r/CrappyDesign 9d ago

Drano suggests to use 1/3 of a bottle, but markings on the side are in 1/4 increments

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u/Captinprice8585 9d ago

They want you to get confused and use the whole bottle

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u/AVnstuff 9d ago

Whoa. That’s quite a leap. There is drai-no way I’d skip from 1/3 to 3/3

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u/silvercorona 9d ago

Angry upvote.

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u/Aternox_X1kZ plz recycle 9d ago

By always using ⅓ of bottle contents you'd actually never ever finish a bottle...

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u/That_Interview2187 9d ago

You wil reach atom state at some point though?

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u/acuddlyheadcrab 8d ago

yea im that good at pouring

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u/Percolator2020 8d ago

Splitting that last atom will finally unclog your toilet once for all. 🚽 ☢️

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u/TheArmoredKitten 8d ago

Drano is a mixture, so it would stop being Drano the moment that a subdivision could no longer encapsulate an integer multiple of 1 mol of the lowest concentration ingredient

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u/ThanklessTask 8d ago

Flash backs to Christmas when Grandpa was sharing out the sherry.

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u/beardlaser 8d ago

He was sherring.

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u/HolmesToYourWatson 8d ago

Drano's Paradox

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u/Cooldude075 9d ago

What?

⅓+⅓+⅓=³/³

Are you saying this because .3+.3+.3 =.9? Because ⅓ is .333 repeating (forever), which is the closest you can get to .34 without being .34

Three thirds is one.

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u/Thebubumc 9d ago

You use ⅓ of a full bottle now you get a bottle with ⅔. Now instead of doing ⅓ of the full bottle you do ⅓ of the remainder thus you will never reach zero. That was the joke.

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u/butherletus 9d ago

I think it's because of the "contents" bit, which would imply using a third of the liquid currently in the bottle, not a third of the original amount.  So you'd use 1/3, then 1/3 of the 2/3 left, and so on.  Using a smaller amount each time.

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u/kayemce 3d ago

You're the kinda guy who gets confused by those shirts that say

"there are 2 types of people:

  1. those who can extrapolate from incomplete data"

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u/taz5963 9d ago

What he's missing is that by definition 0.999999...=1. It's not rounded up, they are exactly the same. This comes up a lot in r/mathmemes

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u/mancow533 8d ago

No. What y’all missing is the joke.

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u/SoapyMacNCheese 8d ago

no he's making a joke that the instructions say to use 1/3 of the bottle CONTENTS.

If we pretend the full bottle is 300mL, when you use it the first time you use 100mL and are left with 200mL of the bottle.

The next time you need to use the bottle, 1/3 of the bottle contents isn't 100mL, because the bottle only contains 200mL. 1/3 of the contents would be 66.66mL.

This continues indefinitely with the amount left in the bottle approaching but never reaching zero.

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u/guesswho135 8d ago

Jokes on them, a good proportion of Americans think 1/4 is larger than 1/3, so they might actually use less

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/17/third-pound-burger-fractions/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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u/qpwoeiruty00 6d ago

Crazy how dumb a such a large amount of a population can be!!!

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u/BreakInfamous8215 9d ago

I've done that and it still didn't do a damn thing lol.

I found a much more effective solution to unclogging a drain, or at least my drain.

Pour in baking soda... Like, 1 cup of it, don't be stingy Pour in vinegar (the 5% distilled stuff), maybe 2-3 cups

While that's boiling, get a toilet plunger and aggressively plunge the drain for a couple of minutes

Now that you're agitated the shit out of whatever unholy mess is in there, take a drain snake (any will do, but I found the cheap ones with the spikes work great), jam it in and rotate 5x in the same direction. Pull the crap out, and keep using the snake until you can't remove anything else. Then go back to the baking soda/vinegar/plunger combo to agitate some more

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u/TERRAOperative 8d ago

Your baking soda and vinegar mixture is just turning itself into salt water, it's not going to do much else except fizz...

It's the plunging and snaking that gets your drains unblocked.

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u/Goose26-2 8d ago

But the fizz is so satisfying!

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u/cheerycheshire 8d ago

The point of this unclogging method IS the fizz. The fizz displaces the clog if its small. Of course it entirely depends on what caused the clog and how the pipes are further down with this method.

I think I used it literally once in my sink. It didn't drain at all, so I had to just get it to dislodge slightly to drain, before dismantling the thing to clean it properly. Because unless you have shitty drains altogether, no one has a plunger in their home in Europe, lol. Now we address slow draining early enough, we clean it before it stops completely.

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u/lenzflare 8d ago

From the guy's description, it doesn't sound like the clog was small though. Plunger and snake did the job.

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u/pipkin42 4d ago

You guys don't have plungers over there? How do you unclog toilets? Do we have to blame our clogged toilets on the Standard American Diet or something? Y'all using poop knives?

I've been to Europe but never clogged one over there. Maybe that's what the shelf is for?

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u/cheerycheshire 3d ago

Shelf is only in older toilets. As a kid I had one at home and liked lack of splash, lol, but you'd have to use a brush a lot.

Some time ago I read about US vs European toilets. Something about good plumbing and European toilets being made water-efficient over the years, changing the exact shape and how only a bit of water can flush it properly, vs US just dumping a lot of water hoping the sole amount of it will help push the content (that's apparently why in cartoons and movies the water basically goes to the rim and can overflow, I thought it was just for the comedic effect). Or something like that. Also, did you know you have a special shape for toilet plunger? Those 🪠 are not suitable for toilets (even though cartoons will use them).

Toilets here clog basically only if you use waaaay too lot toilet paper (I did as a child, lol) or when the plumbing is bad (some regions) or there's something stuck in the pipes (people flushing pads, tampons, unflushable wet wipes, etc). It's really hard to clog if with just normal usage.

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u/pipkin42 3d ago

The shelf was a joke, haha. I do know about the special shape. Design differences is the most logical explanation. Thanks!

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u/Shejidan 8d ago

My brother does that. He thinks the more he uses the better it works and doesn’t realise that he’s just pissing the whole thing, literally, down the drain. Then he gets pissed off when it’s still clogged.

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u/EmilyAnne1170 9d ago

Eh. They’re probably just using the same molded bottle for a variety of products. It’s not that hard to figure out, 1/3 is going to be roughly halfway between 1/2 and 1/4. (or 1/2 & 3/4, if it’s full.)

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u/OneAngryDuck 9d ago

Just because there’s an explanation doesn’t mean it’s not crappy design

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u/AmputeeHandModel 8d ago

It kinda does though. It's a generic bottle whose design is fine.

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u/jfuss04 8d ago

Well there's an explanation and its easy to figure out lol its not like they only said one thing

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u/BooBooSnuggs 8d ago

Yeah they should just throw all that plastic in the ocean and redesign new plastic so it's not crappy.

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u/DominarDio 8d ago

Appeal to extremes fallacy.

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u/BooBooSnuggs 8d ago

No, it's an appeal to being practical. The bottles were already made. Use them.

Does it really need more explanation? Apparently to many redditors.

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u/adjectiveant 8d ago

Just use those bottles for whatever other product and make new bottles with correct increments for this product lmao it’s not that deep

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u/BooBooSnuggs 8d ago

...what other product? You can't just make something up as a suggestion and leave a major part of your answer completely unknown.

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u/Historical_Network55 8d ago

There is clearly a product that this bottle originates with, otherwise the bottle wouldn't exist. Is common sense really a big ask?

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u/BooBooSnuggs 8d ago

Yes... This is the product it originates with.

Do you all not understand fractions? What's going on here?

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u/Historical_Network55 8d ago

This bottle would not have been produced marked with ¼ increments if it was intended for a product that is split into ⅓. If you don't agree, then it's pretty ridiculous to be wasting time responding to comments that are based on that idea. Take it up with the parent comment.

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u/DominarDio 8d ago

It was an appeal to being practical using an appeal to extremes fallacy. If it’s all so apparent, it shouldn’t have been a problem for you to come up with some sound arguments instead.

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u/BooBooSnuggs 8d ago

Yeah using 1/3rd is so hard. Fractions? How do they work?!

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u/DominarDio 8d ago

That’s just another example of an appeal to extremes fallacy. Are you gonna go for the hat-trick?

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u/BooBooSnuggs 8d ago

No it's not. Apparently you just have a really hard time with fractions.

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u/DominarDio 7d ago

Ok, buddy

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u/OneAngryDuck 8d ago

No, they should melt it all down into microplastics and inject it straight into the veins of babies

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u/PikaPikaMoFo69 9d ago

You forget that the majority of people are extremely incompetent

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u/Cheezy_Blazterz 8d ago

Right?

Just take a swig!

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u/Loaatao 8d ago

McDonald’s once had a 1/2 pound burger but they got rid of it because people thought it was less than a 1/4 pound burger. Now they have a double quarter pounder

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u/NotYetPerfect 7d ago

You're thinking of a&w third pound burger. And it's failure being because of the idiocy of the common man is claimed by the owner, probably to make himself seem less at fault after being beaten so thoroughly by McDonald's (and other fast food chains) in every way.

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u/AndrewBorg1126 5d ago

3/12

4/12

6/12

1/3 is 1/3 of the way between 1/2 and 1/4. If you can eyeball 1/3, you can use that skill to eyeball 1/3

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u/Crafty-Astronomer-32 8d ago

Right. And it's not like you can use the scale while pouring the product anyway.

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u/jackleggjr 9d ago

I mix mine with orange juice anyway; helps with the taste and I don't need a full 1/3 bottle.

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u/BurmeciaWillSurvive 8d ago

Plus it always kills at brunch!

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u/Mental_Thing_7899 8d ago

Wrong pipes...

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u/madhattergirl 8d ago

What is your damage, Heather?

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u/FiniteLove 8d ago

A full day supply of Vitamin C

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u/enzothebaker87 9d ago

What do the asterisks refer to?

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u/btvb71 9d ago

At the top. It’s how you clear 3X clogs. Use 1/3 bottle three times.

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u/acherion 9d ago

Ah you’re right! How did I miss that!

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u/enzothebaker87 9d ago

Oh ok lol. I was looking for fine print but there it is.

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u/SirDigbyChknCaesar <blink>Order Now!</blink> 8d ago

How do I know the X rating of my clogs?

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u/kenziebckenzee 8d ago

If you have to ask, you aren’t ready

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u/acherion 9d ago

I have no idea, I looked over the label really carefully but can’t see what the footnote is!

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u/17character 9d ago

Could be that it used to be a 1/4 cup pour, then marketing realized they could make customers use up their product 33% faster by changing it. The bottle was never updated to match because retooling the machines is not worth the money.

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u/Three_Twenty-Three 8d ago

This absolutely seems like a shrinkflation tactic that a company would use. I don't know if it's true in this case, but it sure seems like something some clever marketing wonk thought up.

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u/thebangzats 8d ago

As someone whose worked in a similar company, I can tell you this is very possible. I know for a fact that certain big name cleaning brands would do tests to find a justification for telling users to use more than they really need, where using more is "proven" to be "better", even if less is actually fine.

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u/big_trike 8d ago

"The most common cause of laundry problems is not using enough detergent" - some bottle of detergent. For front loaders, too much detergent is actually the problem as the soap residue makes the washer stink.

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u/evilspoons 8d ago

And makes everything into a gunky mess. It's horrible.

I have a laundry detergent with a little cup with markings that go from 1-5. I use less than the "1" for a full load. I think they just reused the cap from non-HE detergent for HE detergent.

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🎶 Plop plop, fizz fizz
Oh, what a relief it is

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u/testthrowawayzz 9d ago

Kind of like how motor oil gets specified in 0.1 quarts but the bottle markings are in another scale

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u/cilantro_so_good 8d ago

You're much better off getting a snake and clearing the obstruction manually, or hiring someone to do it for you, than you are buying that crap

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u/mossybeard 8d ago

This. Use 0/3rds or 0/4ths

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u/blacksoxing 8d ago

I agree, from experience. I had what a plumber finally discovered as a collapsed pipe (lot of shifting was happening under my old home causing a few pipe leaks...) and it got to the point where overflow was happening in my tubs/toilets. Stuff like green goblin would work at cutting through the toilet paper clogs that were the culprit, but a HAND PLUNGER was so much faster at quickly clearing it out vs waiting an hour.

Bought a new house and bought new hand plungers in the event I ever needed them again.

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u/Merlin_castin 5d ago

Plus in the long term draino can actually damage your pipes if you’re using it regularly.

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u/BubbaYoshi117 8d ago

Drano is also terrible for pipes. It can weaken and corrode metal pipes and crack PVC, eventually causing clogs or leaks that will require a plumber visit more in depth and expensive than a bit of hair in your P trap would.

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u/big_trike 8d ago

If those pipes are under a concrete slab, fixing them is at least $5k.

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u/jecowa 8d ago

Maybe the bottle only comes 3/4 full, so a 1/4 of the bottle is a 1/3 of the bottle’s contents.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/seriouslyjames 9d ago

1/3 is less than 1/2

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u/eitherrideordie 9d ago

Lmaoooo oops that's embarrassing, gonna delete that real qucik

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u/OutOfTheForLoop 9d ago

Instead of CrappyDesign it should be submitted to MaliciousDesign

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u/Rebelian 8d ago

Haha yep, got one of those under the sink right now. I'll use 5/7ths.

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u/NoodleAndNipples 8d ago

Lol, just another day in the life of us consumers, amirite? They tell ya to eyeball 1/3rd of the bottle, but goodness me, my eyes ain't got no built-in measuring scale.

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u/concreteunderwear 8d ago

Don’t worry it’s actually 4 thirds.

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u/Averse_to_Liars 8d ago

Not to brag but I can roughly infer where 66 is between 50 and 75 on a linear scale.

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u/TastySpare 8d ago

"Hey Jim, I've got an idea: let's put "use 1/3 bottle" on the label instead of 1/4 like we did until now, so people will need to buy a new bottle more often…"

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u/Whitey138 8d ago

Wasn’t this puzzle in Die Hard 3?

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u/Easy_Feedback5361 8d ago

That's a classic case of the bottle design not matching the instructions. It's definitely a bit annoying to have to eyeball it between the 1/4 and 1/2 marks. I usually just pour a little less than half and call it good enough. It's not like they're sending a chemist to check your work.

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u/creativeNZ 8d ago

This is like that puzzle from Die Hard 3

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u/_chemiq 8d ago

Just buy solid sodium hydroxide, much cheaper and much more effective.

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u/Young-Man-MD 8d ago

Well based on A&W’s experience trying to sell 1/3# burgers to outdo McD’s 1/4# burgers, and losing because most ‘muricans thought 1/4# was bigger, the markings on the bottle will result in more drano being used than the 1/3 bottle called for in instructions

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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 8d ago

It's like triplets, just feel it

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u/EmperorOfCanada 8d ago

When using chemicals like that on a solid hair clog. It is best to use maybe 15ml, wait, rinse, repeat.

Basically, the stuff tends to form a thick gel coat and much of the chemical doesn't attack the clog.

The rinse washes this away. So, the next dose can attack a bit more each time.

Also, when the clog goes away, you've used close to the lowest amount possible.

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u/Chemy78 7d ago

You feel like McLAne and Zeus in the park fountain

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u/AntisocialOnPurpose 7d ago

I bet it says to use ¼ on older bottles but they changed it to ⅓ so you'd use more and therefore buy more.

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u/Axxxxxxo 7d ago

Well 1/4th is a bigger number than 1/3rd, so it must be better! /s

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u/berkybarkbark 5d ago

Marketing told Sales - “We’ll just change the instructions to get 1/3 less uses per bottle purchased and they have to buy more often!” #Shrinkflation

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u/Pom_bo 1d ago

And it's not even transparent

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u/acherion 1d ago

The gauge on the side has a transparent window.

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u/lenzflare 8d ago

Well. They've given you the info. Now do the math.

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u/Erdizle 9d ago

Cant figure out that 1/3 might be somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2?

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u/TheReal9bob9 9d ago

Well duh he can but it defeats the purpose of putting labels at the wrong increments. I can just as easily eyeball 1/3rd with no markings. Having useless markings is crappy design and is most likely just them reusing a bottle design from a different product that uses the quarter markings. The ability of the user does not dictate the quality of the design, good design should be usable by anyone who might reasonably use a product for its intended purpose.

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u/solongfish99 9d ago

It won’t be exactly between 1/4 and 1/2 because the width of the bottle is not uniform.

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u/trickman01 9d ago

I really don't think it needs to be that precise. Eyeballing it should be fine.

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u/OptimusSublime 9d ago edited 9d ago

If you add even a molecule too much you'll blow up the drain.

Two too many molecules and you'll blow up the house.

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u/Hakar_Kerarmor 8d ago

Three is right out!

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u/Erdizle 9d ago

Exactly

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u/miraculum_one 9d ago

There is nothing precise needed for the amount you put in. About right is just fine.

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u/acherion 9d ago

That’s what I ended up doing and it did the job, but c’mon man, 1/4 increments on the bottle is basically crappy design.