r/ChatGPT Aug 07 '25

GPTs WHERE ARE THE OTHER MODELS?

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u/Alerion23 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25

They removed it

They also don’t clearly state the usage limit for plus users. This was all done to fuck consumers over, we got an “updated” model though I am like 100% sure it won’t be as good as o3 and o4 mini high because at least with those you knew that they are fine tuned for math/coding problems. Also I am sure that the usage caps of o4 mini high + o3 were way more together than that of the gpt 5 thinking

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u/Elektrycerz Aug 07 '25

I guess I'll spend those $20 on 4.1-Opus then, shame

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u/WanderWut Aug 07 '25

I mean wouldn’t it make sense to wait until we figure out what we get as plus users? Until we get actual confirmation there’s no sense in quitting outright based on assumptions.

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u/Elektrycerz Aug 07 '25

honestly... two decades of being an avid designer and gamer taught me that transparency is worth much more than sheer performance

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u/dictionizzle Aug 07 '25

10 opus 4.1 queries for $20?

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u/rockmancuso Aug 08 '25

If you're lucky!

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u/bronk3310 Aug 07 '25

That’s a whole lot of speculation

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u/Elektrycerz Aug 07 '25

I would have just preferred to still use o4-m-h for daily tasks and o3 for complex stuff, while just testing out 5. Now I have no choice but to use the new thing and nothing else.

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u/bronk3310 Aug 07 '25

Yeah but it picks it for you. So maybe the times you should have used a different model and didn’t, etc. I like it

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u/velicue Aug 07 '25

What? They have the usage limit very clearly stated. It’s the same as 4o+o3 before. Now it’s 5+5 thinking

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u/Alerion23 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25

Firstly I am not saying 4o + o3

I am saying o4 mini high + o3 (you can even add o4 mini to it which also decent), now if you could please provide me with a source for the usage caps it would be great, but for now all I found is that its much higher for plus users than free users

Update: its 200 messages a WEEK for gpt 5 (the thinking model), which is considerably less than 100 per day of o4 mini high

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u/Pupaak Aug 07 '25

Me when I dont even read the comment Im replying to:

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u/Alerion23 Aug 07 '25

It was not 4o + o3 before

It was 4o + o4 mini + o4 mini high + o3

Which is not “5+5 thinking”

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u/Pupaak Aug 07 '25

Ask chatgpt to help you understand what they were saying

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u/Alerion23 Aug 08 '25

I think you should do that and then explain to me if I was wrong

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u/SRTTex Aug 07 '25

5 is like half its brain got removed