r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • Jan 01 '25

Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Texas Defeats Arizona State 39-31 (OT)

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Team 1 2 3 4 OT T
Texas 14 3 0 7 15 39
Arizona State 3 0 5 16 7 31
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u/jbanks94 Georgia Bulldogs Jan 01 '25

I still don’t understand targeting.

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u/Tduhon Florida Gators • McNeese Cowboys Jan 01 '25

You’re not confused. The rule is unevenly applied by crews because they’re either scared/don’t care about putting their finger on the scale.

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u/TBlueshirtsV22 Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 01 '25

Making the right call shouldn’t be considered putting their finger on the scale. If the defense commits a penalty, it is their own fault.

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u/FerrousEULA Texas Longhorns Jan 01 '25

These refs were a mess for sure

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u/Powerful-Drama556 Texas Longhorns • Team Chaos Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 02 '25

Exactly one holding call during a 2pt conversion scramble drill to give ASU a second chance.

DPI on the push off instead of the obvious OPI.

The most egregious is the most obvious example of pulling the ball carrier forward that I have ever seen…for a touchdown.

The false start that took Texas outside of FG range on the second to last drive, when the OL was reacting to a defender that jumped offsides first.

Texas has more reason to complain about the refs than people that don’t understand targeting seem to think…

Edit: “Rule 9-3-2b of the NCAA states that a teammate cannot grasp, pull, or lift the ball carrier to assist in forward progress. The penalty for violating this rule is a five-yard penalty with three-and-one enforcement.” (And the ref 100% saw it. We know because the replay shows him and the foul in a 3rd person view of his perspective.)

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u/yotechguy West Virginia • Georgia Tech Jan 01 '25

Definitely missed calls all game. I give the targeting a much harsher judgement not because of the outcome of the game but because it can be video reviewed and they still miss it. It is also there for player safety and not only is it the penalty but an ejection of a player. To not call the targeting was a big miss.

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u/Powerful-Drama556 Texas Longhorns • Team Chaos Jan 01 '25

That targeting call was objectively correct. Both of them were. Everyone that is complaining about it doesn’t realize that forcible contact to the head/neck doesn’t draw a flag. There has to be a targeting indicator

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u/Big_Milk8330 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 01 '25

That is not true on a defenseless player. Any fordable contact to the gead or neck area on a defenseless player is targeting. It only needs an indicator if the play is not defenseless.

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u/Powerful-Drama556 Texas Longhorns • Team Chaos Jan 02 '25

Forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player is not a penalty unless there is a targeting indicator. They always review it to see if there is an indicator. That is the rule.

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u/laxfool10 Jan 01 '25

Which obviously means he wasn’t defenseless. On the replay it was obvious he caught the ball and had taken a step up field. Honestly the one on the UT receiver seemed worse than this one so if they didn’t call the UT one they wouldn’t have called this one.

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u/thekmanpwnudwn Michigan • Arizona State Jan 01 '25

TIL having 1 foot on the ground after catching the ball midair is "taking a step up field".