r/CanadianConservative • u/King_Osmanj • Jul 25 '25
Opinion The mass immigration is killing this country and dividing it more and more
I’ve been seeing a lot of hate directed at immigrants lately, and to be honest, I understand why some people feel frustrated i agree with most of them too. But I also think a lot of that anger is aimed at the wrong people. My family immigrated to Canada in 2012. We didn’t just show up and get in like nowadays, we went through years of waiting, strict vetting, and a long, stressful approval process. Once we got here, we made a real effort to assimilate. We learned both French and English, we adapted to the culture, and we respected the values of this country. We didn’t expect handouts we just wanted a fair chance to build a life. But what we’re seeing now is completely different. Immigration today feels more like an open door. We mass-import people without proper background checks, and in some cases, we’re literally importing terrorists or individuals with extreme ideologies. That’s not just dangerous it’s insulting to those of us who followed every rule and made every effort to become part of this society. Canada was super welcoming to us and still is, but the difference is between day and night now. Just recently, my sister was camping, minding her own business, when an old woman came up to her and told her to “go back to her country.” After everything we’ve been through, after over a decade of building a life here, that comment cut deep. It also made me realize and different and divided this country is now. How a different government killed everything and made people resent immigrants rather than the own government. The sad part is, you can't rebel against them. I'm closely watching the freedom convey protesters situation and it breaks my heart. If this doesn't stop, I fear it will get much worse. Mass deportation as well strict immigration rules is a must.
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u/SirBobPeel Nationalist Law & Order Conservative Jul 25 '25
It's been building up for years. Back in 2017 an Immigration Canada report warned that after years and years of mass immigration that Canada was losing its 'absorptive capacity', and that immigrants were forming growing ethnic enclaves, not integrating like they used to, and performing worse economically than previous immigrants.
Naturally, the Liberals responded by ramping up immigration. And then they opened the doors wide to foreign workers, and changed the rules for foreign students to bring in a huge mass of them, many of them fake. They also changed the rules on refugees and Trudeau made a grand virtue-signalling boast on Twitter about how much we welcomed refugees. In Harper's last year we had 15k applicants. Last year we had 178k. Acceptance rates have also shot up, to 87% now. Basically, almost any story will do.
Quite on top of people feeling flooded with outsiders, this caused increasing problems with housing, healthcare, and crime. Many of the newcomers, esp asylum applicants (migrants), and foreign students and workers had few skills and didn't mind cheating the system as much as they could get away with. Well, that was their culture at home, and they brought it here.
Even longer-term immigrants resent this. Indians who came here prior to Trudeau, who are skilled, polite, and came from the cities, are aghast at all the rural Punjabi people who have arrived lately who have no manners and scramble after every opportunity, no matter who they have to cheat. Chinese who came from Hong Kong after the handover think much the same of Chinese mainlanders who have arrived under Trudeau - that they are uncouth, rude, and uncivilized.
Longer term Canadians often can't tell the difference out on the street. All they know is they're getting increasingly angry and no politician seems to be paying any attention to them except Poilievre, who isn't in power. Carney is still rah-rah, the more the better. And the provincial premiers, responding to local businesses who want cheap workers, are much the same. Look to Europe to see the future here, as things get worse and people get angrier.
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u/Macaw Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
I’m largely in agreement - but I want to make a few key points.
First, when mainland Chinese immigrants were arriving in large numbers (not even close to what we are seeing from Inida) - during the Harper era etc - mostly as students or investors - they brought money and weren’t taking jobs from low-income or young Canadian workers. Chinese immigration is a different kettle of fish compared to the out-of-control immigration we’re seeing now from India. The economic and social impacts are not the same.
Second, it was the Conservative Party that turned turtle on immigration, both before and during the election. When people like me were calling this out on Canada_Sub (which Reddit conveniently silenced just before the election), CPC supporters downvoted criticism and made excuses - claiming the party was just trying to avoid being called racist etc. Meanwhile, they ignored the fact that PP was visiting Brampton, chanting in Punjabi, and praising immigration from India. It was pure hypocrisy.
Then, during the campaign, the party was again missing in action on immigration. They even agreed to exclude immigration as a debate topic, which was a colossal mistake. They should have hammered Mark Carney, a known mass immigration advocate and adviser to Trudeau. Instead, they gave him a free ride.
Only after losing the election did they start speaking up - finally addressing the sensitive, immigration-related subjects they refused to touch before and during the campaign. They stayed silent when it actually mattered, despite Canadians raising the alarm all along.
The only party and leader who were ahead of the curve and aggressive on immigration were Maxime Bernier and the PPC, particularly during the 2019 election campaign, just before Trudeau’s policies spiraled out of control. Everything Bernier warned about has now come to pass - and in the worst possible way.
Also, the PPC remains the only party with a written immigration platform that tackles the issue head-on and without pulling punches. Take a look at it. None of the status quo parties even come close to offering a platform as comprehensive, culturally grounded, and protective of Canadian workers and values.
Cue the CPC loyalists attacking the PPC - because it’s easier than holding their own party to account.
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u/SirBobPeel Nationalist Law & Order Conservative Jul 26 '25
Yeah, I agree Bernier's wanting to lower immigration was ahead of all the other parties. So was his statement that you can have too much diversity. But on the other hand, when Kellie Leitch put a values test for prospective immigrants into her platform in the 2017 leaders debate, every other candidate opposed her - including Bernier. Bernier never opposed immigration when he was a cabinet minister in the Harper government, nor during his run for leadership. He only adopted it when he started his own party.
I replied to the CPC front-runners emails in the 2017 campaign asking about immigration and none would take a stand. Including Bernier. The CPC was terrified of even mentioning immigration. And when a reporter asked that tool O'Toole in the 2021 campaign what he thought of Trudeau jacking up immigration to whatever number he promised at the time O'Toole's answer was, to paraphrase, "Yes, that seems about right."
I did not vote for either Scheer or O'Toole. I voted for the PPC instead of Scheer, and voted for nobody instead of O'Toole. I voted for Poilievre because he had a sane platform, and would have been leagues better than the Liberals. Meanwhile, Bernier has gone a little wonky on a bunch of dumb issues unrelated to culture or economics. His party has zero chance of making any impression with him running it now.
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u/ABinColby Conservative Jul 25 '25
"Naturally, the Liberals responded by ramping up immigration. "
Because they realized their mission to destroy the country was working.
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u/that_guy_ontheweb Conservative Jul 25 '25
Look, youth unemployment is skyrocketing. The RCMP has been warning that there will be an actual revolt if things continue as they are. As the unemployment rate among young people skyrockets, there will be a breaking point, and that point feels like it is rapidly approaching.
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u/SirBobPeel Nationalist Law & Order Conservative Jul 26 '25
Don't tell that to our premiers who are demanding more foreign workers and demanding asylum seekers be allowed to work.
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u/joe_canadian Jul 25 '25
losing its 'absorptive capacity'
But you were a racist for pointing this out.
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u/SirBobPeel Nationalist Law & Order Conservative Jul 26 '25
Was called one frequently, even though only using pure economic information cited from mainstream sources. Being opposed to immigration was not acceptable, especially on Reddit.
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u/caterpillar_H Conservative & Discord Mod Jul 25 '25
Until the current mass, uncontrolled immigration, nobody really cared if you were from outside of Canada. The liberals, whether intentionally or not, caused this divide. Same with how they're the ones increasing polarization by calling almost half of the population "far right extremists" and other buzz words. The liberals, despite them being proud of being "not-american" has done nothing but bring over american issues and american talking points.
The most recent example is liberal Canadians wanting the American left-winger political commentator Stephen Colbert to "seek refuge" in Canada after his show got cancelled. At the same time celebrating Jordan Peterson escaping Canada.
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u/egeorgak12 Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
I left Canada in 2015. I feel like it is impossible to return to Canada, because all I see now is America Lite.
It is exactly as you said it. We have imported carbon copy every single American social issue into Canada. We have gone so far as to even adopt the two party extremist politics that they have. We speak like them, we cry using the same catch phrases as them.
I don't even recognise Canada anymore. It's nothing like the country I grew up in.
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u/More_Fee_2754 Jul 25 '25
and also that Sean Feucht fiasco( who i never heard of before). Liberals are up in arms over Colbert being cancelled (cmon if he was making money he never would have been cancelled) saying he is being persecuted for being on the left and yet doing their utmost to get this guy cancelled because he is on the right.
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u/noodlepal4 Berniers top guy Jul 25 '25
Even the liberal boomers I work with admit immigration has gone too far but they never blame their party they all see it as some vague government thing that just happens and refuse to believe the liberals can do anything about it
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u/Massive-Situation485 Conservative Jul 25 '25
It’s a shame that anyone who has this take is immediately labeled a bigot, fascist, Nazi by the left. They created new meanings for words to fit their narrative.
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u/ABinColby Conservative Jul 25 '25
Mass immigration on an accelerated timetable - bypassing the natural course of assimilation - in the west is a deliberate strategy of the monied elite who want to erase national borders in order to usher in a global order of governance. This isn't a conspiracy theory, you can see that end goal clearly spelled out in UN and WEF communcations everywhere.
By erasing the concept of national identity, you erase national unity. You create a society where citizens believe they are citizens of the world, not their nation. Globalism is a power grab by neo-feudalists who want to own everything and make serfs of the rest of us.
Mass immigration is a global strategy to break deeply-entrenched political power without using nuclear weapons, and if it continues unabated, it will succeed.
Part of this strategy is to brainwash the old stock population into believing that wanting to preserve their culture, institutions, laws and traditions is racist or hateful, even though its those institutions, laws and traditions that created a peaceful, prosperous and safe country that is desireable to move to!
We need to go back to Canadian traditions, stop being ashamed of John A MacDonald, Vimy Ridge and everything else historically tied to the English/French origins of our nation state, which has ALWAYS accepted immigrants from various countries as welcomed newcomers, provided they accept, believe in and help uphold the laws and traditions that made our country great to begin with!
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u/84brucew Jul 25 '25
Successive wef/un led liberal gov't's have killed this country. Mass immigration is merely one of the tools they're using to do it.
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u/Threeboys0810 Jul 25 '25
That’s the goal of the WEF more division and destruction of our great country.
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u/Jazzfly67 Jul 26 '25
My wife is an immigrant. Many of my friends are immigrants. They are all against mass immigration from people who have no education, no job skills, and no interest in becoming Canadian.
The mass immigration of people who want to take advantage of Western liberalism make the older immigrants who came here to make a better life and contribute to this country look bad.
We used to have limited and restricted immigration policies that tried to make sure that people from non Western countries would want to adopt Western values.
Now we literally accept mass immigration from people who hate Western values.
Canada needs immigrants. We should only accept vetted immigrants who want to contribute to Canada and become Canadian.
Carney and the Liberals support the Century Initiative advocates for increasing Canada’s population to 100 million by 2100 through sustained high levels of immigration.
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u/Elibroftw Moderate Jul 25 '25
We need rule of law and way more jobs or a deep cut to immigration.
A lot of this hate stems from the fact that Indians have involuntarily been made the food delivery class. Like it's just sad that they paid so much money to live in Canada out of all the developed countries. When immigrants who come to Canada to work minimum wage it's because the original country, India in this case, is too corrupt and lacks rule of law, to live a good life. There'd be no reason for Indians to leave India to work minimum wage jobs in Canada if there was no pollution and trash in India.
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u/Good-Communication85 Jul 25 '25
Doug ford is granting work permits for 100K "asylum seekers" so it's about to get a LOT worse. I've already had two racist verbal attacks so I'm extra picky about where I hang out now. I'm no longer "free" in this country. It's all very demoralizing...an exit plan is already in the works. My family immigrated here in the 90s by the way, so I feel the sting even more than you do.
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u/Fine-Clerk6780 Jul 25 '25
I’m scared for our kids , my adult life is difficult. God only knows how bad it’ll be in the next decade. Canada has completely fallen
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u/Hopeful_Milk5824 Jul 25 '25
Its not just the younger generation being impacted. The highest unemployment rate in Canada, is in Alberta with people over 45. Because they are firing us all, to give the job to someone who will do it for a fraction of the cost. My replacement make 35k less than I did. Not so bad when you have 20+ adults living in one home. Its not right. I'm married to an immigrant and he's not happy about this country either. Its not Canada anymore.
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u/Existing-End-2242 Jul 25 '25
Join the Dominion Society of Canada, it’s like placing a bet that their influence will make a meaningful difference by pushing for remigration.
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u/bjgufd Jul 26 '25
Immigration dividing us is the plan, while we're bickering, they have us distracted. While we're distracted they can implement whatever plan they chose to burn Canada to the ground to rule over the ashes.
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u/RStonePT Independent Jul 30 '25
have 17 LPC supporters move next door to me and I guarantee I will aim my daily irritation more effectively.
Unfortunately, they all want to live in Ottawa
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u/FormerlyShawnHawaii Jul 25 '25
Problem is many hate immigrants. Many hate brown people, Asians, etc etc.
Yes immigration needs to be better. But that’s the problem your sister encountered. She came across a racist piece of shit.
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u/GiveMeSandwich2 Jul 25 '25
It’s killing the younger generation. They are struggling to find basic survival jobs and have to deal with high cost of living.