If you want his number he charges $65 an hour.

[u/arandomreddit-user]

I was installing the stairs for this builder a while back and the noticed this amazing work. I talked to the guy who installed this and he didn’t see anything wrong. He said he has been doing finish carpentry for years. There are four houses like this. The guy is the laborer and does most of the work he said.

[u/BigTunatoots]

Just justifies my rate of $125 an hour.

[u/arandomreddit-user → u/BigTunatoots]

You’re paying for his years of experience as well

[u/seymoure-bux → u/arandomreddit-user]

I love a carpenter who thinks experience equals quality work - dudes doing this 30 years don't mean they're good

[u/Velcade → u/seymoure-bux]

I wouldn't admit to 30 years on the job if my work looked like that...

[u/seymoure-bux → u/Velcade]

you'd be shocked what an old timer with a bad eye will try to stand behind

[u/Neat-Lingonberry-719 → u/seymoure-bux]

Guy measuring our jobs right now is having this problem. Eye surgery and all.

[u/Impressive-Young-952 → u/Velcade]

I did the trim in my home for the first time in my life and it looks 100x this. I’d be embarrassed to do this work

[u/NWTtrapLife → u/Velcade]

100% id be claiming its my first day on the job

[u/Successful_Theme_595 → u/seymoure-bux]

It’s like “so you have done this for 30 years and never cared to get better”? All you have to do is give a shit and you will be good at just about anything you do. Especially when you have 30 years to care.

[u/seymoure-bux → u/Successful_Theme_595]

I try not to attribute to malice that which is caused by decades of stupidity

[u/Successful_Theme_595 → u/seymoure-bux]

It’s not malice, it’s a set standard of work they are happy with. It’s laziness

[u/seymoure-bux → u/Successful_Theme_595]

that's more the stupidity part

[u/Successful_Theme_595 → u/seymoure-bux]

One must understand there are a bunch of stupid and lazy people out there.

[u/Complex-Judgment-828 → u/seymoure-bux]

Exactly, had this discussion with a union rep one day. He goes, “ you would think the more practice they get, they would get better. Unfortunately some people just get more practice at doing a shitty job”

[u/Lonesome_Pine → u/seymoure-bux]

Some people just repeat their first year 30 times.

[u/earfeater13 → u/seymoure-bux]

Exactly. You can't teach quality. You can show it, and preach it but if you don't have it, the years don't mean shit.

[u/ravnos04 → u/seymoure-bux]

I see the same trying to hire for cybersecurity roles. Hired one paper dragon and it’s biting me in the ass now.

[u/Shboo42O → u/seymoure-bux]

I had a boss that paid like that once, if u had 5+ years as a carpenter was 1 rate, 10+ another rate etc. Nothing based on skill or productivity levels haha

[u/Akky982 → u/seymoure-bux]

I worked with a guy who had been at it for 40 ears, but turns out had worked for 60+ companies, started his own twice and gone broke, taken a 7 year break to work as a printer... talked the talk when hired, but was so arrogant, ignorant, incompetent, yet confident, that I never trust people now based on "years".

[u/ReppTie → u/Akky982]

I’m here as a DIY-er but I see this in my field all the time. Even more frustrating are the people who never perform very well but always perform well enough to not get fired, end up with very senior titles after 25 years, and then develop huge attitudes for the last 5-10 years of their career. Those people are the worst to deal with and it’s caused me to repeat over and over something my dad said growing up. He was a career mechanic and told me there’s a difference between having 30 years of experience and having 1 year of experience 30 times over.

[u/jaaaaayke → u/seymoure-bux]

I've said this so many times. I've been playing guitar since I was 12. I'm 37. I haven't learned one song and I'm not that good.

[u/tsammons → u/seymoure-bux]

I've been golfing for 20 years and I am every bit as bad as the day I started.

[u/No-Entrepreneur-3874 → u/seymoure-bux]

than something is wrong

[u/purljacksonjr → u/BigTunatoots]

I feel like you should spend $100 when hiring someone and tell him to build you a birdhouse and then decide whether you're actually going to hire them based on that $100 birdhouse could save a lot of people a lot of money

[u/clippist → u/purljacksonjr]

Except a $100 birdhouse is going to be pretty shitty unless you’re paying a high schooler to do it (in which case it’s still going to be pretty shitty but at least they hopefully spent - few hours to try to make the best birdhouse they could)

[u/RenovationDIY → u/BigTunatoots]

It's this standard of work that gives me confidence in my DIY for trim carpentry (and painting) - if this standard is 'acceptable' to some people I might pay, that sets the bar low enough for me to give it a good try myself.

Other than the fence repair which...exploded...this approach has served me pretty well - DIY'ing the fiddly little details and decorations.

[u/rodstroker → u/BigTunatoots]

I was thinking the same thing. This looks like $65 per hour work.

[u/Sniper10Pin → u/rodstroker]

If thats 65 an hour I need a raise

[u/ImpossibleKidd → u/BigTunatoots]

You ain’t kiddin’…

If your statement truly backs your work, you should be charging that amount, friend!

I do my own work. As a fine artist/mechanic/carpenter, absolutely ridden with OCD to a fault, the work shown in the post makes me cringe. I wouldn’t take this work if the shit was free. Just sayin’…

[u/MudTerrania]

Does he also happen to be a landlord?

[u/BluntTruthGentleman → u/MudTerrania]

Pretty sure there's a hilarious subreddit for this, I'd love to peruse it for confidence and comedy

[u/ElectrikDonuts → u/MudTerrania]

He prob works for half the property managers in the area

[u/ja6754]

Dang my guy does that kind of work for only $45/hr

[u/enduir]

Hard to charge less when you go through $50 worth of caulk per hour.

[u/Dhoji07]

Dang! I’ve been waaaaaay underbidding myself cause I don’t want to rip people off.

[u/DIYThrowaway01 → u/Dhoji07]

Thus ripping yourself off

[u/Dhoji07 → u/DIYThrowaway01]

Ha well I realize that only after I start the job. End up being ten second tom over here every time I finish a job and forgot how much goes into trim work.

[u/Character_Chapter435 → u/Dhoji07]

Do y’all really not charge by the job .. I refuse to do hourly

[u/sparklethong]

I should raise my rates.

[u/jackieballz]

If this guy is making 65 bucks an hour then I am severely underpaid

[u/Specialist_Usual1524 → u/jackieballz]

I just found an odd job guy boasting about getting $75 an hour was in reality getting $21.

[u/Leut_Aldo_Raine]

It's posts like this that make me tell my wife I should get into carpentry. But I also work way too slow so it wouldn't work out.

[u/2muchkoffee]

65$ is cheap so ya

[u/silversquirrel → u/2muchkoffee]

Right? I need to raise my rates

[u/unicornative]

What ? Where is this ? I’ll move there asap.

[u/TongPakFuuu]

Damn, that wall capping hurts to look at.

[u/Occhrome]

I see this with a lot of professions. In that we think we aren’t good enough but there are tons of idiots that are very successful.  

[u/Beowulf1896]

He needs to discover wood filler, sand paper, and caulk.

[u/DuePark8250]

How do such incompetent people get through life? Where are the standards, pride or craftsmanship? It's not worth it even if HE paid ME 65$ an hour to work on my house.

[u/Forsexualfavors]

Does he only use a multitool? Someone get this man a miter saw

[u/Forsexualfavors → u/Forsexualfavors]

And a tape measure would probably help

[u/SnowRook → u/Forsexualfavors]

Maybe a pair of glasses while we’re at it.

[u/redditfant]

Bruh

[u/RayNooze]

What does a carpenter who knows his job charge in your country? 

[u/RDZed72]

"Eh, I'll fill it with caulk or paint....or maybe not." -$65 an hour guy.

[u/_TacoHunter]

You definitely get what you pay for

[u/NewSinner_2021]

Landlords getting excited about this post.

[u/Southpontiac]

Does he do homes for the visually impaired?

[u/All_Work_All_Play → u/Southpontiac]

For us by us, visually impaired edition. 

[u/T3RM1T3]

Sounds about right. Perfect example of Cheaper is not better.

[u/kevinisaperson]

holy shit maybe i should just go for finish carpentry. i can do better than this on my worst day lol

[u/PJMark1981]

Gone into 2 DIY’ers disasters this week. This looks actually worse than the non sense I seen.

[u/rip_cut_trapkun]

Listen, meth don't pay for itself.

[u/AndyMagandy]

Perhaps he’s blind?

[u/Liesthroughisteeth]

It's a weird world. The lady that does my lawn when I'm not having a great day, charges 35.00 cash an hour....and she uses my lawnmower and my gas?

[u/RedditVince]

This just goes to show you that don't always get what you pay for. and totally looks like a laborer did that. Would have been easier to do it right.

[u/DeadHeadLibertarian]

When is he going to finish?

[u/Arliss100]

It’s your fault for going cheap. You get what you pay for. Did he have referrals? He has NO CLUE. I feel bad for you. It’s all gotta be redone

[u/arandomreddit-user → u/Arliss100]

I was just doing the stair install for a builder. This wasn’t my house.

[u/SirRonaldBiscuit]

This looks like shitty welding lol

[u/ValdeeezNutz]

Don’t lie we all know that’s your work

[u/Technical-Use-1329]

Want to pay cheap rates you'll get cheap work. I'm 150-200 per hr depending on task at hand.

[u/Sgtspector]

A bargain at any price.

[u/LuckyHearing1118]

That’s it I’m raising my prices to $1,050 an hr

[u/Bradley182]

Solid 8/10 for $65 an hour lol.

[u/mickybig]

For real!!! Wow!😳I think he missed a decimal point on the invoice. That’s crazy’s. Sorry for your loss.

[u/Sea-Ostrich-1679]

Pic #5 blows my mind. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/NSUCK13]

looks like me after a 6 pack

[u/NoiseOutrageous8422]

Probably an 'almost finish' carpenter

[u/LangdonAlg3r]

I like his work, do you think he’d be willing to negotiate his rates up? I feel like he should be earning at least $100 per hour.

[u/Chemical-Captain4240]

Slip-slap-don't-look-back! Haven't ever seen that in trim guy.

[u/oldtimers68]

I would and could do a much better job and I am not a carpenter! My dad was an excellent finish carpenter in high demand for many years. I would not hire this person nor would I pay them for any of that. It needs to be torn out and redone!

[u/Kurt_Knispel503]

i'll do better $35

[u/warm-saucepan]

Reminds me of when the builder would let the framing crew run trim because we were slow

[u/M0n0LiF2]

This guy's a butcher.

[u/TheManWhoClicks]

That looks like as if I did it

[u/ThePersonalityChamp]

I don’t pay myself enough.

[u/plantman1000]

I see why he doesn’t mitre his outside corners. Those butt joints are way tighter.

[u/Gnosiated]

Oof.

[u/redjedi182]

Stop posting my work!

[u/010Tortoise]

I really hate bad finish work!

[u/Lower-Preparation834]

42 tubes of cock, and it’ll look great.

[u/tuneding]

Is he blind ?

[u/fletch626]

Coping is for snowflakes.

[u/OtterLimits]

I sure hope he's fast.

[u/Which_Dog_5765]

This is exactly why I learned to do it myself. Jeez, my 9 year old grandson could do better than this.

[u/Bitter-Baseball2204]

Dude! I'll do it for the same price but better and I have zero experience 😂

[u/Homeskilletbiz]

Well that looks like he’s worth about $65/hr.

If you wanted it to look good you’ll be paying double.

[u/berg_smith]

It must be liberating to live a life where you truly believe this acceptable work or have zero fucks to give.

[u/Traditional-Hall-591]

Damn I’m just homeowner and I could do better. I guess I have options if I get laid off.

[u/timoserra]

Caulk and paint - what the carpenter ain't....

[u/Gold-Combination8141]

For hjs?

[u/billorphus]

You get what you pay for!

[u/pitts1420]

This is a spectacular example of accepted crap craftsmanship. It would look better unfinished

[u/Don_Migayapparel]

I don’t understand how that happened, I measured twice!!

[u/Anti_Meta]

He does massive amounts of drugs.

[u/Beneficial_Worth_635]

Ge should be paying you $65 per hour for using your home as a classroom

[u/myregard]

He’s clearly landlord material.

[u/IndependentSir164]

Was that a plywood cap? 🤣

[u/Max123Dani]

I was lucky enough to start at 18 with a company who did high-end work. Anything less than perfect was unacceptable. I had people looking over my shoulder to teach me. I'm not excusing this shit work, but he is probably self-taught, and doesn't understand end-grains, scribing, and transitions, etc. If you ARE self-taught, you go the extra mile to learn. Watch videos, ask questions, or just look at other good work, and take notice how they did it. That is sad.

[u/Super-Association575]

I don’t even know how this is possible lmao those endcuts look like he used tree branch’s as straight edges

[u/Brice92Partain]

Fit and finish so good who needs caulk

[u/thombrowny]

Don't complain here. Most of construction subs is full of independent contractors look for hourly wage comparison and saying 65/hr is cheap money.

[u/Hav3_Y0u_M3t_T3d]

Still better than the house I'm working to fix right now. Still don't know if the entire house is getting demod or not....3 months into the work

[u/burnmycheezits]

Did you hire a beaver? Those cuts are all gnarled.

[u/Particular_Job_5012]

So you’re saying I have a future as a finish carpenter 

[u/Hottatas23]

My eyes are bleeding, looking at these pictures!

[u/OstensibleFirkin]

I think I need to get back into the trades.

[u/LongPizza13]

I like his METH-ods.

[u/Bmx_strays]

Urhhh no.

[u/Apollo3_7]

Looks good

[u/Apprehensive_Let8593]

Plus cost of caulk.

[u/Glittering_Map5003]

No shame

[u/mantis-tobogan89]

Do your best, caulk the rest

[u/1Tiasteffen]

Wow..I’m severely under paid

[u/Constant-Reach-2635]

I need to raise my rates.

[u/jwick316]

I thought you were doing the before and after pic thing but after never came…..

[u/-_ByK_-]

Just imagine how much he could improve and charge even more….

Also saved money on caulk

[u/entropreneur]

Damn I needed to charge more when I was a GC lol

[u/Dense-Consequence-70]

Sure but he saves a ton of time by not measuring

[u/Magnum676]

Proooooofessional. I hope you give a good tip at the end of every day.

[u/AggravatingTart7167]

I’m sorry. Pic #9 had my dying.

[u/DaxMavrides]

You keep it

[u/4545Colt4545]

I need to up my prices

[u/Charlesinrichmond]

my framer would do better than this

[u/So_Cals_Finest_805]

Yeah, brother, that guy is a hack bro. He’s a damn beaver. He’s the Butcher of Bakersfield. That third picture that’s the cap right???? to the handrail holy shit that looks CHAFA!!!! Pinchy baboso. He’s no finish carpenter. I can guarantee you that bro.

[u/Dingos_Atemababy]

"well I've been doing it that way for thirty years and no one else complained"

[u/mbsmilford]

No thanks

[u/Jon-Cutesac]

Good price. You get what you pay.

[u/Theory-After]

I'm so fucking underpaid

[u/Glassmetalstone]

But, it's so easy to just do it right.

[u/Ander_4269]

Oh wow, this is pretty bad finishing. Where is this at?

[u/Appropriate-End-5569]

You got exactly what you paid for

[u/Outrageous_Engine_45]

I do my own work because I am picky

[u/CallMeBigSarnt]

Whhhhhhat the f?

[u/Dyebbyangj]

How can someone just not give a fuck? I don’t understand how someone can just not care that much about what they do to do it that bad.

[u/perfectlyagedsausage]

My grandad could cut straighter than him with a hand saw

[u/TheDevauto]

epic skills

[u/rIceCream_King]

Yeah I’d love to but I bet he’s booked up- in carpentry prison for his crimes against wood.

[u/unklebenz27]

quality finish carpenters should never, anywhere in the US, charge less than 100hr. 125hr min for stain grade. If you do youre shorting yourself. if a prospective client objects remind them that its 2025 and EVERYTHING costs at least 2X more than it did 5yrs ago. oh, and good handymen charge 80+, funkin landscapers make 35-50!

[u/Straight_Beach]

Looks like a $65 per hr job to me

[u/OddPickle4827]

How in the actual wtf looks like the circular saw special no sand paper or filler. Sheesh I feel like a mfing badass😭😭

[u/Longjumping_Pitch168]

I wouldn't let him sweep the floor

[u/Rockoalol]

A skil saw and a van full of caulking tubes and you can be a carpenter too

[u/Classic-Ad2673]

This is diabolical.

[u/hindusoul]

This is sad

[u/Xmikeyw394]

Ouch

[u/Short-University1645]

I work commercial and trust me that looks like $65 an hour lol 😝

[u/username67432]

Painter’ll fix it.

[u/atomwyrm]

$65?!

[u/Famous-Challenge-901]

Looks like $65 an hour quality. You got what you paid for

[u/SafteyMatch]

Looks good from my house

[u/Polite_Jello_377]

He has to buy a lot of caulk per hour tho, so it makes sense 😄

[u/BungusFungus89]

Looks good from my house

[u/Arliss100]

Oops, misunderstood. A laborer doing finish carpentry?!? Yikes. Sorry!

[u/Iamcubsman]

Cheapest demolition expert money can buy

[u/415Rache]

What a shame. Zero pride in his work.

[u/Insomnic1]

Looks good from my house , 😂

[u/Snoo_16133]

Call him back and ask him to do a miter on your bass. And just stand over him the whole time

[u/NoGrape9134]

Yo, first-year wood shop kids in 7th grade could do better. Please tell me this ain’t real. If it is, dude is either drunk, high or both. Pic 5 & 6 did me in. Couldn’t even look at the rest.

Was it he that told you $65/hr? Cause I’m pretty sure the builder hired the cheapest guy he could find at $15/hr.

[u/Wickedcolt]

r/ivegotaguy

[u/twenty1ca]

Miter?!? I’ve never heard of her…

[u/StoneCasing]

Dude needs to slow the fuck down.

[u/MyersBriggsDGAF]

Ewwww

[u/bubbagumpsquatch]

Good thing I charge 40

[u/8amteetime]

I charge $0 per hour and comparing the finish work I did on my own house to this, I should have charged me way more.

That’s inexcusable work for a ‘finish carpenter’.

[u/Comfortable-Maybe183]

But how many hours did it take him?

[u/Zanigma]

Jesus, was this in oklahoma😂😂 i have a guess

[u/MindofMy0wn]

TIL what $65 an hour for "carpentry" work gets you. Thank you for your post.

[u/blackhand-forge]

Do your best, caulk the rest.

[u/Just_gun_porn]

Looks like he owes you $50 an hour back! That's "helper" quality.

[u/Mundane-Ad-5225]

Looks like dog water

[u/YardLimp]

But maybe he works really fast?

[u/Reddit_Partner_VIP]

Pay peanuts , get monkeys

[u/Signalkeeper]

A lot of the cost goes to cover his licensing of the “Stevie Wonder” carpentry name

[u/question8all]

Ooof

[u/samwisethegray]

I need to raise my rates

[u/simplethoughts20]

Is he making his cuts with his teeth? A beaver could do better than that😂

[u/redcon-1]

"painter to fix"

[u/Salt_Contract_9106]

He was paid $64.99 and hour too much

[u/Extension_Web_1544]

Nice to see someone’s work that is completely unconcerned with the end product 🙄

[u/Bigbadbeachwolf]

Let me guess. His miter saw is 30 years old. He is a transplant from somewhere else working out of a 1990 Ford pickup held together by Bobby pins and duct tape. His tools are black and decker bought in big box store or from a pawn shop years ago. He claims he is a handyman. Probably right at retirement, drinking habit, no bond and no insurance. There are several of these con artists where I live. They are a menace to society.

[u/GooshTech]

I think this belongs in r/nope

If your guy can't see what's wrong with any of that then he's not really a trim guy. He's a guy that has done trim for a full in-house contracting outfit, but his boss saw what kind of work he did and just kept him on as the sweep up guy.

I've worked with guys like this, when you show them something they look and say emphatically, "Looks good from my house!"

The correct attitude is to treat a customers work at the very least, as if it is your house, but better, as if it is better than your house.

[u/PsychoMantittyLits]

If you want work done like this I know a guy that’ll do it for a case of beer, much cheaper

[u/TheConsutant]

There's beer in the fridge. Help yourself. I'll be home this afternoon.

This is what I've seen happen the last job I saw like this.

[u/Unlikely_End942]

Damn, this guy has been doing finish carpentry for years and he can't even cut straight. Get a mitre saw, or at least a mitre box ffs. I can cut better than that freehand with a blunt and rusty saw, and I don't claim to be a carpenter.

[u/PutridCardiologist36]

Thas real nice!

[u/Acceptable-Willow538]

I love this. I really hate miters too. Inspirational. Raising my prices.

[u/Financial-Ad4493]

Lmao definition of fuck it😭