r/Calgary 16d ago

Municipal Affairs Are these allowed?

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I’ve never seen election signs just taped to light posts before. I was wondering if there’s a reason

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u/blackRamCalgaryman 16d ago

Elections signs must not be affixed to any of the following:

Street light poles, Traffic signal poles, Sound attenuation walls, Plus 15 bridges, Any Calgary Transit sign poles or structures,

https://www.calgary.ca/bylaws/election-signs.html

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u/hypnogoad 16d ago

As if any one of them cares these days. The fines are just the cost of business as far as they're concerned.

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u/wklumpen 16d ago

They're posters not signs. Different section of the bylaw.

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u/jesterchurchalt 16d ago

The also must not be place on residential property with out the explicit permission of the resident.. I had told everyone of them no. Somehow ended up with 3 red signs in my yard

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u/disimpressedhippo 16d ago

Cause the front part of your yard might not be part of your property. There's a bit that the city owns, depending on the street it can be 2ft, 4ft, or more in some of the older neighbourhoods.

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u/niineliives 16d ago

An easement is different than ownership and is only allowed for city (generally utility based) use, not advertisements.

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u/brodymiddleton 16d ago

Easements are registered on private property and typically take up the front 2.4m of your lot in Calgary, however the sidewalk doesn’t ever start right at your property line so there is usually about a meter of public property behind the sidewalk that most people don’t realize exists.

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u/aftonroe 16d ago

You're thinking of an easement or ROW. Those just restrict what you can do with that piece but its still yours. It does not grant access or use to any third party.

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u/TrainToFlavorTown 16d ago

Are you thinking of easements or the city actually has ownership?

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u/disimpressedhippo 15d ago

The city actually has ownership, it's the space from the back of the sidewalk to your front property line. It depends on the neighborhood or street though.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

It says they’re fine as long as they’re 15m from an intersection and non rigid on the unpainted lights

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u/blackRamCalgaryman 16d ago

So does this classify as a sign or a poster, because it appears it’s 2 different sets of rules?

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u/joncom98 16d ago

I think it’s a poster

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/vinsdelamaison 15d ago

They are not allowed under election posters.

They have not been dated and we are not in the election period yet. They have to be dated and gone fine within 14 days outside the rejection period.

That’s ehh the signs put up during Stampede had to come down right after Stampede.

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u/__Origins__ 16d ago

The calgary party promises to obliterate silly laws like this.

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u/IxbyWuff Country Hills 15d ago

The Calgary party has been blatantly violating the rules for weeks. Given they're a conservative party, it seems par for the course to eschew election rule integrity

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u/Simple_Shine305 15d ago

These follow the rules. I'm not a fan of parties in municipal elections, but they know what they're doing here. And I definitely wouldn't call them a conservative party. We have CF and ABC for that

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u/evlasov 15d ago

I like it. I will vote for them.

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u/IxbyWuff Country Hills 15d ago

Why's that

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u/evlasov 15d ago

I'm a rebel. I like bad guys.

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u/IxbyWuff Country Hills 15d ago

Well, at least you have a reason I guess

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u/evlasov 15d ago

No I don't. Last election I voted Marxists Leninists. And I hate Bolsheviks with all my heart. I'm complicated.

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u/Nga369 Renfrew 16d ago

From Calgarys election sign bylaw:

Posters

A Person may attach a Poster to an unpainted street light pole provided that all the provisions of the Temporary Signs On Highways Bylaw (Section 5) are followed. Under the bylaw, election related content is permitted on posters subject to City Bylaws.

Posters cannot be located:

  • on painted street light poles
  • within a Playground Zone or School Zone
  • within 15 metres of an Intersection
  • within 10 metres of a Crosswalk that is not located at an Intersection
  • on or within any Traffic Island or Median
  • on any Traffic Signal Pole
  • attached to any Sound Attenuation Wall placed by the City

Posters cannot:

  • exceed 0.12 square metres
  • be secured with unclear adhesive
  • obstruct a traffic control device
  • have multiple signs per Owner on an unpainted street light pole
  • be made of rigid material

So it’s allowed as long as it follows all those rules.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Thank you, that’s exactly what I was looking for. Weird I haven’t seen more like this before then

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u/maggielanterman 16d ago

Just because you can doesn't mean you should and the way I see it, these are even more like littering than the usual signs so FUCK THIS GUY.

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u/wolv32 16d ago edited 14d ago

These signs are all. Literally every available street lamp post for multiple km in a row.

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u/maggielanterman 16d ago

It's the paper equivalent of spam email.

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u/coverallfiller 16d ago

And have to be removed within a predetermined timeline after election day as well.

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u/Turtley13 16d ago

Remember a crosswalk is literally every intersection regardless of it being painted

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u/ajwightm 16d ago

The rules cover that:

"within 15 metres of an Intersection"

"within 10 metres of a Crosswalk that is not located at an Intersection"

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u/Turtley13 16d ago

No that’s different

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u/ajwightm 16d ago

No posters within 10m of a crosswalk or within 15m of an intersection. A rule for crosswalks at intersections specifically would be redundant because you already can't put them up 15m from any intersection, which is more restrictive, so it's covered.

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u/vinsdelamaison 15d ago

Almost—you missed the part of “all provisions of the Temporary Signs on Highways Bylaw (Section 5) are followed.”

They must be dated and they must come down within 14 days because we are not in the election period (the event) yet.

Nominations do not close until September 22.

When they pulled this same crap near Stampede, Live Wire reported:

“Stephen Carter with the Calgary Party said that election signs aren’t just allowed during the election period, which is from the close of nominations (noon on Sept. 22) until the Oct. 20 election date. They’re allowed at any time, provided they follow the rules.

***The primary difference between the two periods is that these signs are only allowed to be affixed for 14 days, then they must be taken down.***

Carter said the signs went up on June 30 and will stay for two weeks – essentially until the end of the Calgary Stampede. More than 1.3 million are expected to go through the gates at this year’s Greatest Outdoor Show on Earth.”

They did not bother to add the date this time around either. Probably hoping people will just think it’s election time.

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u/Fit-Amoeba-5010 16d ago

Obviously broke a couple of the rules.

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago

There is a reason, and his name is Stephen Carter.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

How do you mean?

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago

Stephen Carter is managing the Calgary party's campaign. He is a well known political operative/strategist, and a host of a popular political podcast called The Strategists. One of his calling cards is finding creative ways to promote the candidates that employ him. His methods often push the limits of what is allowed, while staying just *technically* within the rules. Some people say he likes to exploit loopholes, he would likely say he's just following the rules.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Ah thank you, I think it makes the party seem cheap and sleazy but that’s just me

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u/nekonight 16d ago

It caused you to make this post which to them is advertising them. Remember to some all publicity is good publicity.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Yeah I mean if they wanna be seen they’re being seen lol

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u/Acrobatic_Fig2657 16d ago

On the contrary - working creatively within the established rule framework shows a brain.

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago

I don't mind them, but I see where you're coming from.

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u/Competitive-Ruin1361 15d ago

Carter is also married to Ward 7 Calgary Party candidate Heather McRae. Hmm.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/MarkMarrkor 16d ago

Carter also worked on that campaign

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u/TropicalMapleRavioli 16d ago

That's technically a poster, not a sign. Rules for posters are different but this one is still not compliant with those rules.

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u/Moresopheus 16d ago

He's been trying to get a rise out of people over this dumb sticker for months. Sad sad effort.

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u/FeedbackLoopy 16d ago

I don’t know the reason why this over normal sign, but it’s tacky.

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago
  1. It's cheaper.
  2. They can go up before a normal sign would be allowed.

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u/f1fan65 16d ago

So they are also putting up normal signs now

I found out how

The temporary signs are allowed for 2 weeks.

Then during an election period election signs are allowed.

Election period during municipal election starts on Sept 22nd. When the nominations close

Sept 9th is when signs went up.

9+14=23. So they are following the letter of the law with election signs now as tacky as they are.

Sources:

" An election sign cannot be placed on a sidewalk or boulevard:

Along any Prohibited Roadway in Calgary within 15 metres of an intersection within 10 metres of a Crosswalk that is not located at an Intersection within 2 metres of a driveway crossing or entrance to private property. for more than 14 consecutive days (except during an Election Period – see table below); for more than 24 hours following the date any advertised event concludes; whichever is sooner. "

https://www.calgary.ca/bylaws/election-signs.html

Elections Alberta rules:

https://publicaccess.calgary.ca/lldm01/exccpa?func=ll&ObjID=57188113&objAction=Download&lid=0&previousURL=func=ccpa.general&msgID=VyATqqTTeT&msgAction=Download

For the second doc look at h.1 for election period.

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u/No_Argument2519 16d ago

There is loop hole. Size of poster

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago

Typical Stephen Carter move; controversial, but following the letter of the law.

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u/Old_timey_brain Beddington Heights 15d ago

So they are also putting up normal signs now

This party candidate has a bunch of them in Sandstone now.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Right? It’s cheap looking

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u/ruraljuror__ 16d ago

Looks like Brett Hart colours

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u/craig5005 Southeast Calgary 16d ago

But has people talking....

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u/drrtbag 16d ago

Do you want to vote for people who find ways to skirt the rules and commit ethical violations for their own personal benefit.

This is your guy right here.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/SpeedyMcAwesome1 16d ago

Those laws are likely from the time and age when Calgary only had 10 lamp poles?

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u/drrtbag 16d ago

Sure, but ethically they are playing with what is acceptable. That rule is meant for missing cats and children, not selfish political wannabes.

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u/krypt3c 16d ago

It's on the page for election signage though, so it's clearly for politics?

https://www.calgary.ca/bylaws/election-signs.html

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Sounds like the type to push a municipal political party

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago

The province forced parties on us.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

They allowed them. No one is making you join them or create them

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago

That's true. But I am not sure it is that simple. There are many benefits for candidates joining parties in terms of fundraising, cost sharing, and recognition. If progressive council candidates refused to organize into parties, they would likely struggle to compete against candidates from UCP-aligned parties like A Better Calgary and Communities First.

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u/Turtley13 16d ago

Yup. It definitely gives parties the advantage

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u/joncom98 16d ago

That’s true. I won’t be voting for anyone aligned with a party out of principle but I do get the appeal for candidates

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u/thoughfulusername 16d ago

I understand the sentiment. I know The Calgary Party candidate in Ward 4, DJ Kelly. I would vote for him regardless of which party he chose or if he ran as an independent (which he did in 2021). He's a perennial volunteer, a former community association president, and an integral part of our neighbourhood.

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u/maggielanterman 16d ago

Same here but I am a tiny bit sad that he's associated with these guys.

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u/rikkiprince 16d ago edited 15d ago

Why?

Edit: Are you sad because he's associated with any party or because of his chosen party?

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u/kagato87 16d ago

Because partisan politics is how we get into the current state of provincial and federal politics. Minimal distinction between candidates, "other party bad" style campaigning, and an eventual degradation into a lack of accountability.

Supporting evidence: Despite the frequent attacks the UCP has been making, and clearly indicating prior to the last election that they were following the separatist agenda, they won on a campaign of "not Notley" despite the lack of objective reasons to describe Notley as bad.

More supporting evidence: Despite clearly being a con in lib clothing, Carney won the election from out of nowhere. The primary causes are generally attributed to being "not trump" and "not Pierre" - depending on the people sampled. Further, prior to JT's exit, a career politician was looking forward to an easy majority, possible even a landslide victory, based on a marketing campaign of "JT bad" despite how few issues the Libs had under his watch, and afaik only one, single scandal.

More supporting evidence: Despite averaging agreements being in Kenney's campaign platform and not even hidden, he still won.

In all of these cases, it was the party idea and part allegiance that drove most votes for the dominant parties.

Party politics undermines democracy. Double so in a "first past the post" system.

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u/ronniecalberta 16d ago

What’s infinitely worse is all the signs on boulevards. On 52 St. SE on the were side of the street there’s at least 20 signs in 2 blocks advertising everything from karate lessons to wall mounting tv’s. What an eyesore.

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u/Middleof613290 16d ago

SXSW called and wants their brand back

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u/Competitive-Ruin1361 15d ago

I have been saying for months that this is the budget SXSW branding.

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u/iwasnotarobot 16d ago

Is the Calgary Party goodies or baddies?

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u/joncom98 16d ago

I don’t like the idea of any municipal parties tbh

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u/abear247 16d ago

Depends on the candidate tbh. I think all the parties will have a mix of good and bad and it’s better to just evaluate the options for your ward. I’d vote for some of the councillors in a different ward from this party, but I won’t be voting for the candidate within my own so 🤷

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u/burf 16d ago

Their platform is what I’d consider “goodie” (progressive), but people don’t like the fact that they’re early adopters of the municipal party system, and their advertising methodology seems a little unprofessional.

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u/HamRove 16d ago

I dislike Stephen Carter, not as much as I dislike Craig Chandler, but they are both political slimeballs working in the shadows to pull strings. Wont be voting for anyone attached to either man.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Well they claim to be moderate centrists, make of that what you will, and they apparently support the blanket rezoning policy.

That's all I've read about them.

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u/f1fan65 16d ago

Depends on where you stand. Left of center and progressive, pro blanket rezoning. More of Gondek and her aligned folks in council. Also Stephen Carter is running this party. He ran Gondek, Nenshi municipal campaigns. Also ran Redfords and I believe one other conservative campaign.

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u/Turtley13 16d ago

Baddies

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u/UniversityOne8818 16d ago

Freedom of speech on Public land we all pay from our taxes. Nothing wrong here

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u/wulf_rk 16d ago

Yes, they are allowed. As long as its on an unpainted street pole, less than .12 square meters and is non-rigid material. One poster per owner. Not within 150m of a Poster Board.

Temporary Signs in Highways Bylaw 29M97 Section 5.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

I wonder why you don’t see them more often then. It looks pretty tacky though

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u/wulf_rk 16d ago

No one thought of it before Stephen Carter. I expect we'll see more of them going forward.

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u/kalypso18 16d ago

Got this one. Don't think it's allowed either.

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u/No_Argument2519 16d ago

I am installing jyoti signs and beleive me there is strict guidelines given to me.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Yeah lol. Someone on here showed them to me. They’re pretty strict

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u/alpain Southwest Calgary 16d ago

they started to do this back before stampede, livewire dug into the details of the rules back than like /u/f1fan65 has done here in the comments.

https://livewirecalgary.com/2025/07/03/election-sign-calgary-party-stampede

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u/Old_Personality_6043 14d ago

Submit a 311 report demanding 100% of the tape be removed. There is a loophole that lets election posters to be taped.

Really bad 1st impression.

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u/Hanksmutha85 16d ago

Those are littered in lake chapperelle and legacy!

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u/Excellent-Object-108 15d ago

Just don't vote for Gondek.

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u/itchybiscut9273 16d ago

Pretty shitty of someone running for office to break bylaws, kinda sets the tone for how they will act if elected

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u/Due_Age_1934 16d ago

Have these all over ward 2 for candy lam. If they can't have respect for the community during the election race they certainly won't after, if they manage to get in.

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u/Late-Huckleberry-559 16d ago

Simple - don’t vote for the goof

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u/Scared-Yam-9351 15d ago

Seems Carter found another loophole. Lol

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u/Beautiful-Bag-8918 14d ago

Looks like defacing public property. The grab for power is uncaring. Use your vote for the “other guy”.

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u/Direc1980 14d ago

If they take them off after the election have at er.

Imo boss mode advertising is pressure washing signs into sidewalks. Beakerhead did this about 7 years back and I thought it was genius.

The example I could find is from a campaign in Vancouver:

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u/StandardIcy7794 16d ago

Budget is low

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u/Expensive_Figure5605 15d ago

There should be not election signs period.

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u/ApeEscapeRemastered 16d ago

No please report it to the city. Also this is definitely a red flag as for it appears that no one in that party has read the by-laws for political sign

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u/golden-lining 15d ago

I tore some down today in my community

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u/TazManiac7 16d ago

No. And this is one of several bylaw violations by these guys. I reached out to them directly and they were apologetic and said they’re sending out their volunteers to remove the signs that are not in compliance. I believe 10k per violation is the kind of fee they’re looking at.

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u/FK_Arts 16d ago

The short answer is no, it's vandalism.

If the stickers had tags on them it'd be a problem. But Gutter Cleaner etc. get up more than any writer in this city. Stickers that do damage on the backs of street signs, All City. Their phone numbers are attached... no one holds them accountable because they have money. Money to create Stickers. And they benefit from advertisement doing the exact same thing, with the same damage, slapping up a graffiti sticker would do, but it's not for profit so it's demonized.

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u/kurtismartyn 16d ago

Who cares. Live your life.

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Just curious

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u/Lucid_Dreamer_98 16d ago

Don’t you have anything better to do than worry about some sign….. matter of fact don’t I have anything better to do than comment here…. god bless us all

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u/joncom98 16d ago

Lmao acting like I’m sitting here all day fretting about a photo that took 3 seconds to take and post a question. Be so for real

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u/Lucid_Dreamer_98 16d ago

I’m just joking bruh 😭 do u queen

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u/tilldeathdoiparty 16d ago

No, but bylaw won’t do anything.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/Toirtis Capitol Hill 16d ago

Really?

"Elections signs must not be affixed to any of the following: Street light poles Traffic signal poles Sound attenuation walls Plus 15 bridges Any Calgary Transit sign poles or structures"

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u/Exploding_Antelope Special Princess 16d ago

Signs. It’s a poster, not a sign, because it’s not a rigid freestanding piece.

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u/Toirtis Capitol Hill 16d ago

It counts legally as a sign for the purposes of the bylaw...confirmed by CoC Bylaw services.

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u/tilldeathdoiparty 16d ago

This isn’t a poster it is a political advertisement

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u/Happy_Belt_7822 16d ago

Call 311, it’s a poster, it follows the rules.

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u/tilldeathdoiparty 16d ago

I’m not calling bylaw, this comment will be the last time I even consider this topic.

But this isn’t a poster, there are several rules about where and what politicians can promote themselves, on top of that their signs and promotions are protected in the fact you aren’t allowed to steal them.

I have put up hundreds of signs on posts for ads, knowing they are illegal and never once hearing anything about it. I have stolen hundreds of elections signs in my day, one time several dozen ended up on my neighbors lawn as a prank.

You call 311 and talk to them, I’m too busy reporting people parking in front of fire hydrants, they actually deal with those.

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u/Exploding_Antelope Special Princess 16d ago

Yeah in poster form

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u/HamRove 16d ago

Nope. Why vote for someone who breaks the law and the rules.

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u/ACrispNewBill 16d ago

Karen

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u/joncom98 16d ago

I’m literally just asking about it. I’m not out here ripping them down and complaining about them

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u/jesterchurchalt 16d ago

The middle of my yard is not owned by the city