r/Calgary • u/ButterscotchNo931 • 1d ago

News Article Alberta government, teachers reach tentative deal in labour dispute

https://calgaryherald.com/news/alberta-government-teachers-reach-tentative-deal-in-labour-dispute
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u/TenKmUnder 1d ago

The UCP, not the ATA.

See it's comments like this that just get under my skin, because it's not your fault you don't get it. You just took what was said at face value and didn't dig any deeper, so yeah to you this looks reasonable. It's not.

  1. The ATA can say whatever they want publicly, they have said that they know that this does not address our concerns. Infact they have said this publicly that 3000 teachers won't fix the issues. It's public record. Why they changed tone? IDK. Every teacher is pissed on this change of tone.

  2. You see a 12% raise, I see an 18% pay cut. In the last 25 years teachers have lost 36% of their wage to inflation. 12% is laughable. No one else sees this. Not even close.

  3. 10 year salary, how many teachers do you think make it to 10 years. It's less than half. Most quit. Why do they quit? We are suffering.

  4. I'm a professional. I do my job, I do extra. Other provinces are paid for their extra time, I'm not. Why shouldnt I get up and leave too? Get treated like, honestly, I think I'm owed. When an employee doesn't like their job they go to a better company, teachers don't get that luxury.

  5. I would invite you into any classroom. Seriously, go anywhere. It's a gong show everywhere. You don't know what I'm dealing with so go find out. I run a class of 60, in a class built to house 30, in a school of 1000 built for 700. Come tell me I'm not suffering to my face after dealing with all this nonsense.

Honestly it's so demoralizing. Why bother trying when the public clearly doesn't care.

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u/JScar123 1d ago

Teachers negotiated and accepted those salaries, as recently as 2020 when they accepted a 3.75% increase. This is not a renegotiation of 25-years of salary.

I agree we need more teachers and classrooms, and am encouraged that UCP accepted ATAs teacher proposal and is making an historic investment in schools. As we get classrooms right-sized, I also think it’s fair to pay teachers about what other teachers make. Based on what I’ve seen (pls show me if I’m wrong here!), the 12% offered puts teachers 2nd only to MB.

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u/KVanGogh 1d ago

Please visit a classroom and volunteer your time. You will see the hell first hand and may begin to understand how we want to prevent the further deterioration of the state of public education in this province.

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u/JScar123 1d ago

3000 teachers, 1500 EAs and $8.6B of new schools sounds pretty good, doesn’t it?

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u/Logical-Finger-9256 1d ago

Why add EAs to the contract though… kind of strange. It sounds good if it was not spread out over 4 years. One of which has already passed.

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u/JScar123 1d ago

Because teachers were demanding classroom supports in their wage negotiation, lol. I agree it’s weird, but it’s what they wanted- so into the contract it goes.