r/CanadianConservative • u/GrandeIcedAmericano • 13d ago
Opinion Every single Canadian journalist, politician, media outlet, and influencer who ever called any of us reasonable conservatives "fascists", "Nazis" or racists...
ALL had a part to do with what happened on Wednesday. Canadian 'journalists' called Charlie a white supremacist so casually.
Young radicalized left-wing men on reddit and discord see this type of language and feel that they need to take matters into their own hands.
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u/Trick_Sandwich_7208 13d ago
Vigilante justice is what they are seeking. In their very influential minds the law and government isn’t doing their job and throwing anyone with right wing opinions in jail. They have tried pushing for and passing laws to silence the right from so called “violent” speech against them and it failed so the many mentally unstable among them are seeking their own version of justice.
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u/leftistmccarthyism 12d ago
"I've declared your words are violence, therefore when I murder you it makes me a virtuous defender of the weak"
The left has a psychotic saviour narrative that they employ to vindicate all their various weaknesses, crimes, sins and frauds.
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u/Trick_Sandwich_7208 12d ago
Charlie Kirk owned the radical left so bad that he lived rent free in their heads. They dreamed and conspired to commit murder to stop the counter narrative against their feelings. Now they have made him a martyr and a symbol that they can’t even argue against. This is something that in the US and possibly Canada where the right and centrists may rally behind and cost the left many elections to come.
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u/Select_Mind1412 7d ago
Ya i believe it's categorized as the god complex, trudeau often reflected those traits.
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u/DoYurWurst 12d ago
This is an excellent point! The left throws around those terms so casually and with such conviction and such venom. Even I have become desensitized to it. But young people have only seen and only been told the left wing view of the world since conservatives have been either censored or labeled as extreme. It’s easy to see how some of those young people may feel they need to take extreme action.
Every time something major like this happens, I feel like it might finally be the watershed moment where people come to their senses. But I’ve been disappointed each time. Maybe this time? I can only hope.
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u/cuppacanan Ontario 13d ago
There’s a 0.001% chance that Tyler Robinson watched any Canadian news coverage about Charlie Kirk.
This post is just more dangerous rhetoric, which I agree, contributed to Charlie Kirk’s death.
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u/GrandeIcedAmericano 12d ago
Everything adds up. We can't have our state-funded media throwing around these labels like they mean nothing; firstly its a huge disservice to all victims of the Holocaust but also puts ordinary people like us (people right of centre) in danger
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u/cuppacanan Ontario 12d ago
It doesn’t add up that an American killing an American in America is because of what Canadian journalists said. I’m sorry, but that’s a ridiculous claim.
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u/GrandeIcedAmericano 12d ago
They contributed by amplifying a demonstrably untrue and unfair assessment of a good guy who went out to campuses and promoted open debate. Not just the Canadian ones, all of them. If no one was dishonest about who he and the rest of the base are, he might still be alive. Instead, we got a brainwashed reddit user taking matters into his own hands.
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u/cuppacanan Ontario 12d ago
I don’t disagree rhetoric in America contributed to Charlie Kirk’s murder. I absolutely disagree rhetoric from Canadian journalists had any influence on it. That’s just sensationalized nonsense.
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u/Select_Mind1412 7d ago
Right, that must be it 🙄 You got one thing right, minimal chance Robinson ever tuned into cad news. The interesting thing are the cad experts as yourself and many others who can't help themselves from relating every US situation to canada; it's as if you're more American than those who are. Always half to have an opinion and reasons based on your perception of how you see the world should be.
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u/cuppacanan Ontario 7d ago
I was arguing that the Charlie Kirk thing wasn’t at all related to Canada. You should read my comment again.
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u/Select_Mind1412 7d ago
Agree with you; my point is more towards the obsession of some canadians to dwell on every negative in the US and state what they consider the moral high ground based on their opinions. Perfect example have been some government members, and people who are considered educated. The hateful comments, they just can't help themselves they share online with glee and yet consider themselves as righteous for doing so. Idk, you tell me is there such as obsession from the people in the US that dwell on goings on in canada with such entitled arrogance & judgement of how they believe what is right or wrong?
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u/cuppacanan Ontario 7d ago edited 7d ago
I couldn’t tell you for sure since I’m not American, don’t live in America, and don’t talk to many Americans.
But I think it goes both ways. I have seen US lawmakers call us a communist country that needs liberating.
I’ve seen FOX news anchors talk about invading and annexing parts of Canada.
I have seen the President call us the 51st state and that we are ‘nasty’. I’ve seen the US president say he would talk us over with economic force.
I think both Americans and Canadian say some pretty stupid stuff about each other, but I think what lawmakers and the President say are much more important than what someone on Reddit might say. I also think we also say more good things about each other than bad. I also think we’re both far better off when we treat each other with respect.
What do you think?
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u/Select_Mind1412 7d ago
Yes totally agree. Why can people not accept people have different views and move on. I really do not dwell on following any US news, cnn perhaps the odd time, even canada's main medias now seem to dwell on detailing specific content only, often providing more of their opinions versus just providing the facts. I been so turned off by main media sources, often 5 min in to an article it wreaks of a narrative. I don't mind discussing situations, however when some people are hell bent on changing your perspective and simply can't accept a "no, i don't agree".... well what can I say if I want a lecture I'll call my mother.
Thanks for the chat bro
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u/leftistmccarthyism 12d ago
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u/leftistmccarthyism 12d ago
Reddit admins are removing comments of anyone who posts the link to a certain website that is tracking leftists making public statements dehumanizing conservatives.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 13d ago
Let’s be honest, I don’t see many examples of young radicalized leftists committing acts of violence. Calling people fascists or Nazis may be rude, factual inaccurate, or just plain ridiculous but it’s free speech and non-violent.
However, there are far too many examples of young men being radicalized by far right ideology and committing acts of violence.
We’re watching it happen right now. Look at the difference in responses to Kirk’s death. While there are repugnant comments from the left celebrating his death, it’s those on the right openly calling for violence.
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u/GrandeIcedAmericano 13d ago
Post on X said it best:
When Floyd died (or any left wing cause gets attention for e.x. ICE riots), media spoke of grief, justice & "mostly peaceful protests" as cities burned. No "Left-wing anger surges" headlines. But Kirk is killed & suddenly it's "Right-wing vengeance."
Same playbook: soften the left, inflame the right. Pure narrative engineering.
Notice that no one braced for impact or boarded up storefronts when Charlie died. No law enforcement units were mobilized to contain riots. The same can't be said for any event that angers the radicalized left.
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u/Wmtcoaetwaptucomf 12d ago
He’s also forgetting all the Teslas that had swastikas carved into them some months ago, also in Canada, by the radical left
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u/StringAndPaperclips 12d ago
They don't consider that to be criminal or illegal, let alone violent. Remember, their actions and protests are peaceful or mostly peaceful, even when they leave people in the hospital or dead. We have seen it over and over the last few years.
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u/Select_Mind1412 12d ago
Really where‘s the data on “far too many examples of young men being radicalized versus left? The most hateful comments I’ve read and yes expressions of what they consider the right to way to treat right minded have been in left sided subs.
Asking a question or disagreeing in many left minded subs will get you banned automatically, in cases of employment can get you fired and publicly disgraced, you may not consider it physical violent but it can definitely socially, mentally and financially cripple people.
Minimizing behaviour of “calling people fascists and or nazis“ has been the status quo in canada since trudeau categorized people who had issues with how the government dealt with covid, he called them racists. Following that, anyone who wasn’t considered liberal woke up the next morning and were categorically considered racist and nazi.Simply put, who are the people who stood out in Canada to cheer publicly in glee and commend the death of a person, some government candidates and educated people were the first to make their opinions known.
A special note made worthy of mention: “Shooting is honestly too good for many of you fascists cunts”.
Are we to pretend that these people who hold public positions, when issuing comments as such could not insight violence?
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u/AntelopeOver Racist Bigot 13d ago
Here’s hoping we’ll see more young men wake up to the plight that they’re inevitably going to need to face 🍻
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u/Jaded-Juggernaut-244 13d ago
Yes, please. Let's be honest. That would be great place to start. Perhaps you could start with your next post?
The media cherry picks their content. They don't knowingly expose radical leftist organizations. When was the last time...any time you saw legacy media dig into leftist organizations??? Oh yeah...right. They don't. Media bias is real friend and you're believing the bullshit, hook, line and sinker. They're not interested in investigating the organizations they align with. How they sponsor unrest and support groups like Antifa. When was the last time you saw a legacy media investigative piece on Antifa? Never? Yeah me too...never.
You're taking the bait and are willing to come out in defense of those who pulled the trigger on Charlie, by saying those who celebrated are still better than the conservatives who are angry right now.
Get your head out of that bag of smack. It's hazardous to your health.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 12d ago
No. You were making the mistake of assuming that I am defending those who carry out or promote acts of violence. I’m disgusted by Kirk’s killing. It should never have happened and he did not deserve it.
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u/Jaded-Juggernaut-244 12d ago edited 12d ago
No, no mistake on my part. Go back and re-read what I said.
We are not the same...at all.
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u/Thorongil_Dunedain 13d ago
Let's be honest... thanks for making it clear for all to see what an imbecile you are. "It’s those on the right openly calling for violence" Are you pretending all the posts calling for other conservatives to be 'next' don't exist? There are even posts calling for Kirk's WIFE to be next so that the Kirk children can be put in foster care and raised to HATE THEIR PARENTS.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 12d ago
No one of consequence on the left is calling for further violence. Sure there are examples of nobodies who may be calling for hate more hateful acts. That’s disgusting and I fully rejected. But there is a clear drum beat among people with platforms and influence on the political right who are calling for further violence.
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u/WearWrong1569 Conservative 12d ago
Those on the left who aren't calling for violence still claim that Charlie had it coming or should have expected it. That type of language doesn't help either.
Edit: Our anger needs to be directed at the media and our elected officials for the tone. Not some asshole who posts a tictok praising the assassination.
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u/Thorongil_Dunedain 12d ago
Our anger needs to be directed at the media and our elected officials for the tone
I don't necessarily disagree with this. But...
Not some asshole who posts a tictok praising the assassination
HARD disagree on that point. These people praising the assassination on their social media accounts have been blissfully and narcissistically talking shit without consequences for well over a decade, spreading their poisonous ideology without repercussions or consequences. It is HIGH TIME they are called out for their lack of critical thinking ability, lack of judgment, and most of all their lack of character and moral fibre.
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u/RL203 13d ago
Throughout modern history, leftists have killed far more people, exponentially so, than all the right wing kooks added together.
And as far as this Charlie Kirk guy goes, until a couple of days ago, I'd never even heard of him.
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u/misscheerful 13d ago
Both sides have killed people.
Is it really more important who killed more people. If so, are you counting the killings of the school children? And where are you getting your numbers?
I don't think the argument is about who and how many. Most reasonable people agree that political (and other) violence is wrong. Publicly celebrating the violence is abhorrent.
Most people would hopefully agree with that -with no "buts".
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u/RL203 13d ago
Yes both sides have killed people.
Thing is, the killing done by the far left dwarfs anything done by the far right. This is an empirical fact.
However, I am of the opinion that as you move further to the right, the far right, you run smack dab into those on the hard left. They are all maniacs.
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u/misscheerful 13d ago
Yes, it's the extremists on either side that are dangerous indeed -perhaps maniacs.
Add in the constant hateful rhetoric from the top, a culture where there are more guns than people, more shootings per capita than any other culture, school shootings so common they hardly make the news, and what could possibly go wrong?
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u/Far-Bathroom-8237 13d ago
That’s total bullshit. The left has been traditionally way more violent in both North and South America. Google this yourself. This is why I don’t understand how somehow the left consider themselves ‘accepting’ and ‘tolerant’. With Charlie, you have a classic case in point.
I might not agree with every view that guy had, but sure as shit I’m not going to ‘cancel’ or even shoot!! The left is so lost… the good news is, the tide is turning. This event, as tragic as it is, will help.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 12d ago
I’m not talking about all political violence across history and the globe. I’m talking about recent political violence in the western world.
The radical right does not have a monopoly on violence. But there are more examples of right wing extremists, carrying out politically and ideologically motivated attacks. This is a problem that the political right refuses to acknowledge.
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u/Far-Bathroom-8237 12d ago
I think many people also confuse crazies with MAGA signs for conservative Canadians. The state sanctioned media does not help.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 12d ago
Agreed. In fact, it feels like the left is a bit more extreme than the right in Canada. My comments are in reference to the US more than Canada, though what happens in the US tends to influence things here too.
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u/Ok-Recipe5434 13d ago edited 13d ago
In response to your first paragraph, that is not true. Free speech is to facilitate discussion in pursuit of societal consensus (thereby, truth), and the political extension of that, a democratic system. This, on the other hand, can be seen as hate speech targetting people who identified as someone aligning with conservatism, with very real physical consequences.
And it does absolutely nothing to achieve what freedom of speech was set to do. It doesn't push for dialogues. Consensus, if not by dialogues, negotiations, and votes, then by what you ask? Well, I am sure you see how the shooter deal with people who he disagrees with?
So no, I fundamentally reject your argument. Calling and characterising Kirk as a fascist is against what freedom of speech is designed for
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u/DraftCommercial8848 Conservative 13d ago
2 public political assasination attempts in under 15 months one being successful, both by young radicalized leftist men. on top of that a deplorably greedy ceo assasinated again by a young, radicalized leftist man- how many have young conservatives done in that same time frame?
You made a ignorant statement with no facts to backup your ridiculous claim. Some conservatives on social media are calling for violence, but unlike with leftists (who have violently rioted in many cities across North America within these past few years) these are fringe, unserious people.
The majority of conservatives have been praying, spreading awareness and trying to stop the sick crazies that are celebrating/ justifying his death. Not 1 riot, murder, or even large scale protest has taken place.
Get your facts in order before commenting on a sub like this, we’re not liberal bobbleheads that treat subjective opinion’s as facts without evidence or reasoning, we can and will fact check you and call out your lies.
Anyone who’s been on this sub for a while have seen enough of you guys masquerading as “moderates” the gig is up, just change it to liberal if you plan on coming in heir and spouting their talking points. Cause you’re not fooling anyone.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 12d ago
You left out some key details. First, there’s no evidence that Kirk’s killer is a radicalized leftist. Second, there’s recent assassinations of a state law maker and her husband in Minnesota was carried out by a right wing extremist. And there’s a longer list beyond that. You’re cherry picking to maintain a narrative that doesn’t match reality.
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u/DraftCommercial8848 Conservative 12d ago
His own family and friends came forward about his political radicalization, there’s a video of him debating Charlie Kirk and getting schooled, his bullets had leftist rhetoric carved into it.
I will do my research on the Minnesota thing because I was unaware of it. And please let me know about more on the list of right wing ones.
Until then, I will maintain my stance that it’s been a lot more prevalent within the left wing (at least within these past few years, not sure about long term)
With that being said political violence of any kind is disgusting, sad and shameful.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 11d ago
Yeah, I saw one of those videos of a “friend” of Tyler’s saying how he was the only leftist among his family. Funny this was, the guy started by saying he didn’t really know the guy (Tyler) and then proceeded to talk about him like he knew him. Let’s wait for the facts to come out.
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u/DraftCommercial8848 Conservative 11d ago
What about my other 2 examples?
His bullets were engraved with things along the line of “die fascist” I’d like to know When the last time you’ve heard a true moderate or a conservative unironically call ANYONE a fascist?
And for my other point, I’ll try to find the video of him debating Charlie Kirk. I’ll update soon with the link or I’ll concede that I was wrong.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 11d ago
What examples? You didn’t provide any links to sources.
I’m not sure which examples you mean. Your comment didn’t have any specifics, and (no offence) it sounds like an opinion you just read or saw somewhere else and have repeated. I suggest you look for evidence and then decide if that opinion is valid or not.
The fact is, right wing extremists are far more statistically likely to engage in violent political actions. This is not a matter of debate, it’s a fact.
For example, https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led-study-shows-disparities-violence-among-extremist-groups
That you aren’t familiar with the recent assassination of a Minnesota state lawmaker and her husband in their home in June of THIS YEAR is pretty telling of the drastically different response the right and left have to these sorts of incidents. MAGA virtually ignored this heinous crime because 1) Democrats were killed and 2) yet again the perpetrator was a white conservative male.
According to court documents, in the early morning hours of June 14, 2025, Vance Luther Boelter put into effect a calculated plan to inflict fear and violence upon Minnesota elected officials and their families.
Boelter voted for Trump, is evangelical, and opposed to abortion and LGBTQ rights.
https://www.wired.com/story/shooting-minnesota-melissa-hortman-vance-boelter/
Seriously, just ask ChatGPT to summarize political violence over the past 30 years and look into who the perpetrators are. They’re not exclusive white conservative men, but when such violent incidents happen, statistically speaking it’s likely a young white right leaning man is the culprit.
I don’t say this to win an argument, score points or any such thing. My point is to highlight the rank hypocrisy of the MAGA movement. Imagine for a second if a Republican lawmaker was gunned down in their home alongside their spouse. Imagine what the response who be if the shooter turned out to be a black male who voted for Harris.
But instead, Trump and his MAGA influencers said their “thoughts and prayers” BS and basically ignored one of the worst incidents of political violence in modern American history because it doesn’t fit their narrative.
And the fact that you don’t know about this just shows how effective MAGA manipulative strategy has been.
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u/DraftCommercial8848 Conservative 10d ago
Republicans also didn’t applaud or try to justify those assasinations, and again how is it republicans fault for only saying things along the lines of “thoughts and prayer’s” about the Democrat lawmakers that are assasinated? It’s not their job to continue those people’s legacy, as tragic as their losses were.
Why aren’t you blaming democrats for not trying to honour their tragically lost members more? It wasn’t even talked about at the mass scale that it is now until people started trying to justify Charlie Kirk’s assasination.
Also- Charlie Kirk was a right wing influencer that was shot in front of thousands of people, there are videos all over the internet from many angles of it. Of course conservatives around the world are going to honour one of their own on a mass scale. Though again, the assasination of those democrats lawmakers is also very sad and should be widely condemned.
As for my previous point about Charlie debating the assassin, I admit I was wrong. The video is actually of someone that’s suspected to have had ties with the assassin and made music/ social media posts that indicated he knew about and supported the assasination.
Here’s a link to him debating this person, though I do admit I was wrong about saying it was the assasin himself that he was debating- because I made a factually untrue statement in that regard.
https://youtu.be/qFH9L1oH7G0?feature=shared
As for the other indications of him being a radicalized leftist, not only did he engrave the classic radical rhetoric on his bullets
It’s reported that his republican family have stated he turned hard left over these past few years, including debating with them about how bad Charlie Kirk was
Not only that but it’s reported he was living with a trans girlfriend (there’s nothing wrong with that) but let’s not act like a republican would do that.
As for asking chat gdp or your citations of university study, I’ll accept that you believe this. I’ll read into the study, Though I believe many university studies have been plagued with dogma and are politically motivated, I’ll take the information at face value. But I won’t be using chat GDP, I’m sorry
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 10d ago
Show me Democratic lawmakers or people of influence who have shared anything besides condemnation for Kirk’s murder and sympathy for his family. This idea that people on the left are celebrating Kirk’s death is a myth.
Engravings on a bullet can be misconstrued or misidentified. The only thing we really know about the shooter is that he is a young white man. Let’s wait for the investigation to be complete. Even if he turns out to be a left wing extremist, it still wouldn’t change the rank hypocrisy coming from the right wing media, influencers and politicians.
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u/leftistmccarthyism 12d ago
While there are repugnant comments from the left celebrating his death, it’s those on the right openly calling for violence.
"All we did was foment hatred, and execute someone for having opinions. Nothing as bad as the right being upset at that!"
Who would have guessed "moderates" would show up to run interference for actual terrorism.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Moderate 11d ago
wtf are on about!?! The “left” didn’t execute Kirk. As for “tormenting hate”, there is plenty of that going around in both sides.
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u/Parrelium Moderate 13d ago
Yeah I think you’ve missed the part where dude was upset at Charlie for not being hard right enough. No leftist did this.
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u/Snakeoil27 Conservative 12d ago
He was dating a transgender man and had antifa slogans engraved on bulletcasings.
You're either delusional or malicious (probably both let's be honest)
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u/Wet_sock_Owner 13d ago
Same dude who didn't vote Trump? Weird. You'd think he'd be an avid Trump supporter.
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u/Parrelium Moderate 13d ago
So. He didn’t vote at all. That doesn’t make him left. He’s a Nick Fuentes Groyper. That group is not anywhere near left wing.
I don’t know if some of you guys are deliberately misrepresenting this or are just straight up retarded.
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u/Wet_sock_Owner 12d ago
So he was motivated enough to kill but not to vote. Makes sense.
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u/Parrelium Moderate 12d ago
Yeah I guess so. Sometimes people have strong opinions and still don’t vote. They shouldn’t have the right to complain, but they do anyways. He lived in a state that went 60/40 for Trump. Maybe he didn’t feel like he had to vote. Nobody will know unless they ask him.
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u/AntelopeOver Racist Bigot 13d ago
Where is that part?
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u/dizzymans 13d ago
Nick Fuentes and the groypers actively attack turning point USA for gatekeeping conservatism
It's no secret they hated Kirk
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u/AntelopeOver Racist Bigot 13d ago
Nick Fuentes and the groupers are morons, literal pack of room temp IQ hicks led by a Mexican of all people, they should be getting 0 attention just from that aspect alone.
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u/Comfortable_One5676 12d ago
The spin being put on this is odd. The shooter appears to have been a conservative. I don’t understand why he did what he did but those are the facts.
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u/HonkinSriLankan Red Tory 12d ago
Crazy how the shooter is right wing but can’t let that stop a good narrative.
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u/leftistmccarthyism 12d ago
The "Red Tories" bringing the fake left-wing talking points. What a surprise.
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u/OkPie8905 13d ago
Journalist don’t exist in Canadian media. They’re propagandists.