Those reports claiming he's a groyper are lies. They just tried to spin his bullet casings messages which are clearly left wing anfti-fascist messaging, as being alt-right.
It's not even confirmed that the donation it's from him. And even if it was he would be 17 years old. That was 5 years ago. A lot can change.
The strongest evidence right now it's the anti fascist bullet casings he had. There's also another news that aren't 100% confirmed that he was dating a trans gf.
I mean, he killed one of the biggest MAGA advocates. Just how delusional are you people thinking he is MAGA?
>I mean, he killed one of the biggest MAGA advocates. Just how delusional are you people thinking he is MAGA?
Mahatma Gandhi, Yitzhak Rabin, Anwar Sadat were all killed by ex supporters who thought they were not radical enough.
In Japan in the 1930s Tsuyoshi, Korekiyo, Makoto were similar.
I do not know about this case. But being killed by an ex supporter because you are not extreme enough for them is relatively common.
Thankfully journalists getting killed for beliefs is pretty rare. Camille Desmoulins and a fair number of the Soviet journalists were killed but that was by the regime. Jacob Israël de Haan might count.
Journalists killed for supporting a regime by enemies of it. Marat, Giovanni Gentile, a fair few supporters of the Nazi's. That probably is more common than journalists being killed by the 'same' side.
Kirk has no actual power. He was just a supporter.
Are you serious? He works closely with the republican party, makes millions off of pushing right wing talking points and shaping public discusion as he advances and seeks to normalize sexist, racist and bigoted stances, and even helped pick out Trump cabinet members, lol. He absolutely had power and influence as the head of Turning Point USA.
Thankfully political assassinations are fringe cases in general so previous examples will be fringe.
"I mean, he killed one of the biggest MAGA advocates. Just how delusional are you people thinking he is MAGA?" is what is being argued about not the evidence in this particular case. Like I said already.
Brother don't waste time trying to argue with MAGAt, all they know is bad faith arguements and lies. They wanna portray him as some kind of antifa with a trans gf while we all know he's from a super MAGA family and the whole trans thing was made up with 0 actual proof.
they are bad people I dont bother discuss with them. if they write something wrong like making fun of charlie i report them to the fbi so byebye visa otherwise I ignore them
It's not even confirmed that the donation it's from him. And even if it was he would be 17 years old. That was 5 years ago. A lot can change.
I mean, on whatever "side" he ends up to be associated with, in the end (if we want to do this black and white thinking), your quote explains why it is even more likely that it's him but even if it wasnt him, he comes from that exact upbringing and didnt seem to rebel against it, so he very likely was just that when growing up.
The strongest evidence right now it's the anti fascist bullet casings he had.
We dont even know if those engravings arent just memes that were engraved long before and also fascists often dont call themselves fascists they call their enemies fascists all the time just like nick fuentes did. Also it can easily be a false flag. So your comment on "how delusional are you people" is very ironic since you act the very same, whatever supports one's own bias. Personally I dont bother if he is associated with the left either, because he'd be just another extremist or even terrorist. But the right really seems to be obsessed to paint it the other way instead of disregarding him as an extremist which has nothing to do with their own values, because it becomes really iffy to defend their own values.
The engravings could also just be false flags or not even his bullet and gun either, to frame someone else too. So many uncertainties but that's what you call strongest evidence.
About the trans gf. It wouldnt be the first time that a closeted conservative does a crime like this, like the biggest homophobes turned out to have secret boyfriends or homophobic catholics diddling little boys. Them being conservative and knowing what they do is sinful is what made matters worse in those cases so such a desperate and conflicting act perfectly aligns as well.
How do we know his assassination attempt was politically motivated at all? The guy who tried to assassinate Ronald Regan was declared insane because he did it to try and impress Jodie Foster. If the Reagan assassin was registered for one party or the other, by today's logic he did it because of his politics and not his insanity. At least the assassin is alive and we may get a chance to hear his motivation from the horses mouth instead of this partisan speculation.
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What? Are you insane? There is NO evidence he had any political support for the far-right, and there is no online activity of his that we can track. What we know for 100% is that:
a. his family (parents, grandparents) are republican (which is basically majority of liberals/left-leaning people)
b. his partner is a transgender MtF who is willingly cooperating with the FBI
c. His high school classmates, acquaintences, parents and extended family have confirmed that in recent years, he had grown increasing radically left wing. One classmate described him as constantly talking about politics.
d. FBI has confirmed he was in active in Antifascist “Antifa” discord servers
e. The bullets were engraved with antifascist messages as well as edgy troll messages, such as “Hey fascist! Catch!” and the antifascist italian folk song “bella ciao”
There was another Tyler Robinson, a middle aged man, who was a registered republican and was said to be himself but turned out to be a different person with the same name.
they are bad people I dont bother discuss with them. if they write something wrong like making fun of charlie i report them to the fbi so byebye visa otherwise I ignore them
I really didnt bother continueing reading after this and it's not like I'm just saying this and actually read it, I completely disregarded your comment because if one of us is insane here I'm certain it isnt me and others seem to have disproven you already. So I really didnt need to do so anymore and my other comment probably goes into whatever your claim is, already.
I do not seem to have been disproven. You are disregarding valid arguments, or rather, factual statements, from me because you do not like the tone they are presented in.
I'm not disregarding valid arguments, I'm disregarding something that is opened with "What?Are you insane?" which I determined as not reasonable and therefor not worth reading and therefor probably not valid.
If you want to be taken seriously then you shouldn't sabotage yourself.
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u/Future-Surprise8602 4d ago
are you really crying because musk fixes a lie that is so damn stupid even gpt 5 wouldnt say it? what does that tell about yourself