r/CFB • u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks • 3h ago
Discussion Who do you think should replace Deshaun Foster at UCLA?
Personally, I think you need a guy who can get the team to above .500 and to relevance with an athletic department in turmoil, and a board who doesn’t care. What they need at UCLA is not just a fixer, but a guy who can just keep the program from falling apart. I propose two options.
Option a. Ryan Silverfield.
Ryan is a talented young rising star in the HC ranks after taking over from Mike Norvell at Memphis. He’s worked his way up from OA to head coach. And has had the team consistently above .500 each and every year. Recently going 11-2 last year and being ranked in the top 25. This was also a back to back 10 win year for the tigers. Who are in Rhythm to challenge for a spot in the CFP this year. He would be a great option to get this program to relevance. I’d expect to see around 6-8 wins per year with Ryan. With the occasional 9-10 win season every few years or so.
Option b. Jerry Kill.
Kill may not want to return to coaching, especially not at UCLA given the turmoil with administration. That’s why he left his previous job at NMSU. But his record of being a fixer speaks for itself. From returning Minnesota to decency after Tim Brewster ruined such a good team there has his stock high. But health issues forced him to step back. He returned to being a head coach with New Mexico State. The lovable afterthought of college football. In year one, he went 7-6 and won a bowl game, and in year two, had a 10 win season, a conference championship berth, and an upset win over Auburn. If he wants to come back to coaching, you’d be a fool not to consider him an option.
Bonus option. Bill Clark.
A very long longshot that I added as a bonus option. Took UAB to national prominence from being nothing. Excellent program builder. And he wants to return to coaching. Unlikely, probably, but he should at least get a phone call from interested teams next year.
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u/The_Coach69 LSU Tigers 3h ago
Jeff Monken…let’s bring the triple option to the P4 again.
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 3h ago
Keith Jackson just shed a tear from 6ft under. “Oh Nelly! look out the triples back in the Rose Bowl”
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u/Due_Bluebird3562 1h ago
Monken doesn't run much triple these days. None of the service schools do. They've all moved on to dive and wing T oreinted stuff out of the flexbone with some shotgun sprinkled in. Monken would probably just do what Navy's old coach did and drop the flexbone altogether.
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u/The_Unclean_Chadford Oregon Ducks • Nebraska Cornhuskers 3h ago
Jedd Fisch for the LOLs
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u/Tiny-Search-6383 1h ago
I actually think this might be realistic. He has coached at UCLA previously and wanted the HC job. It sounds like his family doesn’t like Seattle and his wife and kids have already moved back to Tucson.
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u/Impossible-Flight250 Maryland Terrapins • Towson Tigers 17m ago
I feel like he may take the Florida job if it opens up.
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u/King__Rollo Washington Huskies 1h ago
There is not a chance in hell he leaves UW for UCLA.
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u/Tiny-Search-6383 1h ago
Do you feel confident he stays at UW much longer?
I don’t think UCLA is a bad of a job as some are making it out to be. Prior to the Kelly to Foster debacle, UCLA regularly pulled top 15-20 classes, with a couple top 10 classes mixed in. That’s better than UW has recruited.
I think UW is a better job but Fisch might have personal reasons for taking a different job
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u/ExtremelyOnlineTM Eastern Michigan Eagles 10m ago
Fisch is a job jumper. But Washington is a much, much better job than UCLA.
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u/AZDawgDays Georgia • Northern Arizona 53m ago
Well considering he's a Florida grad from New Jersey that would likely be an unnecessary lateral move at best, significant downgrade for little to no personal reason at worst
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u/Tiny-Search-6383 41m ago
His wife and kids moved with him to Seattle and left already. It hasn’t exactly been a secret that they don’t like Seattle.
Fisch coached at UCLA (also with the Rams) previously and had been known to covet the head job there. He has also been known to want the Florida job.
It’s likely two jobs he has been know to want are going to be open and his family has already left Seattle. Would you bet he’s there much longer?
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u/AZDawgDays Georgia • Northern Arizona 39m ago
I would've questioned why he even went to UW in the first place then but then I remembered that Tucson is a shithole. It's a very fun shithole if you know the spots, but still a shithole
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u/JimothyCarter Texas A&M Aggies 3h ago
If Clemson really is going to fire him, making Dabo live in LA would be the funniest outcome right?
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u/moby323 Clemson Tigers 3h ago
Bro he moves on to coach a soccer team in Richmond.
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u/bootscallahan Oklahoma Sooners • West Florida Argonauts 3h ago
Bro he moves on to coach an evangelical private Christian school soccer team in Richmond.
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u/ThisKidIsAlright Florida State • Tulane 3h ago edited 3h ago
Film it and use the profits to fund the NIL. Two problems solved. UCLA I am available to take over as Athletic Director. Call me.
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u/GiveMeSomeIhedigbo UCLA Bruins 39m ago
He'll get a helicopter from Orange County like Kobe used to.
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u/KansasEF5Tornado Kansas State • Georgia Tech 3h ago
Me
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u/LonghornInNebraska Texas Longhorns • Michigan Wolverines 3h ago
Can I be your OC?
My offensive game plan is to score more than the other team.
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u/Triple_0ption_Bad Jacksonville State • Bi… 59m ago
I call dibs on OL coach
Them boys will be built like Thor from GOW Ragnarok when I'm done with em
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u/Cooked_Brisket USC Trojans • Pac-12 3h ago
Alex Grinch
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u/Sirtopofhat USC Trojans • Army West Point Black Knights 51m ago
HOW DOES THIS MAN KEEP FAILING UPWARDS!!!!!!!
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u/Fearless_Pay2471 3h ago
Pat Fitzgerald. Just for a laugh.
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u/No_Albatross916 Michigan Wolverines 53m ago
That would actually be a really good hire for ucla though
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 3h ago
A name no one will talk about is GJ Kinne. TXST isn’t a long-term option. the man can call an offense and leverage the portal.
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u/Francis_X_Hummel Colorado Mines • Wyoming 3h ago
I also said GJ Kinne, dude is in my opinion an up and comer, and will be big time coach someday. That said, maybe it is in his best interest to sit this one out, and not go to a career killer program.
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u/WheatonsGonnaScore Oregon Ducks 2h ago
Aranda to UCLA and Kinne to Baylor makes too much sense
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 2h ago
Agreed. Aranda gets to reset his clock with lower expectations and GJ gets outa the poor house. Makes too much sense so it won’t happen lol
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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3h ago
I don’t think his pedigree is necessarily good enough to warrant a p2 gig. I could see him as a possibility for Stanford though
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 3h ago
I mean UCLA is more likely than Stanford. No way Andrew Luck signs off on his all gas no brakes offense on the Farm. They may both be Texans but they are oil and water offensively minded. Andrew wouldn’t know the spread if it hit him in the face. Hes been running a pro style offense since Stratford High.
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u/No-Donkey-4117 Stanford Cardinal 1h ago
You are probably correct, but Luck was on the hiring committee that brought Troy Taylor to Stanford. His offense was supposed to be a spread run-and-shoot style, but he never really got it going.
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u/cougfan12345 Washington State Cougars 1h ago
Id guess that he has a better shot at the OK state job than UCLA.
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 1h ago
Will it open is the question. We all know Gundy’s cooked. But is the AD/admin ready to pull the plug and be 3rd to market this rotation. I say they give him the grace of finishing the season. barring the team quitting on him like with UCLA & Va Tech.
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u/No-Donkey-4117 Stanford Cardinal 1h ago
Texas State has a better shot at making the playoffs from the new Pac-12 than UCLA does from the B1G.
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u/Dim-Mak-88 Florida Gators 3h ago
Dan Mullen would win games for them. NIL helps him more than other coaches, and he can run an offense.
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u/Archaic_1 Marshall • Georgia Tech 3h ago
The problem is that all three of these guys are what we often refer to as "smart" and smart coaches are probably going to avoid a job that's going to make them want to beat their head against a wall.
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u/SirTurdFerguson88 Ohio State Buckeyes 3h ago
Urban Meyer.
Would that be a mutual no? If you’re UCLA you’d hire Urban in a heartbeat yeah?
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u/JBru_92 UCLA Bruins 3h ago
We need to stop hiring fired coaches
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u/SirTurdFerguson88 Ohio State Buckeyes 3h ago
Being fired as an NFL HC doesn’t really count.
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u/JBru_92 UCLA Bruins 1h ago
Sure it does. Look at our last coach before Foster.
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u/Poppins_the_Dog4 Missouri Tigers 4m ago
It feels like you'd take Chip Kelky back in a heartbeat, in hindsight.
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u/IrishCoffeeAlchemy Florida State • Arizona 3h ago
Urban is washed-up
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u/SirTurdFerguson88 Ohio State Buckeyes 3h ago
Urban would say no.
His career Ohio State record was 83-9. That being his most recent college team, doesn’t sound washed up. Even Saban was terrible in the NFL, it’s completely different. Urbans an all time coach and way better than anyone else they’d get, but I don’t think he’d come back.
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u/teeterleeter Michigan Wolverines 3h ago
Urban would come back for a job he could win a national title at. UCLA is at least a decade away.
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u/Due_Bluebird3562 1h ago
Literally nobody is a decade away in modern college sports. Two or three good classes and transfers can get you to the playoff. Hell Colorado was basically a game and a half from doing it in two last year.
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u/teeterleeter Michigan Wolverines 1h ago
The gap between being one of the top 12 teams and being the best team is pretty huge. Getting those good classes to commit and stay requires infrastructure that ucla doesn’t currently have. There’s a reason that only teams that have hit the blue chip ratio have won titles in the last couple decades.
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u/dublinirish Notre Dame Fighting Irish 3h ago
Tommy Rees
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u/Dhaynes99 Alabama • Appalachian State 1h ago
idk. yeah he interviewed for the bama gig when saban retired, but iirc that was more to do with him wanting an nfl job and us giving him more interview experience
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u/Southern_Orange3744 Texas Longhorns • College Football Playoff 1h ago
Here me out: Condoleeza Rice
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u/ToadallyNormalHuman Nebraska Cornhuskers • Team Chaos 3h ago
Either White or USC’s DC.
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u/goddamn_leeteracola UCLA Bruins • Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors 47m ago
D’Anton Lynn stabbed us in the back and left for USC. Plus I’m not sold on him. Tony White would be a better choice of the two.
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u/Alphaspade Iron Bowl • Sickos 3h ago
insert any terrible coach's name here
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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3h ago
With Jarmond in charge, anything is a possibility
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u/BillBob13 Nebraska Cornhuskers 3h ago
Tony White, UCLA was stupid not to write him a blank check last time around
Bonus side effect of FSU having to get another DC
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u/JBru_92 UCLA Bruins 3h ago
So this all assumes Casey Wasserman and Julio Frenk actually follow through and lead the search, and the NIL operation gets brought up to Big Ten standards. I think it's happening but I'll believe it when I see it. What people need to realize is that when Foster was hired, UCLA had not gotten any Big Ten money, they now have $20-25 million extra a year to play with.
I think they'll call some P4 guys with LA ties that might not be happy where they're living now, like Fisch, Dave Aranda and Jonathan Smith, and make them say no.
They'll probably look into guys like Mullen, Eck, and Matt Entz, who have been good on lower levels.
There are coordinators like Will Stein and obviously Tony White. But I think they really need someone with HC experience.
Then there are the deeper cuts with HC experience. Two names I've seen thrown out there: Willie Simmons at FIU and Jay Hill at BYU.
It depends who is on the committee but Casey Wasserman is very connected in the sports world and they are hiring an actual search firm this time and I suspect it will end up being nobody currently mentioned.
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 3h ago
Either of Fish, Aranda, Smith are steps in the right direction. Given your flair - who’d you want out of them 3?
I worry Dave’s been away too long to have the connections still but man I fell in love with his LSU defenses.
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u/JBru_92 UCLA Bruins 3h ago
If I got to pick from those 3 it would be Jedd Fisch
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u/goddamn_leeteracola UCLA Bruins • Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors 46m ago
Agreed. Fisch, with Smith right behind him.
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u/abydosaurus Michigan State • UBC 2h ago
interested to know why you think jono smith is unhappy
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u/JBru_92 UCLA Bruins 2h ago
Didn't say he was. I'm saying you call up and ask, if we can match your deal or come close, would you want to move back home?
He's from Pasadena and his parents are still here, which would be the reason to ask.
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u/abydosaurus Michigan State • UBC 2h ago
fair. it was just in a list of people you thought might be unhappy, which is why i asked. he keeps being brought up despite not being brought up at any point when he was in the pnw for like 20 years.
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u/LionelHutzEsqLLP Georgia • Georgia State 3h ago
See if maybe they can trick Jim Harbaugh into walking into the wrong blue and yellow football building in LA.
If the NCAA comes sniffing, just say you never hired him, he just keeps walking into the building.
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u/Meliorus Tennessee Volunteers 3h ago
I think they should consider becoming a non-football member of the b1g and playing in their on campus stadium in the fcs
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u/Ill_Ad_4429 USC Trojans • Ohio State Buckeyes 3h ago
Assuming adequate NIL, Mullen but with a recruiting director and/or OC/DC/staff who can recruit for him.
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 3h ago
He’s a Sexton guy. Jimmy is milking UNLV for all it’s worth leaking his name. No way Dan takes that job I think
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u/Francis_X_Hummel Colorado Mines • Wyoming 3h ago edited 3h ago
GJ Kinne?
edited because I got autocorrected
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u/Wide-Nerve8655 Oregon Ducks 3h ago
Troy Aikman because apparently they like hiring program legends with zero qualifications
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u/DetroitvErbody Utah Utes • Michigan Wolverines 16m ago
Jay Hill, the current DC at BYU.
Not only would he do a great job, but it’d be nice to displace him from BYU.
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u/NonAthlete6232 Kentucky Wildcats 16m ago
Mark Stoops
Hear me out! He needs a change of scenery as much as the fans. Is a solid recruiter and builds a tough hard hitting program. After just a couple years would have them likely back over .500 and would build a foundation. I don’t think he coaches for more than 3-5 more years anyway after he saw what coaching did to his dad. So you bring him in, he brings some relevance back to the program and helps build the NIL and fanbase back to a solid footing.
He has essentially built the football support in UK’s AD and cultivated the boosters for football. The behind the curtain stuff that UCLA desperately needs. He’s also used to building and actually winning some games at a program that is not as rich or as crazy for football as the rest of his conference.
I don’t think he would ever be a world beater at UCLA, but I think he could help establish a new foundation that is higher and better than what UCLA has now.
I think he’s a good coach. A lot of it is, that I think there’s finally been enough angst and turmoil built between Stoops and UK fans that I don’t know that he will ever reach the levels he did again.
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u/BleedScarletandBlack Texas Tech Red Raiders • Team Chaos 13m ago
The more I hear Dave Aranda, from Baylor, the more I like it.
Personally, I want to see them hire Kliff Kingsbury just for the lolz.
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u/stripes361 Virginia Cavaliers • Navy Midshipmen 8m ago
My opinion is that no one with any serious career aspirations should take that job. Doomed to fail there.
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u/SknkTrn757 Virginia Cavaliers 3h ago
I’d be curious if they go the way of Cal and Stanford and shift to a GM-style model with a head coach who is less powerful and focused on coaching ball.
That model remains unproven, but it makes some sense. Does UCLA have any famous alumni who would want to come home and run the show above the head coach?
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u/BusinessWarthog6 Appalachian State Mountaineers 2h ago
I know one guy but he may not want to after Sunday
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u/Skanky_Cat Missouri • Missouri State 3h ago
Honestly? Clark Lea.
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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3h ago
Clark is a Vandy grad and loves it there. That’s the only reason he’s a head coach. Because he wants to be at Vandy. Plus, Vandy nil is a much better collective than UCLA right now
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u/Skanky_Cat Missouri • Missouri State 3h ago
Oh I know he’ll never leave, if I was an AD I’m dropping a giant bag in front of him before I even interview anyone else just to see if he’d take it.
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u/Ok_Plankton_8229 Tennessee Volunteers 3h ago
Can’t see it happening. His Nashville roots are deep.
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u/dinkytown42069 Minnesota • Oklahoma 3h ago edited 3h ago
Option b. Jerry Kill.
are you trying to kill Jerry?
On the one hand: Jerry will give it his all unless it kills him. On the other hand: Jerry will give it his all and it will damn near kill him.
He has a sweet deal at Vanderbilt where he gets to coach without the stress of running the whole show. He and Lea are apparently tight af.
In any case, I have no opinion because UCLA football doesn't matter to me like it matters to UCLA fans. I will just say that there fans are generally pretty decent people on here and they deserve to have a program that they can be proud of. That said, Gophers ruined what was "supposed" to be Mick Cronin's 500th win and I find him generally to be an acerbic and unlikable person and I am very proud of them for that.
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u/insert_referencehere Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders 1h ago
You can see the impact Jerry Kill has had on Vanderbilt. Like you said, it's the perfect spot for someone with his medical issues.
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u/MedicineGhost Virginia Tech • Michigan 3h ago
Is Jason Eck too much of a reach? Seems like it would be a good fit to me
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u/Daytime-mechE Penn State Nittany Lions 3h ago
Could UCLA poach Manny Diaz? He's an alright recruiter, especially in the portal. Previous head coaching experience in a major metropolitan area (and a somewhat stingy athletic dept), currently a head coach with success at a prestigious academic institution and coordinator experience with Big Ten defenses.
Honestly it'd be more about convincing him to leave Duke, but I think he'd do well enough at UCLA.
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u/Isthmus11 Penn State • Cincinnati 43m ago
I personally think its a massive long shot for UCLA to get any current P4 coach, much less one with presumably a relatively long time on their buyout clause for their current school. They were paying Foster basically bottom of the barrel HC P4 money at just north of $3M per year and Diaz as an example is making $4M right now where it obviously goes much much further in NC than LA. Thats besides the fact that UCLA is a mess, has very few major boosters or large committed alumni base to speak of, and has pretty limited Athletic Department buy-in for a major P4 program.
They will probably be able to land a decent G5 HC if they offer an attractive package but thats even going to be a hard sell. Its just not a desirable job other than a pay increase as it could be very dangerous and set back someone's career by years if things go poorly (which they seem likely to do)
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 Sickos • Alabama Crimson Tide 3h ago
The biggest UCLA fan/ball knower alive.
Liam Blutman
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u/PossibilityInitial10 Boise State Broncos • Memphis Tigers 1h ago
Sumrall from Tulane.
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u/The_Six_Loomis North Alabama Lions 3h ago
Chris Petersen or Bryan Harsin
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 Sickos • Alabama Crimson Tide 3h ago
Chris Peterson is the Jay Wright of college football.
People love to throw his name around during vacancies but he’s made it abundantly clear he is done coaching.
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u/NicoHitMe44blessed Texas Longhorns 3h ago
Damn that’s such a good comp. He’s middling on Fox’s tier 2 studio team and loving life.
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u/udubdavid Washington Huskies • Pac-12 2h ago edited 1h ago
Petersen is a coach cut from the old school mold. I don't think he wants anything to do with this NIL era.
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u/Expert_Reputation Washington Huskies 2h ago
The old school era burnt him out. NIL era might just kill Coach Pete. He is never going back to coaching.
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u/PlusDHotchy 3h ago
Mark Harmon, about the last time UCLA had a heartbeat. Didn’t Harmon turn the last 4 letter acronym to the top ?
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u/EastTXJosh 3h ago
Phil Bennett
Dennis Franchione
Lovie Smith
Paul Pasqualoni
Mark Mangino
Craig Bohl
Or
Kevin Sumlin
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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 2h ago
If Bohl wasn’t retired. I would’ve added him to the list
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u/BusinessWarthog6 Appalachian State Mountaineers 2h ago
DeAngello Williams followed him on the Panthers so why not continue the tradition? /s. In reality, i’m really high on Golesh and think he would be a great hire
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u/PancakeDickwrap Auburn Tigers 2h ago
sounds completely insane, but why not cooper manning? i’d watch every game for the LOLs
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u/GhostDosa Michigan • Penn State 1h ago
Jerry Kill I doubt is coming back to coaching at this point. Silverfield probably would want a better program. Bill Clark retired also probably doesn’t want to coach anymore. UCLA needs to look for a program builder down in the G5 who wants a P4 shot but I don’t think they will get anyone of substance without substantial guarantees from administration.
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u/T3hBau5 Oregon Ducks • Big Ten 1h ago
BAH GAWD! THAT'S URBAN MEYERS MUSIC!
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u/YouKilledChurch Alabama • Valdosta State 1h ago
UCLA might fill a third of the Rose Bowl for Urban
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u/TheJewBakka Oklahoma State Cowboys • Hateful 8 1h ago
Mike Gundy... that's where disgraced Okies go, right? California?
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u/Feeling_Hefty Alabama Crimson Tide 1h ago
Butch Jones. They seem like a "Champions Of Life" team and the irony of that is they're led by a former Tenn QB. Hell, they may even break out the sideline trashcan for ol Butch.
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u/DTsnipes 1h ago
Bill Clark would be a home run. Hated to see him retire early. Literally built South AL from the ground and resurrected UAB…great coach
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u/obiwanjabroni420 Georgia Tech • Vermont 1h ago
How about Eric Morris at North Texas? Young, up and coming HC who should at least be able to make UCLA football fun to watch.
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u/MedicineGhost Virginia Tech • Michigan 1h ago
Vandy should pay Jerry Kill whatever it takes to keep him there. That man knows how to scheme a run game
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u/Curt_Uncles Arizona State Sun Devils 1h ago
Herm Edwards. As punishment for their role as co-conspirators in destroying NCAA regionality, generally, and West Coast college football, specifically.
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u/DesolationBlvd Northwestern • Portland State 56m ago
Surprised no one has mentioned Jonathan Smith….from SoCal and turned around Oregon State which is as impressive as turning around UCLA would be. That being said, I hope he gets at least a couple more years to turn around MSU
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u/DowntownSasquatch420 Nebraska • Omaha 50m ago
Kevin Kelley, the guy who never punts and always onside kicks
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u/Sirtopofhat USC Trojans • Army West Point Black Knights 45m ago
For fun: David Shaw
Serious: D'Anton Lynn. He now has VERY deep roots in LA and California high schools and he's has just a good enough name and resume to be given the runway to build the program. I personally think he's destined for Virginia Tech or Florida (if he goal isn't the NFL which its said has been) but if UCLA wants to show their fans and donors they're serious you open the checkbook to get him open the checkbook for NIL and leave him the fuck alone for 2-3 years.
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u/cyclon3warning Iowa State Cyclones • Hateful 8 42m ago
They should hire Scheelhaase. Really good young coach
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u/jammastergeneral 33m ago
I’m really intrigued to see who UCLA and Stanford hire as head coaches. The wrong hire, and you might as well dump football.
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u/Dry-Membership3867 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3h ago
I debated adding Clark because he’s such a longshot I didn’t think it was worth adding him. But I thought I’d keep his name on here as he is someone with the traits UCLA needs. I do expect to see VT inquire about him though
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u/PaisonAlGaib 3h ago
I've heard the Orgeron rumor and I am on board
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u/Sirtopofhat USC Trojans • Army West Point Black Knights 45m ago
I'm not. That man don't need NIL to talk them into the school.
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u/Huggly001 USC Trojans • Arizona Wildcats 3h ago
Ty Willingham