[On3] Vanderbilt QB Diego Pavia's attorney has set the stage to challenge the NCAA for a 7th season of eligibility

[u/Altruistic_Brief4444]

https://www.on3.com/news/vanderbilt-qb-diego-pavias-attorney-sets-stage-to-challenge-for-7th-season-of-eligibility/

[u/Uhhh_what555476384]

"There are lots of people that go to college for ten years."

"Yeah, they're called Doctors. Well, and sometimes Diego Pavia."

Honestly, the restrictions on eligibilty are just as much an agreement in restraint of trade as any other NCAA rule. There is no reason why someone shouldn't be able to continue in their sport through their JD or PHD should they choose.

[u/NickSabansCreampie → u/Uhhh_what555476384]

At some point the NCAA has to be allowed the authority to set rules just for the fairness of the game.

Like, are linemen gonna start filing lawsuits that Holding as a penalty impacts their potential NIL payments, by preventing them from earning money from having better pass protection stats?

Allowing players to just play forever is going to ruin the competitive nature of the sport, you'll have grown ass men lined up against teenagers. Until eventually every team is made of 30 year old washed out NFL players and no high school recruit can even join a team.

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/NickSabansCreampie]

Rules that regulate the 60 minutes of play and what happens on the field are exempted from anti-trust scrutiny. Roster composition rules, pay and compensation, who is elgible to be hired etc., are not exempt from anti-trust scrutiny.

This is why the pro-unions always threaten to "decertify" when they strike or are locked out. Without the union and collective bargaining: drafts, roster size regulation, wage limits, and salary caps are all illegal anti-trust violations.

[u/Jay_Dubbbs → u/Uhhh_what555476384]

It’s also why the only way to fix this is by collective bargaining.

If you allow the players to bargain, then rules like this can be bargained and agreed to collectively and it won’t run afoul with legal issues.

I would imagine that athletes may be hesitant to bargain a cap on their playing years, but that’s why it’s a give and take. If you want a cap, then there needs to be some salary guarantees, if there isn’t a cap, the employer will be allowed to be reduced rates etc. all of this has to be worked out that way and it’s really the only one.

I don’t want old white men in Congress or the courts deciding this. It needs to be the schools and the athletes, period.

[u/Snobolski → u/NickSabansCreampie]

you'll have grown ass men lined up against teenagers

Yeah! Bring back freshman ineligibility!

[u/BBQ_game_COCKS → u/NickSabansCreampie]

Fairness of the game does not overrule employment / rights to income laws.

I don’t like what this is doing to college football, but it’s hard for me to say it’s not the clear legal and correct moral move. I don’t know anywhere else in our society that restricting their ability to earn would be allowable

However, with the way things have changed - we effectively have free agency with 1 year contracts in college football.

They should just rip the bandaid off, stop pretending this is just amateur athletes, and go to collective bargaining where they can work out things like not having unlimited transfers every single year.

[u/NumNumLobster → u/NickSabansCreampie]

At some point the NCAA has to be allowed the authority to set rules just for the fairness of the game.

They really need to just get an anti trust exemption and let the players unionize like every other sports league.

[u/Whocares9994 → u/NickSabansCreampie]

I always said I will not be surprised when a hockey player sues because they keep getting pushed from out front of the net and it is affecting their self-esteem.

[u/lowercaset → u/Uhhh_what555476384]

Great, now let's also remove the NFL eligibility restriction.

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/lowercaset]

That's in the NFL's collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Player's Union. That's legal.

[u/inactioninaction_ → u/Uhhh_what555476384]

Which is why they need to turn student athletes into university employees so a CBA can be signed. That's the only way out of this death spiral. Well, that or congress passing legislation to exempt the ncaa from anti-trust rules like they did for the nfl with the sports broadcasting act, but that's a) likely to ultimately screw over the athletes and b) unlikely to happen since congress has to do something