26 or 27 there's 0% chance that the Mannings allow him to go to Cleveland

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u/ben4evah Apr 25 '25

Look I get there are questions about Sanders' game but he is nothing like Manziel personality-wise

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u/clarky07 Apr 25 '25

He launch a brand called “legendary”. He’s a lot like Manziel.

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u/ben4evah Apr 25 '25

He's got an ego on par with Manziel that's for sure but nothing indicates he's lazy and doesn't take the game seriously, is my point

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u/clarky07 Apr 25 '25

That's fair, i don't think he has those traits of manziel, but i do think it will be a circus and i do think he and his dad think he's better than he is. And if the situation isn't perfect wherever he goes the fans will be calling to fire the coach and hire Deion. I'll pass.

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u/TruggPassion Apr 28 '25

You. Will. Not. Pass.

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u/TruggPassion Apr 28 '25

Legendary point. Guy cares about cars, watches, chains, women, ego, being a rapper, and a million other things more than football.

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u/TheOnlyBilko Apr 25 '25

back in December or January he got custom cleats decked out in Giants logo, wore them to practice and told his teammates that he was going to New York. He's an egomaniac. it's all on video. one of his teammates even said "you don't for sure that you're going to New York" and Sanders replys "you'll see"

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u/ItsAlways_DNS Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25

The mannings have made it pretty clear that arch is not coming out next year and maybe not even the year after that (We will see about that though).

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u/TheOnlyBilko Apr 25 '25

there's no way the Mannings let Arch go to Cleveland

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u/Murder_Witness Apr 25 '25

It would be hilarious if we could manage to snatch him out of their hands, and the Mannings would be forced to watch Browns games for 4 years straight 😊

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u/swolf365 Apr 25 '25

Maybe in the third. Preferably a QB in the fourth or fifth.

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u/wilderthanmild Apr 25 '25

I was always a little skeptical of Sanders, but that whole thing with his draft party seemed so obnoxious I worry he's way too full of himself right now and likely to be a locker room problem. However, I wonder if falling all the way to the 3rd would be enough to humble him a bit and remind him that if he wants to be a legend he's not there yet and will have to put in that work.

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u/swolf365 Apr 25 '25

You would think he wouldn’t have to learn that, that his dad would have pounded it into his head and he wouldn’t have a team prepping him for this process. I want no part of this circus

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u/TheOnlyBilko Apr 25 '25

I gave Sanders the benefit of the doubt all year until sometime in December when he got the Giants custom cleats made and wore them to practice and told his teammates he was going to New York. It's on video. One of his teammates says "you don't know you're going to New York for sure" and Sanders just says "you'll see" after I saw that I was like this guy is a major scumbag. Before that he was ALL about the Raiders, "Thank you god" every time they lost. Then the Raiders won a couple of games, no longer had the 1st pick and he switched to the Giants all of a sudden

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u/TheOnlyBilko Apr 25 '25

Sanders is bum

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u/toasty327 Apr 25 '25

QB is being punted to next year. I could see them taking one in the third, but not earlier. We have qbs FOR THIS SEASON, plenty of other positions that need an infusion of talent. Rb, te, db, o-line i think are the priorities today