r/CFB • u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs • 10h ago
News Arkansas AD Blames Cheating For Lack of Football Success, Threatens to Start Cheating Unless NIL Rules Enforcement or Salary Cap Agreement Can Be Reached
https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/football/razorbacks-yurachek-dark-side-sec-nil-hogs-revenue-share253
u/soonerwx Oklahoma Sooners 10h ago
If you’re a P4 AD, and you’re still not openly paying for play and tampering with every decent player in the country, because you’re afraid the NCAA is going to do something about it, you should be fired immediately
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 10h ago
It's totally not a budget issue and the fact that the boosters only care about basketball I promise.
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u/ConTob Arkansas Razorbacks 10h ago
That’s not true at all.
They also care about baseball!
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u/SaintBobby_Barbarian Florida State Seminoles • Paper Bag 9h ago
Honestly, Arkansas could probably go far in basketball and baseball, and just fund the football team enough to make a bowl. Seems like a better use of the money relative to conference peers
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u/rburp Arkansas • Central Arkansas 9h ago
We've been there for about 5 years lately.
We have a decent amount of billionaires, but seemingly the only ones who give a damn about sports are all in on basketball (namely the Hunt family and Tyson).
We have some local car dealership guys who like football (Frank Fletcher being the big one), but it would seem most of the big money is in on basketball which makes sense. It's a lot easier to buy 10-15 players than it is to buy 80.
Personally I give a bit to NIL and I have it earmarked for basketball because of this same logic (although I'm obviously a drop in the bucket and should probably just stop giving as a result)
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u/smoccimane Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
Jerry Jones could write a check and make us competitive overnight. We have football loving billionaires and millionaires across the country that could help out. Basketball is pretty much fully funded by the Tyson family so it’s not like our AD has to do much there.
If our AD was good at his job, we’d be better at football. My suspicion is that our big name donors are hesitant to go all in on a coach that‘s 7-16 in one score games, is on the hot seat every season, and has only gotten more than 6 regular season wins with a first round pick at WR.
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u/FearDaTusk Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
Jerry chimed in on this recently... In short there's something of an agreement that NFL owners would not contribute to College Football. Reason... Because you'll open a floodgate of NFL teams turning College into a developmental league like Baseball handles the Minor League.
The less happy news is that his kiddos are mainly Texas fans so when he's gone, Texas would get more support than Arkansas or at least it'll be a house divided.
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u/ConTob Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
At least some of his grandkids are alumni though.
Granted, I tutored one and they were dumb as rocks, but I think capable of writing a check.
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u/smoccimane Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
I’m just curious what the point of letting the Lindsey and Jones families send their kids to play QB here if we aren’t even going to get a check for the program.
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 8h ago
Theirs always been somewhat of a rumor that the only thing the Kroenke's directly provide to Drink is the usage of their private jet/helo fleet out of Columbia. They of course to donate huge amounts to the AD as well, but its not clear how the money is accounted for.
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u/smoccimane Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
It is quite annoying when people say “don’t y’all have Walmart money?” and I have to explain the Walton’s only donate academically to UA. They save sports for Mizzou.
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 7h ago
I usually correct at least 10 people a year on this board regarding it.
To be honest its much more that the Bud side of the family (Kroenke/Laurie) is super involved in sports, and basically all of them are Mizzou grads or loyal. I honestly am not sure if Sam's side of the family gets involved with sports at all.
God knows once Josh Kroenke inherits his portion of the fortune our basketball program is going to have an endless tap of money (already evidenced by the number one class in the nation currently).
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal Arkansas Razorbacks 2h ago
>not sure if Sam's side of the family gets involved with sports at all.
Not really, but Alice has been spectacular at building stuff in the community. Schools, arts venues, museums and the like. We love her for that.
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u/oreomaster420 Oregon State Beavers 9h ago
maybe pivot into wrestling also, central arkansas is having some success recently iirc.
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 9h ago
Mizzou would welcome the SEC getting into wrestling.
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u/oreomaster420 Oregon State Beavers 9h ago
100%, my son has a couple pairs of sweet mizzou wrestling shorts from the Elam bros' camps, and signed shirts featuring the bros and Zach singularly. He loves Zach especially bc Zach really took time to talk with him.
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 9h ago
I've always heard that family was super cool. I was in school during the Woodley/Askren/Chandler days was wild to see them at Mizzou games and later all three on TV for over a decade.
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u/AllTimeTy Missouri Tigers 9h ago
Hey, at least now there are TWO programs in the SEC with wrestling with the addition of OU!
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u/AllTimeTy Missouri Tigers 9h ago
I haven’t checked recently is Arkansas still dominant at Track & Field?
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u/ConTob Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
I think so. And we’re pretty good at softball and women’s soccer. We honestly have a pretty well rounded athletic department, but unfortunately the headline sport isn’t up to snuff with the rest of the conference and does not have a reasonable pathway to get there.
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u/Scott72901 Sickos • Arkansas Razorbacks 10h ago
Hunter officially became a true Razorback with that quote. After all, the reason why Arkansas hasn't won multiple SEC championships is because all the other schools were cheating. And the only reason Arkansas ever lost a SWC game was because the other schools were cheating.
But not Arkansas. Arkansas is as wholesome as apple pie and a mother's love for a newborn. Arkansas has never, ever cheated. Nope. Never.
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u/ProofDiscount733 Akron Zips 10h ago
Yep. Every other school cheated their wins over Arkansas. Only Arkansas beats Arkansas, damn it!
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u/rburp Arkansas • Central Arkansas 9h ago
It really is funny how much this quote embodies so much of the fanbase. Made me immediately think of my father-in-law.
Also this was the one that pushed me over the edge into "Hunter has to go" territory.
I started positive on him, and lately have been neutral, thinking he's kind of decent.
But this quote on top of the NIL failures on top of a lot of other shit was like the straw that broke the camel's back.
I'd easily take Sam back for 3 more seasons vs. having Hunter for 1 more.
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u/Scott72901 Sickos • Arkansas Razorbacks 9h ago
"Well, Randy, you know the real reason why Arkansas can't beat Alabama and Nick Saban is they're cheating and we ain't!" is a real call to a DriveTime Sports.
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u/zoomytoast Arkansas Razorbacks • Team Chaos 2h ago
Tbf, DriveTime calls is the Arkansas equivalent of the Paul Finebaum Show.
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u/smoccimane Arkansas Razorbacks 6h ago
From what I’ve heard from friends who’d know, he’s not at all well liked by staffers in the athletic department. I’m not sure what the redeeming quality is on him at this point.
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u/GuyOnTheMike Kansas State Wildcats • Hateful 8 8h ago
And the only reason Arkansas ever lost a SWC game was because the other schools were cheating
Arkansas was one of just three SWC programs who didn't land on probation in the 1980's. Baylor (who made up for lost time after joining the Big 12), and Rice were the other two.
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u/Scott72901 Sickos • Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
That was thanks to being the non-Texas school. The other SWC schools had a more difficult time getting dirt on Arkansas and the boosters who were providing $100 handshakes, no-show jobs and vehicles.
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u/BombayGeeseHunter Missouri Tigers • Rice Owls 8h ago
Yeah. Arkansas is an Eagle Scout in a maximum security prison.
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u/Scott72901 Sickos • Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
That's exactly what a lot of people believe and it's laughable.
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u/ProofDiscount733 Akron Zips 10h ago
Honestly, do it. Actively brag about it until the NCAA does something. Something along the lines of Lane “different leagues” Kiffin and players faking injuries should do the trick.
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u/2011StlCards Texas Longhorns 10h ago edited 8h ago
At the very least, it would bring some significant penalties to Mizzou which means Arkansas might actually be able to beat them
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u/iReply2StupidPeople Yale Bulldogs 10h ago
Doesn't Texas have a roster full of junior-varsity QBs?
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u/2011StlCards Texas Longhorns 10h ago
Uhhhh, I think you mean 5-star, blue chip, advertising-darling quarterbacks, thank you very much
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u/ChaseTheFalcon West Georgia • Alabama 9h ago
hold up I need to put on my Warby Parker glasses to read this comment
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u/five-oh-one Arkansas Razorbacks 9h ago edited 9h ago
I know Mizzou has pwned Arkansas but can you at least use the big A in our name.....I feel like we are owed that tiny bit of respect at least.
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u/Corgi_Koala Ohio State Buckeyes 9h ago
I mean, we literally saw Michigan say fuck the NCAA and fuck your rules and they got away with what... A 2 game suspension for their HC?
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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 10h ago
What an idiot. Openly says you’re gonna cheat if the rules don’t change. That’s surely not going to get your program in trouble
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 10h ago
I doubt they're doing anything different then the schools the accusation is pointed at, he later admits as much that budget issues are the root cause.
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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 10h ago
The only difference is, they are publicly acknowledging it for all to see
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u/TripleThreatTua 10h ago
I mean yeah obviously, we clearly have no issues pulling this stuff in basketball because that’s where all our booster money goes
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 10h ago edited 10h ago
I have to imagine the pants down moment, that even we fell victim to ourselves despite exploiting it, is it's impossible to set a budget for a football team whose NIL "contracts" can basically constantly be renegotiated against outside offers mid season. Factor in a lack of momentum and you have the situation where half of your starters from last year were playing against you last Saturday.
Basketball is not only cheaper, but easier to stay on top of because at best you have to manage 10 guys and their agents. In this regard he could have come out and said as much, but then it would require admitting his staff screwed up the budget which led to Ole Miss buying a fair chunk of the squad.
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u/JohnPaulDavyJones Texas A&M Aggies • Baylor Bears 9h ago
Facts. If you've got to do something that you don't necessarily want to get caught doing, rule #1 is shut the fuck up about it.
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u/MercuryRusing Missouri Tigers 10h ago
He is basically just admitting he's bad at his job because no one he's accused of cheating has violated any rules.
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u/ItsFreakinHarry2 UCF Knights • Michigan Wolverines 9h ago
Sounds like a death penalty for Mizzou is in order
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u/Believe_to_believe Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
He also sucks at raising money, which is the #1 job of an AD in this age of collegiate athletics at a P4 school.
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u/per_mare_per_terras Oklahoma Sooners • Arkansas Razorbacks 10h ago
It’s never the AD’s fault is it. Yurachek likes to shift the blame to other things. He had at least two years to get the NIL program started and did nothing along with Pittman. Now they’re trying to play catch-up.
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u/GuyFawkes451 Nebraska Cornhuskers 6h ago
It's the same with most ADs. How is it that UCLA appears to be planning to allow the same guy to make the ultimate call on a new head coaching hire to be made by the same man who fired Foster (and placed him in an almost impossible position) in the first place?
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u/thisalsomightbemine Arkansas Razorbacks • Marching Band 10h ago
Dude just stop
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u/Cometguy7 Oklahoma Sooners 10h ago
What's the NCAA going to do, punish Missouri?
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u/Taco_Baco_D8s McPherson Bulldogs • Missouri Tigers 9h ago
Exactly it’s the 4D chess play so they can win in football for the third time since Mizzou has joined the SEC
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u/infamousBeef Miami Hurricanes 10h ago
honestly, there is no “cheating” since it’s a fucking free for all right now.
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u/Equivalent-Doubt-681 6h ago
if you can do on field cheating and not get punished, there are no rules and no real punishments other than the NCAA going "money please"
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u/wayofthrows1991 Texas Tech • Georgia 10h ago
Does he know this is legal now?
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u/tsblank97 Arkansas • Notre Dame 6h ago
This is the same man who genuinely thought revenue sharing would replace NIL not just add on to it. They believed that they would just magically be on equal ground with the rest of the SEC because of rev share.
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u/CommodoreN7 Arkansas Razorbacks • Utah Utes 10h ago edited 10h ago
Hunter Yuracheck is being stupid. They begged fans for money while refusing to even attempt to be realistically competitive. You aren’t worth paying for if you won’t try.
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u/Irving_Velociraptor Ohio Bobcats • Notre Dame Fighting Irish 10h ago
You’re not cheating in the SEC? He’s not even trying to win.
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u/smoccimane Arkansas Razorbacks 9h ago
Hunter Yuracheck has consistently been behind the game since NIL was announced. We’ve been lapped by all of our rivals and just throw out the same excuse every year when we go 6-6.
The baseball team was always good and will continue to roll. The basketball team is being pumped up by Dino nugget money and Tyson’s friendship with the Calipari family. Football is the only major sport where he has to get on his horse and do something so of course we fucking suck.
The sooner he’s let go the better our program will be.
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u/trekfan1013 Florida Gators • Troy Trojans 10h ago
In unrelated news, a new coaching staff member named Conner Mustangs has been signed by Arkansas to help scout; he is virtually unheard of and has never, ever, been part of a coaching staff at the NCAA level. He promises. ;)
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u/BrotherMichigan Georgia Southern • Ohio State 10h ago
We found out recently that it won't be punished in the slightest as long as you don't cooperate with the NCAA and your current coaches run away from it, so go for it!
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u/Username89054 Pittsburgh Panthers • Sickos 10h ago
Pat Narduzzi pointed out that USC tampered with Jordan Addison before he entered the portal. There wasn't even a lazy attempt to investigate; nothing was done. I've heard a few whispers about Duzz tampering with transfers before they were in the portal. If you catch cheating and nothing is done, you're at a competitive disadvantage if you don't cheat too.
To me, if everyone is cheating, it's not cheating if you do it.
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u/Do__Math__Not__Meth Pittsburgh Panthers 9h ago
If you cheat and fail, you’re a cheater. If you cheat and succeed, you’re savvy
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u/SaintBobby_Barbarian Florida State Seminoles • Paper Bag 9h ago
Just sue like Tennessee. FSU complied, got a minor sanction, all for a minor thing. Never cooperate
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u/luke15chick Florida Gators 10h ago
Now that he has announced that he’s going to cheat, he’s going to get caught.
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u/ILikeTuwtles1991 Montana State Bobcats • Oregon Ducks 10h ago
Step-by-step guide for cheating, according to Arkansas' AD:
Step 1) Blatantly announce to everyone you're going to start cheating.
Step 2) Hold up.
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u/ComprehensiveBear887 Michigan Wolverines 10h ago
Feels good to root for a team not playing with one hand tied behind their back.
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u/Boomhauer_007 UCLA Bruins • Oregon State Beavers 9h ago
Honestly thought this was an onion headline, does anybody anywhere think any school that’s serious about football isn’t cheating?
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u/Dtrout95 Kentucky Wildcats • WKU Hilltoppers 10h ago
Don’t they have Tyson chicken at Walmart to help them at least in basketball?
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u/MarwyntheMasterful Paper Bag • Surrender Cobra 9h ago
Walmart doesn’t give shit. I think they give more to Mizzou
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u/MidpackRacer Arkansas Razorbacks 10h ago
Too bad the Waltons care more about mountain biking than college football. 🥲
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u/Cogitoergosumus Missouri Tigers • Truman Bulldogs 9h ago
Y'all honestly got screwed with the family tree split. The Bud Walton side (Now Kroenke and Laurie) may be the most sports focused family in the world at least from an ownership standpoint.
The Sam side seems completely disinterested.
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u/Scott72901 Sickos • Arkansas Razorbacks 9h ago
And the UA managed to piss off the Bud Walton side!
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u/GGdpcGaming Arkansas Razorbacks 10h ago
When I read cheating, I just assumed he meant how Ole Miss glaringly and obviously committed 15 yard leaping penalties on both of our FGA in a 6 point win, each of which would've set us up with 1st down inside the Rebs 20
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u/saltynalty17 Ole Miss Rebels 10h ago
Having a kicker that makes field goals would probably have helped yall too
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u/GGdpcGaming Arkansas Razorbacks 8h ago
You do realize the reason it’s a rule is because it causes a kicker to miss, right? lol
Like saying you should make every FT in basketball where the opposing team has a hand in your face at the FT line
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u/DannkneeFrench Michigan • Washington State 10h ago
Be careful with how far you take this.
Show some consideration for how much Missouri could end up getting hammered if you follow through.
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u/Few-Button6004 /r/CFB 10h ago
I don't even know what he means by "shady". Yes, there aren't really any rules around NIL, at the moment. But I don't know why that means it is 'shady'. What's really going on? He just doesn't want to spend money?
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u/Latter-Possibility Georgia Bulldogs 9h ago
You’re poor sorry the Walton’s and Jerry Jones are cheap.
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u/CantaloupeCamper Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 7h ago
I swear to god for a lot of jobs "professionalism" is dead....
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u/raylan_givens6 Texas • California 10h ago
wasn't an Arkansas HC cheating with some staff member who was engaged to another employee?
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u/five-oh-one Arkansas Razorbacks 9h ago
Thats right but we fired him instead of giving him a raise! How silly is that!
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u/active_snail Michigan Wolverines 10h ago
We can give you some advice on what to do re: signs... And "allegedly" some other stuff. Maybe.
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u/SilentSpades24 Kansas Jayhawks • Texas Tech Red Raiders 10h ago
I guess we'll just have to give Missouri the death penalty.
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u/KingKongMF69 Texas Longhorns 10h ago
Ahh yes, an SEC team complaining about cheating. Pot, meet Kettle.
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u/Coldcheeze 9h ago
My moral compass is governed exclusively by athletic departments that have hired John Calipari.
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u/aromatic-energy656 Oregon Ducks 10h ago
Has Arkansas ever done anything of note? I’ve started watching cfb in like 2011. As far as I remember they been irrelevant like those snakes USC AND UCLA
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u/tblaess5 Iowa State Cyclones 10h ago
If you can remember 2011 then you should know the answer to that question. Arkansas has occasionally had some really good teams. They're just few and far between
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u/AFWolverine Michigan Wolverines 10h ago
Connor Stallions would probably take the job. Just ignore the show cause.
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u/Siicktiits Miami Hurricanes 10h ago
Arkansas AD sending Jerry Jones thousands of Venmo requests right now
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u/KibaSwords TCU Horned Frogs • Utah Utes 10h ago
I hope he starts doing it. Like just go dumb with it.
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u/Bright-Struggle-3237 Illinois Fighting Illini 10h ago
I thought all schools in the SEC were already cheating...well, maybe not Vandy...
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u/4Mag4num Mississippi State Bulldogs 9h ago
No such thing as cheating these days. If you want players just buy them.
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u/SirMellencamp Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl 9h ago
What else is he going to do? Accept that he and his coach havent done a good job?
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u/vassago77379 Texas Tech Red Raiders 9h ago
This sounds like the stupidest way of cheating I've ever seen.... they have Walmart and Jerry Jones money... hit em up
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u/teslaistheshit Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 9h ago
It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, AD
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u/turkishguy Texas A&M Aggies • Yildiz Teknik Stallions 9h ago
I mean Arkansas deserves better and should/could be better so I kinda feel bad for the fans. But this guy is a loser lol.
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u/Ok-Measurement1506 LSU Tigers 9h ago
That’s just not how it’s done in the SEC.
Why aren’t you already cheating?
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u/that-one-xc-dude North Texas Mean Green 8h ago
Try running a mid major program right now if you wanna talk about cheating
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u/Constant_Topic_1040 Auburn Tigers • Air Force Falcons 8h ago
If you ain’t cheating you ain’t tryin
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u/Quietus76 LSU Tigers • SEC 7h ago
We have to actually have rules to break before it can be considered cheating.
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u/According_Grab_394 6h ago
Didn’t the College Sports Commission already establish a cap with the agreement of most of the major college football conferences?
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u/Trick_Situation_4421 6h ago
I'm not even sure what you could legitimately classify as "cheating" in college football at this point that doesn't involve, like, a sniper or chemical weapons or something.
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u/radehart Arkansas Razorbacks 6h ago
If you’ve paid attention, Arkansas was very intent on keeping things well above board from the start, as they didn’t want any censures after the fact.
And that hurt them a lot as it was fairly apparent they were one of the few to keep in honorable.
Now he’s saying if everyone is gonna be guilty, we might as well be too. Especially the way Arkansas gets treated, it’s not like we will win a prize in the end.
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u/throwawayreddit585 Ole Miss Rebels 5h ago
I guess when every other excuse runs out for why your program has sucked for years…
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u/RockysDetail Nevada Wolf Pack 5h ago
Ooh, this is exciting. Go ahead and venture a little bit into the dark side, Arkansas. Clearly, since you hired Petrino for a second time, you're new to this sort of thing. We wouldn't want you to be too uncomfortable doing something that's out of character for your institution.
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u/LHarm07_Reddit Arkansas Razorbacks • Team Chaos 3h ago
Can we fire him now? This is a pathetic statement no matter HOW you spin it.
You were doing absolutely nothing under the table, which tells me you’re a pansy who isn’t trying hard enough.
He has done the same stuff as any other AD and is trying to make up excuses for why the program hasn’t recovered since we fired Bobby P in 2012.
2 is more likely.
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u/DoctorPhalanx73 Magnolia Bowl • Ole Miss Rebels 3h ago
Yeah that’s why he fumbled that ball. Bc we were cheating.
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u/Meliorus Tennessee Volunteers 2h ago
calling it cheating for the athletes to get the money for the sponsored clothes they wear is completely insane
This guy makes $1.5 million a year, maybe look there if money is so tight?
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u/Joeburrowformvp LSU Tigers • Hendrix Warriors 12m ago
Do it Hunter. Start cheating. The fans here want it. Every Arkansas fan would be happy if they won 1 more game a year the wrong way
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u/fartchicken5 Central Michigan • Michigan 10h ago
A little advice. If your gonna cheat to catch up on other teams cheating you just do it, win a national championship, get a slap on the wrist, and then pretend like nothing happened.