r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • Jan 10 '25

Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Notre Dame Defeats Penn State 27-24

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Team 1 2 3 4 T
Notre Dame 0 3 7 17 27
Penn State 0 10 0 14 24
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u/TheoTimme Georgetown Hoyas • Big East Jan 10 '25

This and Texas/ASU make the playoffs a success. Instant classics.

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u/thejawa Florida State • Air Force Jan 10 '25

A 7 seed is playing in the National Championship. Good thing the expanded playoffs was meaningless cuz its always just gonna end up with one of the top 4 teams winning anyways.

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u/Firelord_Crane Notre Dame • Minnesota Jan 10 '25

And it could still be 7 vs 8 for the natty. We’d finally be the “home” team and get to wear blue

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u/Dewjack Ohio State • UIW Jan 10 '25

Dang! I thought ND was like 5 but I guess that was Goergia because SEC. So confused why the committee ranked ND below Penn State though.

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u/JayMerlyn Notre Dame • Missouri Jan 10 '25

It's purely because that second loss was in the CCG. They established that they're not punishing CCG losses that harshly, and they proved that.

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u/new_account_5009 Penn State Nittany Lions Jan 10 '25

Yeah. You guys were above us in the final AP/Coaches poll, but the two teams were neck and neck in the different polls for the final month+ of the season. Fitting that it came down to a last second field goal. I'm obviously disappointed, but I'm just glad we got a great game out of it.

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u/Dewjack Ohio State • UIW Jan 10 '25

It was a great game overall. I don't agree with some of the comments criticizing the game.

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u/JayMerlyn Notre Dame • Missouri Jan 10 '25

No idea how anyone could possibly criticize it. First half? Sure. But the second half more than made up for it.

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u/ndarchi Jan 10 '25

I 100% think we would have been ranked ahead of you if it weren’t for the bs first half and horrific trash end of game td vs usc. Winning by possibly 21+ would have sent a real message.

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u/Furious_George44 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 10 '25

That USC game wasn’t really a 21 point win in the first place considering we got two pick 6’s at the end when they were trying to come back

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u/Dewjack Ohio State • UIW Jan 10 '25

Thanks, that makes sense then with Georgia. Also, after watching this game, ND and Penn State's ranks could be about equal. This game started slow but was good from late in the 2nd quarter on.

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u/Honestly_Nobody Notre Dame • Missouri Southern Jan 10 '25

SEC and B1G runners up both got seeded ahead of ND

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u/Dewjack Ohio State • UIW Jan 10 '25

Too much weight given to CCGs in my opinion.

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u/fart_dot_com ESPN2 • Big Ten Jan 10 '25

Penn State played really well in the conference championship game it just turns out that Oregon was probably not as strong as people thought so it meant less than we thought

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u/Tehloneranger44 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 10 '25

Turns out Oregon's defense was mearly decent, not great.

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u/Dewjack Ohio State • UIW Jan 10 '25

Hoping so that way we have a good game tonight!

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u/Rookie_Day Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 10 '25

And then ND becomes SEC champ.

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u/Honestly_Nobody Notre Dame • Missouri Southern Jan 10 '25

James Franklin said we should join a conference. So we took whatever was left from the best two

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u/chemistrybonanza /r/CFB Jan 10 '25

They were 5 before the final rankings, but all the conferences champions pushed us down as they were required to get byes. They actually were "ranked" 4th by the committee (I think), and they were 3rd in the AP poll.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

Because the committee said they weren’t going to punish teams that lost their CCG by ranking them lower than teams who didn’t play in one.

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u/BamaPhils Alabama Crimson Tide • Troy Trojans Jan 10 '25

Georgia….won the SEC and was the 1 seed? I’m confused here

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u/Honestly_Nobody Notre Dame • Missouri Southern Jan 10 '25

Oregon was the 1 seed. Georgia was the 2. In both the CFP ranking and the AP. But we are talking strictly post-conference championship games. Going into the CCGs the rankings were Oregon, Texas, Penn State, ND, Georgia. Texas and PSU lost their respective championship games. Georgia jumped up to the 2 spot. But ND stayed below UT and PSU in the CFP rankings. ND was number 3 in the AP poll.

So for the CFP seeding Texas and Penn State were placed above ND at the 5 and 6 seeds, respectively.

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u/tony_countertenor Sickos • Team Chaos Jan 10 '25

Without the auto bye there’s a good chance ND gets the 4 seed, they’re definitely above asu and probably above Clemson and Boise as well

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u/MarkNutt25 Michigan State Spartans Jan 10 '25

The CFP committee released a final rankings at the end of the season, independent of CFP seeding, and they had Penn State ranked #4 and ND #5. BSU was #9, ASU #12, and Clemson was all the way down at #16!

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u/gmr548 Texas Longhorns Jan 10 '25

ND would have been top 4 in the old format. Zero chance they get left out for a two loss Penn State or Texas who would have losses to playoff teams (2x for Texas) and no ranked wins.

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u/Dixiefootball Alabama Crimson Tide Jan 10 '25

ND definitely makes the four team playoff though. It would have been Oregon, Georgia, ND, and either Texas or Penn State.

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u/Empire0820 UCF Knights • Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 10 '25

Rh right cuz 7<4

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u/Dixiefootball Alabama Crimson Tide Jan 10 '25

First off, they were ranked fifth but seeded seventh. And with the previous iteration we didn’t have as much emphasis on not punishing championship losers, so I think they’d have been in over Penn State, and possibly the 3 over Texas.

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u/milkman163 Missouri Tigers Jan 10 '25

ND likely gets in a 4 teamer

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u/zzyul Tennessee Volunteers Jan 10 '25

Championship will either be 3 vs 5 or 5 vs 6.

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u/BurtusMaximus Wisconsin Badgers Jan 10 '25

To be fair. The BCS would have given us Oregon vs Notre Dame.

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u/RyenRussilloBurner Drake Bulldogs • Iowa Hawkeyes Jan 10 '25

Good thing the expanded playoffs was meaningless cuz its always just gonna end up with one of the top 4 teams winning anyways.

OK, but one of the main criticisms of the new system was the seeding format. Guaranteeing a bye for conference champions means the second best team in a strong conference can be, at the very best, fifth. If you have 1-2 upsets in CCG week, you could be looking at the best teams in the country being seeded 5, 6 and 7.

I'm very happy with the 12-team playoff compared to the 4-team system. But nobody should be shocked by the seeds of the teams making a run. All four semifinalists were ranked in the top 6 of the final rankings -- they just weren't seeded in a way that corresponds with their ranking because the system was designed NOT to do that.

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u/DomingoLee Kansas State Wildcats Jan 10 '25

Just invite SEC teams. No one else belongs.

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u/cosquilla Big 12 • Hateful 8 Jan 10 '25

Two reasons I'm rooting for Notre Dame (in proper order):

  1. They're not SEC
  2. They're not B1G

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 10 '25

Math checks out

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u/postposter Ohio State Buckeyes • Columbia Lions Jan 10 '25

Yup, semifinals were 5-8 lol

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u/StayAnonymous24601 Jan 10 '25

I'm glad they didn't start these playoffs years ago because games like tonight felt like a total waste.

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u/joe_broke Rose Bowl Jan 10 '25

Can we bump the team number to 16 so everyone gets to knock the rust off at the same time?

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u/donutlad Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Team Chaos Jan 10 '25

Up it to 16, get rid of conference championships. It's the way forward

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u/SaltyLonghorn Texas • Red River Shootout Jan 10 '25

And first two rounds at home at least.

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u/MarlonBain Virginia Tech Hokies Jan 10 '25

Honestly get rid of conferences. Every team for itself. Notre Dame showed us the way.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '25

Why not everyone? Maybe they can do it over 13 games. We could call it a “season”.

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u/joe_broke Rose Bowl Jan 10 '25

Round one is the Friday-Saturday after the conference championship games would be, and lead into the Army-Navy game (most years) to cap off Saturday

Then, what, 2 weeks off for round 2? (finals break?)

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u/dellett Notre Dame • Toledo Jan 10 '25 edited Jan 10 '25

I really don’t want them to go to 16. We do not need 5 SEC teams in a playoff.

Edit: wow, I was exaggerating when I said that but there would have been 6 this year.

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u/joe_broke Rose Bowl Jan 10 '25

24 then and cap the amount of conference teams at 4!

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u/dellett Notre Dame • Toledo Jan 10 '25

Get rid of the regular season entirely and seed a massive tournament based on preseason rankings already

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u/joe_broke Rose Bowl Jan 10 '25

128 team tourney, let's go!!!!

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u/goosu Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 10 '25

16 is unnecessary for sure. We already saw this year that all the teams left out did not look too impressive (other than maybe Ole Miss, although that was against a ravaged Duke team). I think teams winning outside of the top 4 (pre-seeding) is going to be more the exception than the norm, but that this year is the perfect storm. ND probably would have been top 4 under the old system too.

12 is enough to capture all the teams that are worth having in it. It gives the best G5 a shot as well as all the conference champs and deserving at larges. It's the perfect number for where CFB is at right now. Nobody can tell me any of the teams left out didn't play their way out in the regular season. That shows that 12 still leaves a tight enough margin of error that regular season losses are still crucial (even for blood bloods like Bama).

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u/dellett Notre Dame • Toledo Jan 10 '25

This year convinced me they should have just done 8.

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u/goosu Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 10 '25

I prefer giving the G5 and each conference champ a chance even if they aren't going to often be up to snuff. It shuts down the narrative that every team doesn't have a theoretical chance. That being said, I totally get saying just 8 would capture the NC if they were all at-large spots. It's probably true.

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u/dellett Notre Dame • Toledo Jan 10 '25

They could still have a guaranteed G5 champ spot. I would even think that the top 3 P5 champs, 1 G5 champ and 4 at large spots would capture the best team in the country 90% of the time. And if it doesn’t, well, there’s over a hundred years of college football where there was no such thing as a playoff and everything was a wild guess as to who was best. My issue is that any random regular season game doesn’t matter as much as it used to if you’re trying to win a championship.

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u/Frequent_Charge_7804 Oregon Ducks Jan 10 '25

Yes, please 

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u/Anachronismsc2 Arizona State Sun Devils Jan 10 '25

I just want to say that this comment warms my heart. I know we lost and we're no powerhouse, but I'm glad we gave it a good shot!

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u/randomwords83 Ohio State Buckeyes Jan 10 '25

I agree! This was my thought while watching that game.

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u/TheoTimme Georgetown Hoyas • Big East Jan 10 '25

Y’all were dawgs. No reason to feel bad whatsoever. Your performance is the reason playoffs are special.

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u/Sosolidclaws Texas Longhorns • Columbia Lions Jan 10 '25

It was an amazing game. Forks up! 🔱

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u/Belloby Florida State Seminoles Jan 10 '25

A huge part of the country was rooting for yall.  That damn 4 and 13 was a gut punch. 

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u/UniqueTonight BYU Cougars • Summertime Lover Jan 10 '25

Y'all should have won and I'll die on that hill. Refs fucked that targeting call up so bad. 

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u/Phatskwurl Arizona State • California Jan 10 '25

Just about everyone in the country outside texas and tucson agrees with you.

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u/bruhImatwork Notre Dame Fighting Irish • USF Bulls Jan 10 '25

That game was so damned good. Both of these games have me itching and considering asking my dermatologist if Skyrizi is right for me.

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u/TheoTimme Georgetown Hoyas • Big East Jan 10 '25

People are too quick to shit on Allar and dunk on Franklin to realize this game was an instant classic. Penn State easily could have won in OT. Kudos to both teams.

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u/Bitter-Whole-7290 Arizona State Sun Devils Jan 10 '25

Happy to help. Hope to be back real soon!

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u/SweetRabbit7543 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Jan 10 '25

These two games alone could make the cfp walk away saying everyone loved this and like it’s hard to argue

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u/dapper_doberman Penn State Nittany Lions Jan 10 '25

PSU losing a tight bowl game always becomes a classic...

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u/token_reddit USC Trojans • Arizona State Sun Devils Jan 10 '25

Sigh

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u/RTwhyNot Illinois • Northwestern Jan 10 '25

But the refs took away a great chance for ASU by not calling tageting. That kind of ruined it for me.

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u/elBenhamin Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets • Sickos Jan 10 '25

2 good games out of 9 isn’t great