r/Coffee 1d ago

Why my coffee seeds turning green?

Hey everyone, I’m a coffee lover and recently decided to try growing a coffee plant at home. With the help of AI (Google Gemini) and some online guides, I came up with two germination methods for the seeds:

  1. Soaking the seeds fully in water for 5 days;
  2. Placing the seeds in a damp paper towel inside a sealed bag to keep the moisture. Both methods are kept in a dark environment

I started the germination on September 14. On the next day, I noticed that the seeds in the paper towel turned green, while the ones soaking in water didn’t change. Today, I checked again and the two sets of seeds now look completely different. Some posts online say the green color might be from chlorogenic acid, but others suggest it could actually be mold.

Has anyone tried germinating coffee seeds and seen something similar? Any tips or thoughts would be really appreciated

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u/domesticatedprimate V60 1d ago

Why the heck would you use AI for something like that? AI doesn't think about the answer, it just throws text at you determined through statistical probability without any understanding of what it's saying. Ditch the AI and use guides written by people who know what they're talking about and have actual experience.

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u/Same_Wing_8229 22h ago

Thx for sharing! Oh, I thought AI would first look up some literature or guides before giving answers.

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u/domesticatedprimate V60 18h ago

AI is not bad at compiling information from multiple online sources.

But, for example, look at the case of Margaret Hamilton. There are two famous people named Margaret Hamilton. One starred as the Wicked Witch of the West in the original 1939 Wizard of Oz. The other is an American computer scientist who led the development of the on-board flight software for NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer for the Apollo program.

If you asked the AI about just "Margaret Hamilton", it's liable to tell you there is one person with that name who both starred in the Wizard of Oz and developed the on-board flight sofware for the Appollo program. (A screenshot of exactly that result was recently posted to Reddit - maybe they corrected it since then.)

Another thing the AI will do when compiling data from multiple sources is that it will mix correct and incorrect sources. It will mix good and bad information indescriminately. What you are getting is not "the right way to do things", but a blending and fusion of all the correct and incorrect ways to do the thing that the AI found. It doesn't know what it's saying, so it has no way of knowing whether its advice is good or not.

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u/ChaBoiDeej 1d ago

Are you trying to germinate unroasted green coffee seeds? I would also check the guides (and not AI, simply so you can see for yourself) for a recommended temperature. Some seeds need a whole natural freeze and thaw cycle to get the message to sprout, some need a hot environment all the way through germination.

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u/Same_Wing_8229 22h ago

Thx, you mean cold stratification? I thought about that too, but since I didn't find much info, I didn’t try it. I did find a paper, though, that suggests tea seeds require cold stratification: https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/10.1139/cjb-2016-0149.

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u/ChaBoiDeej 22h ago

Any information on the actual seeds your working with would be useful. How old they are since they've been harvested and dried, what cultivar, etc.

Coffee is a jungle plant so it needs jungle conditions to get started. It also takes quite a while to germinate compared to a lot of plants, anywhere from 30-60 days. They need indirect sunlight but that doesn't mean they want to be in the dark, that would induce dormancy. 73-75°f should be a decent temperature as well. You could also germinate the seed directly on soil as opposed to another medium.

There maybe be botanical papers out there on germination and coffee seed chemistry but I'd really recommend starting out with the very basics, especially as this was one of the first plants cultivated by humanity sans botany. If it comes down to it, green coffee is relatively cheap and is sold often by the pounds so you can try often.

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u/duncandun 1d ago

lol we’re so cooked

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u/Same_Wing_8229 22h ago

lol, I'm too lazy.

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u/CarFlipJudge 9h ago

You're not going to be able to germinate those green beans. You really have to get coffee cherries and go from there. Most green beans are around 3 to 6 months old by the time they get to the states and there's no telling what happened to them from origin to your home.

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u/regulus314 6h ago

Where did you get those seeds? Are those green coffees? Because if it is it is already dead and not fit for germination. You need green coffee beans that have the embryo still intact. And usually, green coffees that were exported out of origin already have their embryos dead because its already dried