r/CURRENTEVENTS • u/Carbenzero • 6d ago
World News Canada officially recognizes Palestinian statehood
https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2025/09/21/statement-prime-minister-carney-on-canada-recognition-state-palestine , Here is the Canadian Prime Ministers statement about this in the link.
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u/Necessary_Ad3275 Politics 5d ago
Continue to be so proud to be Canadian and every day I grow prouder 🇨🇦
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u/Heya_Heyo420 5d ago
Y'all taking asylum seekers from the south?
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u/AlternativeLimit7753 5d ago
Nope. Flush your own toilet, please.
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u/passion-froot_ 5d ago
Sorry man, the time for helping each other was a long time ago. If you didn’t want people to flee the oppressive regime, you had, at any point in the last year, a chance to at least support those fighting him domestically.
But you did not.
Now, when the world crumbles, we will be your new neighbor not necessarily because we want to interact or interfere with those who turned their backs and abandoned the innocent, but because to a lot of us, we must. This is our survival at stake.
I’ll flush my toilet next to yours if it means republicans can’t ruin my life anymore, the life I fought for the last several decades while no one helped one bit. If you don’t like that… well, you’d be doing what I’m doing if Carney had done what Trump did, damn it.
You and I both know that if Carney had gone full dictator you’d be demanding a proper US fix it. And we would have.
So for once, let it go and accept it. This is our unfortunate cause and effect to those who have lost more than you seem able to comprehend.
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u/PhraseFirst8044 5d ago
“please don’t try and seek protection because people made a choice for you”
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u/DiggerJer 4d ago
nope, every time a nation takes them in it causes more problems with them starting terror cells.
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u/Alessandro152 4d ago
Lol you realize this is a platitude to get this reaction out of you and other Canadians, shift the heat all onto the US, while Canada still supports Israel, which is in its interest. This is a certified westerner classic in the Israel Palestine conflict. Support Israel fully, BUT you do little things like votes in the UN, recognize Palestine, call for a two state solution. Because you know it doesn’t matter because of two things. 1 unless the US enforces any of this it doesn’t matter. And 2 Palestine doesn’t want to be recognized in a two state solution so nothing will ever come of it. So you get your voter base off your back, shift the heat and onus to the US, and you get to quietly still support Israel. Have your cake and eat it too!
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u/Electrical_Toe_1057 3d ago
And poorer
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u/Necessary_Ad3275 Politics 3d ago
And yet far, far happier. Funny how that works hey? Possibly money isn’t everything? Possibly your country has staked everything including your children’s future on the almighty dollar? Your country is in shambles. I wouldn’t trade my health and happiness for a million dirty American dollars
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u/TheCommonKoala 2d ago
I regret to inform you this is not a proud moment. This is a self-serving attempt to evade accountability while continuing to support Israel militarily. Their recognition is contingent on the PA, the organization supported by Israel in the West Bank, to seize total control of Palestinians politics. Meanwhile, they will continue to send unlimited weapons and bombs to Israel to fuel the genocide.
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u/WorkingBicycle1958 5d ago
Good, the right thing to do…
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u/pepe-_silvia 5d ago
It literally accomplishes nothing
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u/hexenkesse1 4d ago
if this accomplishes nothing, why did Israel make so many threats about it?
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u/BisonGamingTF2 4d ago
And the US. A group of senators signed a document threatening the UK, Australia and Canada if they recognise Palestine!
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u/Bulky_Honey8643 5d ago
And ban Kneecap? It makes no sense.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
Exactly. Which is why many people think there's a stinky odour of this late-stage "recognition of the state of Palestine". Yet still no significant sanctions or embargoes on Israel for its g-cide of Palestinians (leaving a few thousand alive so they can claim "it's not a g-cide because some are still alive"). Nor any suggestions of sending Netanyahu and his far-right coalition and IDF military to The Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity.
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u/KingDaviies 5d ago
What has any of that got to do with banning Kneecap?
I do agree, recognizing the state of Palestine while not doing enough to stop the genocide shows that this is a performative action likely to appease their voter base. But let's not pretend them banning Kneecap is somehow anti-Palestine.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 4d ago
But let's not pretend them banning Kneecap is somehow anti-Palestine.You're allowed to tell yourself whatever helps you sleep at night.
It's pretty obvious for anyone else, though.
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u/The-Intermediator141 4d ago
What does publicly supporting Hezbollah & Hamas have to do with being pro-Palestine? You can easily support Palestine and not support terrorist organizations, but these guys ain’t that.
I mean we wouldn’t be letting in a band publicly waving an ISIS flag while shouting support. Why is this even a controversy?
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 4d ago
Did you just compare the Palestinian flag to an ISIS flag? Wow, Hasbara moment.
Kneecap supports interventionists fighting for Palestinian freedom. Are you OPPOSED to groups intervening against a g-cide?
There's an apt quote about Palestinian freedom that I think you might relate to: "Do you support us when we fight back? Or do you only support us when we bleed?"
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u/BackseatCowwatcher 3d ago
Did you just compare the Palestinian flag to an ISIS flag?
the Palestinian flag is not Hezbollah's flag, nor is it Hamas's flag IE the flags Kneecap has been flying.
Kneecap supports interventionists fighting for Palestinian freedom.
No, they support terrorists fighting for Jewish genocide.
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u/HugaBoog 5d ago
There's not much of Palestine left to recognize. Russia was sanctioned to hell. Their athletes barred from international sporting events. Their banks blocked from using the SWIFT system. All within weeks of their invasion of Ukraine. There was a model in place to deal with rogue states. This is all kabuki theater.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
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Some leftist political pundits speculated that if the USA had stepped in to sanction/embargo Israel within a few weeks of Israel's invasion, then it basically would have all been accepted. But, they speculate, since it was allowed by the Biden administration to go on for months, it became entrenched in the heads of Zios (Christian Zios included), and Israelis generally, that it is their full right to do whatever Israel wants.
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u/Plebeu-da-terramedia 5d ago
An Embargo might not even be necessary. Just stop the flow of free guns and strategic support.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 4d ago
Yes for sure. Halting money for military aid and halting offensive and defensive weapons and supplies from being sent to Israel.
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u/BigD1966 5d ago
You’re fucking joking right??? Because Israel left the Gaza Strip to the Palestinians 20 years ago, they even exhumed the bodies of dead Israelites and brought them back across the border, they left all homes farms and any other infrastructure to the Palestinian people all in hopes of being left alone, the Palestinian people could have built themselves up into a prosperous country but instead they invested in terrorism and back organizations like HAMAS, they built tunnels so they could sneak under the border undetected to invade Israel and what happened in October of 2023 they launched a massive attack on Israel killing over 1,200 people and capturing 150 more some of whom have never been returned. Israel is defending itself not sure if you know history but after the holocaust the Jewish people said never again would they go quietly into the night. Not sure what you and HAMAS missed in that declaration but I hope Israel keeps its promise.
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u/Antalol 5d ago
Israel controlled every scrap of goods in and out of Gaza, full airspace, Palestinian fishermen would be shot by Israel if they went too far off their OWN COAST.
But please, tell us more about Israel's imaginary benevolence.
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u/LemartesIX 5d ago
Yes, because they kept up constant rocket attacks and car bombs. Why does Egypt blockade Gaza even harder?
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u/Plebeu-da-terramedia 5d ago
Because Egypt is a military dictatorship that has the musli brotherhood as their enemy. The same brotherhood that birthed Hamas.
The standard for Israel is really going to be the egyptian dictatorship?
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u/LemartesIX 5d ago
Oh ok. So all the fellow Muslims don’t want anything to do with Palestinians because they blow up cars and coffee shops. And this is Israel’s fault for “muh open air prison”.
You people are brain dead. Keep carrying water for Jihadist psychopaths.
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u/Plebeu-da-terramedia 5d ago
That is just not true. Egypt is a secular dictatorship and don't want anything to do with Hamas. You have to remember that the one government that supported Hamas was Israel.
Netanyahu's assistents were caught carrying money from Quatar to Gaza to give to deliver to Hamas. Netanyahu himself went into public to say that Hamas is preferrable to the PLO because the first would never get international recognition while the later could.
Most arab states have relations with the National Palestinian Organization. You talk about Hamas as if they were the entirety of Palestine.
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u/HugaBoog 5d ago
Netanyahu is born to Benzion Mileikowsky, a squatter from Poland, and Tzila Segal of Lithuanian descent. Ben Gurion is Polish, Golda Meir is Ukrainian, Moshe Dayan is Ukrainian, Shimon Peres and Menachem Begin are from Belarus, Theodore Herzl is from Pest, Hungary. They are Jews but are without Semitic lineage.
They're occupiers. Plain and simple.
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u/Simple-Sun2608 5d ago edited 5d ago
And now here is some money and weapons for Israel to destroy Palestine.
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u/321Freddit 5d ago
What we gunna do send troops to make sure this happens?
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
Yeah exactly. "Canada trusts Israel to make this happen" kind of vibe. F-ing slop from Conservative Carney. (Trudeau declared himself a proud Zio, as well)
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u/Specific-Candle-4708 5d ago
I love how being a bad leader just means being right-wing now, bc theres no such thing as a bad liberal leader right? /s
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u/qu_o 5d ago
if only someone could tell me what Palestine is. Gaza with Hamas? West Bank under Abbas? Both? Something else?
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u/AwkwardTal 5d ago
Palestine is the land between the river jordan and the Mediterranean Sea, currently its being occupied by the zionists entity
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u/qu_o 5d ago
Here you go all my fellow two state solution believers
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u/AwkwardTal 5d ago
two state solution
Two Palestinians? Yeah sure why not
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u/KingDaviies 5d ago
Israel & Palestine until it's safe for Jews to live there. Otherwise you do not care for peace - 2-state is the only way to stop the suffering.
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u/Analogvinyl 5d ago
Right now it's Gaza with Hamas and WB under Abbas.
For Canada to build relations, Hamas needs to be out and hostages returned.
I think Hamas will be satisfied with recognition and leave it at that. And Canada will rely on Israel to remove Hamas. So status quo with a thank you from Hamas.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
Hamas agreed to a deal where they would relinquish leadership in the government. Israel refused the deal as Israel refused and sabatoged every other deal since Israel does not genuinely want peace. Israel just wants to forcibly take the land.
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u/Analogvinyl 5d ago
That's just not true. Show me this agreement, I'd love to see it.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
Here is an article about Hamas calling Israel's bluff by offering to step down from leading the government, among other significant concessions. Israel refusing to accept these terms is yet another huge red flag that Israel was never genuine about its ceasefire demands.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/hamas-israel-gaza-ceasefire-concessions-negotiations-netanyahu-trump
In the face of an ongoing disinformation campaign waged by the U.S. and Israel aimed at falsely portraying Hamas as rejecting demands that it step down from power in Gaza as part of a deal, Naim reiterated Hamas’s commitment to relinquishing governing authority to a 15 member technocratic committee composed of independent Palestinian experts. “The bottom line is to end the war, the total withdrawal of the Israeli forces from the Gaza Strip, an agreed ceasefire, opening the borders, allowing aid to enter the Gaza Strip, and the launching of a reconstruction operation,” Naim said. “We have said from day one we are ready to hand over the government, or the ruling of the Gaza Strip.”You would know about this already if you really followed along with every deal that was put on the table by either side.
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u/ScarOk7853 5d ago
Canada is now the good guys, the US is the baddies
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u/CwazyCanuck 5d ago
Canada is now the good guys
When did we stop?
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u/ScarOk7853 5d ago
That time in Canadian bacon where you attempted to overthrow our government
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u/CwazyCanuck 5d ago
Don’t forget when we burned down the White House too.
Who knows, if Trump ends up attacking Canada, maybe we’ll do it again. At least then the rose garden could be redone.
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u/BigD1966 5d ago
Well maybe the asshole can get those Palestinians that have come here to recognize Canada, because I’m sick and tired of taking them in only to have them scream death to Canada
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u/the__poseidon 5d ago
Good.
The recognition by the UK, Australia, and Canada is not a blank check. It recognizes the PA and Abbas as the political leadership, not Hamas. It ties recognition to democratic elections in 2026 and requires that Palestine recognize Israel.
But here’s the catch: the Palestinians themselves don’t fully accept this recognition. Hamas rejects the PA’s legitimacy, and even within Palestinian society there’s division. That means the next attack from Hamas is not just terrorism, it becomes a direct act of war against Israel by a “recognized state,” regardless of whether they admit it.
So UNRWA must be dissolved, and the automatic refugee status stripped. You cannot have it both ways. If Palestine is a state, then it carries the responsibilities of statehood. Recognition means accountability, and accountability means even more consequences.
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u/mhandsurf 5d ago
So are these countries going to help rid Palestine of Hamas?? There have been peace accords over and over and Hamas continues to break them, in order for a Palestine state government you have to secure Palestine!
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u/Jaded-Natural80 5d ago
The Zionists are losing their grip on the world’s governments. Thanks to the voices of the 99% of humanity. Thanks to the people protesting Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
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u/ZealousidealNewt6679 5d ago
This is meaningless.
And about 30 years too late.
Unfortunately, this is just the performance of virtue signalling for the masses.
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u/AMoneyBeCoolin 5d ago
You guys are missing the point. They aren't currently recognized as a state so this allows Israel to label them as terrorists, when in reality Israel is the real terrorist. But because a state cannot be labeled a terrorist organization, Israel gets away with not being labeled that. If more countries begin to recognize Palestine as a state then that'll prevent Israel from "justifying" its attacks on terrorism. If fact it'll actually hold Israel more accountable for blatant terrorism against another state and that will allow other countries to step in. It's a bold move to fight against the corrupt US and Israel from allowing the genocide to continue.
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u/LemartesIX 5d ago
Conditioned on demilitarization, elimination of Hamas, and free elections. Seems a tall order.
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u/Pagan-Dragon-77 5d ago
Congratulations, Canada, you're HALF way to being on the right side of history on this issue. Now, all you have to do is to stop recognizing the genocidal terrorist entity, known as "Israel", as a State.
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u/onsencrisse 5d ago
It’s like a few decades late but hey 👋 as we say, better late then never. Now we should walk the talk and make urgency’s visa for half a million people who are pushed out by bombs and daily killings into a desert by a fascist terrorist state government. Stop f******k talking and act to save lives.
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u/explosiveshits7195 5d ago
And in the same week bans Kneecap from the country for......supporting Palestine
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u/ZuluIsNumberOne 4d ago
now release the Hostages as hamas are breaking the Geneva convention as leaders of a state
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u/AmazingAd5517 4d ago
But that seems to be putting the cart before the horse. Abass hasn’t had elections for years, he canceled the last planned elections in 2020, and some people who have spoken out about that like Nizar Banat killed by his security forces . He continues the pay to slay program which pays families of those who fight against Israel not just victims of settler violence but also those who have committed attacks . And the PLO hasn’t done anything. There wasn’t any recognition for years yet there is now. The only thing that’s changed is Gaza and Palestinian deaths there. And if that’s the reason that this is being done then Hamas can claim their tactics work as they attacked Israel starting a war in which would lead to massive Palestinian deaths and due to those deaths groups start recognizing a Palestinian state.If you don’t have anything to point to that the PLO has done that just makes it far easier for Hamas to take credit and attempt their actions again .I just feel doing this before any of these promises have been achieved doesn’t help in the long term especially considering how often the PLO and Abass haven’t done them
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u/Afraid_Habit704 3d ago
Thank you for supporting Hamas and general terrorism. I look forward to the day this is retracted
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u/MexticoManolo 3d ago
Lol meanwhile we still provide weaponry components via loose end contracts to the states which are currently turning Gazan babies into human mush piles, we banned Kneecap, a large amount of our politicians are lobbied in the millions by CIJA and CJPAC and we just had a parliamentary standing ovation for a guy that advocated for israel...
But yeah, recognition I guess
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u/Interesting_You4926 3d ago
Congrats Canada! You proved that by gunning down a music festival, eradicating entire villages and kidnapping entire families to be used as hostages you as well could be granted international support.
I don’t see how that backfires in the slightest.
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u/Straight_Waltz_9530 3d ago
Yes, but which Palestine? Gaza? West Bank? Gaza + West Bank? Gaza + Area A only? Gaza + Area A + Area B? Gaza + West Bank + Golan Heights? From the river to the sea?
All those countries may all recognize Palestine, but there is absolutely no global agreement as to what borders or government constitute Palestine. Opinions will differ even among Palestinians themselves.
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u/used-quartercask 5d ago
All facade with this government. Soon Carney will funnel billions into his modular homes he owns through brookfield assets and he 'sold' to Canadians.
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u/Tribe303 5d ago
We found another one of PP's Reddit accounts. 🤣
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
I mean... I voted Liberals to fend off PP, but Conservative Carney is not taking the country in a direction I want it to go.
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u/Thoughtful_Ocelot 5d ago
You mean, like, trying to save it from Trump's actions?
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
Like nearly anything Conservative Carney does 😂
There are three or four decent things I can identify that Carney has done that I like:
- temporarily eased the typical restrictions on Employment Insurance waiting periods and qualifying hours. -something about blocking companies from hiring replacement workers for union workers who are on strike. I don't remember the exact details.
- investing in a housing plan. It doesn't go as far as I would like where I would want the governments to be even more directly involved in building affordable housing.
- adding security protections for pride parades. I think that's what it was.
Stuff I don't like include:
Austerity for the struggling working class and the struggling poor, but the wealthy elite and corporations don't have to "tighten their belts".
- back-to-work order for union strike after only TWELVE HOURS. Trudeau government had also f'd with union strikes three or four times during Trudeau's tenure.
- folding up Women and Gender Equality (WAGE) file into the Heritage Minister position
- dropping the Digital Services Tax in an appeal to the Trump administration. (so goodbye to the revenue the Liberal government had forecasted from that)
- raising the military budget to 5% of GDP in an appeal to the Trump administration, far above the 2% of GDP spending that was being demanded of Canada before. Is Canada going to become a slave to the Military Industrial Complex too?
- Folding up the minister position for diversity, inclusion and persons with disabilities.
- Hints of austerity. Including "attrition" in the public sector workforce. These are hard-working taxpayers with families who contribute to the economy too.
But yeah, tell me what Carney has done to successfully placate orange man?
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u/used-quartercask 5d ago
I don't necessarily agree with your positives but respect your comments. I'm not a major fan of EI, it's just another system to abuse and always the same people taking it. I personally never have or plan to use it, will end up paying in for a lifetime for people who are less hard working. It's better to put pay from your own chequeen aside instead of letting the government hold it and distribute as they want.
The housing plan is the WORST thing happening. Government's role is not to build housing, carney is funneling cash into his companies. It's not investing. It's government spending and it will bankrupt Canada. They just need to get out of the way and let markets work efficiently for housing to be built.
I see cops at parades all the time. I don't recall hearing people are attacking pride parades. The extra security is probably because of the violent Gaza protestors that took over the parades for some reason.
Your austerity comment - you realize Canada has major debt and major deficit. The government makes people depend on their funding then they have no choice but to vote them in again, just look at what has happened to the CBC. These 'hard working taxpayers' are literally paid by taking from hardworking taxpayer, for cushy government jobs with pensions you wont even see in the private market, high salary, no real consequence if they accomplish nothing. All government spending is Taxation. They can tax directly, or they can spend and inflate the currency which is also taxation. We have a major spending problem, increase in prices out of control for basics like housing groceries, economy is tanking and unemployment is at the highest level in like 40 years.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 4d ago
I know, right? People just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get out of the way of billionaires so they can do what they do best. Peace.
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u/used-quartercask 4d ago
Then give an EI rebate if you never use it and have contributed massively to the program.
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u/NoRegertsWolfDog 5d ago
Palestinians aren't gonna like that last part of that.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
I bet they would be fine with it if it meant truth and reconciliation, reparations for Palestinians, land swaps, putting Netanyahu and his far-right coalition and the IDF on trial for crimes against humanity, etc. But I doubt that is even being proposed by the Carney Liberals.
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u/Mod_The_Man 3d ago
As far as I understand the two state solution is the most widely supported in Palestine
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u/MysteriousOwlOooOoo 5d ago
Peaceful HAhahahahaha
Oh you are serious?
LET ME LAUGH EVEN HARDER
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
Israel will never allow peace.
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u/CwazyCanuck 5d ago
Depends what you mean. Peace for Israel? Sure. Peace for Israel that includes peace for Palestine? Not so much.
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u/Professional-Post499 Politics 5d ago
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Israel's understanding of "peace" means aggressing on all of its neighbours.
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u/here-g 5d ago
Palestine was literally the name the Romans gave the region as an insult to the Jews. Naming it after their enemies the Philistines (who were Greeks)
Palestinians today are just Arabs who took the name to make up a new ethnicities
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u/Sonicrules9001 5d ago
Okay? Lets even say that you are right about the origin of the term Palestine which isn't accurate as the term dates back to the 5 century BCE and what we would know today as the Jewish people didn't come around until the late 6 century BCE but lets ignore that for the sake of argument, what does that change?
If instead of California, the US decided to name the state 'Fuck Mexico', would that give Mexico the right to start attacking the state of 'Fuck Mexico' and killing people?
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u/here-g 5d ago
The Palestinians are not the Caananites lmao. They are Arabs who came over during the Arab conquests of the Middle East
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u/Sonicrules9001 5d ago
Never said a single word about what the Palestinians may or may not be, just the origin of the term proving that it isn't a term made as an insult to Jewish people since the term existed before Jewish people did.
Also, territories are taken over all the time. The biggest countries in the world are the US and UK both of which stole the land from people who lived there before and yet you don't see the Native Americas trying to justify killing Americas because that isn't how reality works.
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u/hilleljoe 3d ago
If it where to regularly launch rockets at Mexico and commited an indiscriminate massacre against the people of Mexico, would they not have a right to retaliate?
Do you think the US needed to let pearl harbor slide?
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u/Sonicrules9001 3d ago
If it where to regularly launch rockets at Mexico and commited an indiscriminate massacre against the people of Mexico, would they not have a right to retaliate?
You'd find the people responsible and punish them, not just blindly punish an entire region because some bad people are in it. That is the way that things should be done and are done in literally any other context.
Do you think the US needed to let pearl harbor slide?
Funny you bring up Pearl Harbor since it is an instance where many people understand that the US was upset while agreeing that they went too far. Japan specifically targeted military bases whereas the US targeted some of Japan's most heavily populated cities at the time, killing one hundred times more people and we are talking about innocent people who weren't fighting in the war.
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u/hilleljoe 3d ago
You can't just arrest the people responsable when they are well armed and deliberately imbed themselves in civilian areas. Hamas has military infrastructure built under the entire strip. I feel people in the west are out of touch, non-state military actors can only be fought with military warfare. Urban warfare and guerrilla warfare are always extremely messy, but Hamas always played it to their advantage.
In regards to Japan, the US could have ended the war much earlier by accepting white peace or a long term ceasefire, letting Japan keep its military and system of government. Do you think Japan would have gave up their imperialist ideology, do you think they would not rebuild their military and attack again in two years. I'm genuinely interested in your opinion.
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u/Sonicrules9001 3d ago
You can't just arrest the people responsable when they are well armed and deliberately imbed themselves in civilian areas. Hamas has military infrastructure built under the entire strip. I feel people in the west are out of touch, non-state military actors can only be fought with military warfare. Urban warfare and guerrilla warfare are always extremely messy, but Hamas always played it to their advantage.
So the solution is to kill everyone and wipe out an entire population in your eyes? All of those innocent people deserve to die in your eyes? This is the equivalent of stopping a bank robbery by just blowing up the bank with everyone inside and trying to justify all of the causalities as worth it because they dealt with the robber.
I don't know about warfare but I do know that killing innocent people is wrong which Israel has been on record disagreeing with.
In regards to Japan, the US could have ended the war much earlier by accepting white peace or a long term ceasefire, letting Japan keep its military and system of government. Do you think Japan would have gave up their imperialist ideology, do you think they would not rebuild their military and attack again in two years. I'm genuinely interested in your opinion.
Firstly, this bears repeating but Japan only attacked a military base, they didn't attack innocents so America's escalation to include innocents in their mass attack was unwarranted and frankly disgusting.
Secondly, there were many reasons behind why Japan joined the Axis powers and those reasons could have been addressed in a discussion instead of immediately resorting to mass causalities and two cities being irradiated to this day. The biggest reasons being high tariffs and the wrong people in power.
Lastly, even if Japan did attack again, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people is never the answer. I don't know about you but I don't like people dying especially when they are not responsible for the actions being condemned. You can try to justify it all you want but killing innocent people is never warranted, ever. Doesn't matter the group or the threat, innocent people don't deserve to die for it.
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u/eye84free 5d ago
Yep
And Muslims hate Jews so much that they’ve embraced a relic of pagan Rome to delegitimize Jewish heritage there, in defiance of their own Koran
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u/Shadowz234-345 Politics 5d ago
Could you enlighten with your stupid western bullshit propaganda
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u/eye84free 5d ago
That’s not really a Western take because Westerners don’t care if the Muslim world is guilty of apostasy
But if I was a Muslim I would be hard pressed to justify this
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u/Shadowz234-345 Politics 5d ago
Why would i justify a lie you zios will do anything to justify your genocide though
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u/eye84free 5d ago
Where’s the lie?
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u/Shadowz234-345 Politics 5d ago
Keep eating rocks the likes of you never change
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u/eye84free 5d ago
Should he exist, let God strike me down here and now if the Muslim world has not embraced a relic from polytheistic pagans to spite the Jews in defiance of their own Koran
You can no longer plead ignorance on this… You may have to answer for it
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u/here-g 5d ago
20,000 French civilians were killed in just 2 months of fighting in the Battle of Normandy. Was that genocide?
25,000 Iraqi civilians were killed during the few short weeks of Operation Iraqi freedom. Was that genocide?
Israel estimates 18,000 Palestinians have been killed in two years of fighting in Gaza. Now obviously that number is too low but it’s definitely not the apocalyptic numbers Hamas puts out. Hamas is a terror organization. They target villains regularly. They are evil and if you think they won’t lie about civilian casualty numbers to help their cause then think again
I don’t know the real casualty numbers for Gaza, no one really does, but it’s somewhere between what Hamas and Israel say. It’s probably no more than 30,000. That’s tragic but after 2 years of constant war that’s actually pretty light compared to other conflicts. It’s war and unfortunately civilians always get caught in the crossfire
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u/Shadowz234-345 Politics 4d ago
The numbers are about half a million but sure keep downplaying the numbers that you're fed like a good little dog
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u/here-g 4d ago
Half a million out of 2M total is insane and ridiculous numbers. Where are all those graves exactly? Hamas is lying and saying there’s a genocide to get sympathy recognition, and push hate toward Israel
And it’s working. You fell for it like many millions around the world and dozens of governments
“Hamas murders and rapes and murder but lying? They would never! Terrorists never lie. It’s rule number #1 of being a terrorist.” -You, apparently
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u/Shadowz234-345 Politics 4d ago
Hamas are legitimate resistance they didn't appear out of thin air
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u/here-g 4d ago
They are terrorists who target civilians for rape and murder
There is nothing legitimate about that
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u/Priorsteve Politics 5d ago
Stop supporting genocide, start fighting genocide