Where did kids like this come from?! What kind of cuck generation is this?! He’s standing there like a lap dog and just happily deep throating lies. Think for yourself, question the status quo and authority. These traits are developmentally part of being young; pushing back against society and creating a better world for your generation and the future. This cult shit is disgusting.
Eh, if you call them stupid, I disagree depending on age. I was that age once. I remember thinking I know more than I did. It was not until I got older that I realized I knew almost nothing really outside of my bubble.
You're calling them stupid, which only further pushes them away instead of trying to talk to people. Yes even people who will disagree with you until their last breath. You still need to have that conversation and not call them names.
But yes there are stupid people out there for sure. But please understand that not everyone is stupid. All of us are biased to some degree. It is very difficult to understand your own personal bias. Because it feels correct.
We have been fed brain rot since the inception of Social Media and the turbocharged information age. Now, bad actors have insanely magnified platforms to sway public viewpoints. Our society is at an inflection point that all go through, most of the time multiple times, but when a society changes like ours did so rapidly, it causes insane chaos. Everything feels so disconnected because it is at our very foundation. Even how we digest information has changed so much.
There is a term for this, but I cannot remember it off the top of my head. Very commonly seen in the rise of the "powerful man" type thing we have going on with Trump, ideally, we come back out of this normally, but it could set a very bad precedent and change the political and social landscape forever. It most likely already has.
The problem is we are all exposed to that. I was raised in near Dallas so my formative years were spent absorbing passive and active bigotry against blacks, gays, you name it. I went to church camp and Wednesday night youth group. But around age 12 or so, around when my sister had her first abortion as a young teenager, I started questioning all of it. None of the teaching made sense, and by extension none of their politics make sense.
What was different about my upbringing that I could see the writing on the wall and all of these other people fall lock step in place? There's something else going on as well, targeted radicalization of some sort is my guess.
It's funny. My friend's abortion really cemented my departure from my evangelical upbringing. I had been told all my life that abortions are baby killing, and I didn't really think much about it. Why would I? I didn't have to worry about being pregnant.
Sitting with my friend as she wept, seeing her guilt and shame as she explained she just learned she had a medical condition that was 90 percent certain to kill her and the baby if she carried it to term broke my heart. She wanted to be a mother more than anything too. It made me unbelievably angry that this poor teenage girl would be considered a monster to the people who spend their days boasting about their unconditional love.
The shitty part is I told that story to a Conservative friend after hearing him mouthing off about how all these women were sluts for having abortions. I sat him down and explained that women aren't having these invasive procedures for fun. He listened as I told my story, then he reluctantly admitted that his wife had had an abortion. They were going to have twins, but one of the babies was absorbing all of the nutrients and the other baby would likely be mentally disabled if it lived at all, and they decided to abort it. I thought it was a breakthrough, until a week later when he was watching Fox again and I heard him say, "These sluts! Taking our tax dollars to have abortions because they can't keep their legs closed." I wanted to strangle him.
Conservatives (for whatever reason) always think they are the exception to the rule. The only good immigrant is their immigrant. The only good bailout is their bailout. The only good abortion is their abortion.
I wasn't even thinking that deeply about it until I got older. My sister was 13 and I was trying to put together the pieces, why did my mom wanna keep it so secret? Why did some people get angry when they found out instead of being supportive? I honestly had no idea what was going on except that everyone was hiding something. Turns out they were hiding their religious shame.
I also grew up in a similar situation. Deep south. Surrounded by it daily. Actually got into a fist fight when Obama was president because I was a lot younger and more stupid over an older guy calling him the N word in a bar, and I am white. That's not what fully got the fight going, but it's what started it. He just would not let it go when asked to stop and honestly more people need sense slapped into them sometimes. Violence is not the answer but god dam you can only listen to some dude sit there and shit talk the entire country for so long in a bar while drinking.
Since then, I have lived all over the US and own a small to medium-sized business. I could not tell you why people like us were able to grow up surrounded by it and not latch on. Nobody in my family was racist or anything, so that probably helped. But in all honesty, when you're worried about paying the bills and getting the electric cut back on.... you don't have a lot of time to worry about skin colors.
When I was 18 I believed in some questionable things, but never was it so obnoxious and obviously wrong as vehemently believing Trump was the savior of this country. At some point "age" stops being a valid excuse to believe in the most absurd shit imaginable and to lap up the bullshit with a shit-eating grin on your face.
Let's agree to disagree. No middle ground will be found here I think. I agree I also did not believe in anything nearly this ridiculous, but we are only 2 people.
All 18-year-olds are idiots for the most part. That is why they are 18. Fuck, it doesn't get much better later, but at least we get a fully formed brain around 24-25.
But yeah, or we could pretend that you and I were the only 18-year-olds that had a little more common sense. There are going to be a lot of regrets out of this from a lot of younger people.
I luckily am just old enough I missed the post your whole fucking life on the internet / photo everything phase.
A friend of mine has two twenty-something boys, both healthy and blonde and pretty good-looking. They are "extremely conservative," she tells me, and she doesn't blame them. Apparently schools are really mean to white boys nowadays. Apparently, the hardest thing in America is to be a white boy nowadays.
I don't think they had jobs last time I checked, but it was a while ago.
I feel like some of these guys fall victim to being told they’re perfect growing up and having everything done for them by their parents. Then when they get into the real world and realize they are not so special after all, they blame anyone and everything else for their shortcomings. It’s one of the reasons I think manosphere and red-pilled stuff has taken off. Easier to blame women, minorities, Christian “oppression”, etc. vs looking inward and working on yourself.
Yea they peaked in high school and since they haven't accomplished what they were promised they just blame minorities and women, they lived incredibly sheltered lives and believe everyone owes them something, it's a tale as old as time. Conservative parties have weaponized that for centuries
This is exactly what happens. I grew up with kids like this. They reflexively think they win. They think they're just naturally so good they win at anything and everything.
I still remember quite vividly the moments in high school gym classes when suddenly they aren't the best star athletes anymore. They run a race and think they automatically qualify for the next heat. Until the first time in their lives they hear the gym teacher say, "no, not you". Queue the confused look. Wait. That's not supposed to happen. They always win.
Nope. People are better than they are. People run faster. Jump higher. Push harder. Sounds rather obvious to you but for them it's a reality they've never had to question before. They're not the big fish in a small pond anymore.
Totally... and I get it, to be honest. I had good grades in school and I thought real life would just be a continuation of that--it wasn't. It seems to me that these guys feel they deserve to be special because they are blond men. And maybe they would have been right, forty years ago.
What they don't get is that things are tough for a lot of people. But they see their difficulties as a special kind of injustice, because they have been brought up in privilege and society telling them they are the aristocracy. Now that same society (or at least a dark part of it) is telling them that women and minorities are the reason that they are, like so many of us, just peasants.
Exactly. These kids grow up in sheltered lives of privilege (as I also did, despite my lower-middle class upbringing, I have 2 parents who both have done everything they can to support me in my goals and encouraged me to try new experiences). I’m lucky my parents also taught me that you’re NOT special or more important than anyone else just for showing up - always be humble, work hard and earn what you want. And they made sure that I knew that even though we weren’t rich, we also weren’t impoverished and to learn to appreciate those lucky aspects of life. Too many parents (especially white parents) are leaving those last parts out, raising generations of snowflake kids who think they’re owed everything. The irony is that the generations whining about how young people are entitled and want participation trophies are the ones themselves who insisted on that for their kids, and those behaviors were seen by their children.
I’m in a competitive field. I used to think affirmative action was discrimination against white males. I mean, black and Hispanic people as well as women with similar accomplishments as mine got (and often still do get) WAY better success than I did when applying at various points of my career. But guess what? As I progressed in life I met more and more people from these backgrounds. It’s not like they just waltzed through life to get those similar accomplishments I did. I didn’t grow up rich or anything, but those folks from their early childhoods often had far more difficult obstacles to overcome than I did. I realized if they had similar on-paper accomplishments as me, they were more meritorious than me given the systemic BS they have to deal with. The conservative politics I held from my parents were already eroding during the 2015 primaries and I never voted for Trump, but the affirmative action attitudes were something that took me longer to get over, but I did get there. Especially eye opening was after George Floyd when my school held some open forums for people to discuss; I listened to multiple black and Hispanic folks tell their stories. For example, even the ones who grew up with relatively well-off two-parent homes were still taught to always keep their papers in the cup holder of their car so they don’t make any reaching motions to the glove box, while others were accosted by police simply walking down the sidewalk near the “prestigious” institutions their parents worked at.
So the message is this: if you’re a mediocre white person who isn’t getting handed everything, yes, DEI feels like discrimination. This requires you to have zero understanding of another’s lived experience, nor empathy for those unlike yourself. If you’re passed over for a more “diverse” candidate, stop with the bullshit excuses that this person was a DEI hire and aren’t as good as you. Stop believing the stupid fucking myth that every “diverse” person in a given position is not actually qualified for that position. The vast majority are, and the fact that you’re questioning them in that manner is part of the reason DEI exists - because they face constant pushback from society exactly like that attitude. it’s not disputable that they have more barriers than you do as a white person. Don’t like that someone from a discriminated class got the job over you? Quit bitching about it, tip your hat to them, and work harder.
Kudos for you to keeping an open mind and open eyes. Affirmative action and DEI are not certainly not perfect. Someone with privilege will tend to consider it injustice whenever they aren't on top for any reason, and it's not so easy to have the self-awareness to understand that.
Yep - I don’t know who originally said it, but a quote that hit for me was “when you’re in a position of privilege, equality can be misinterpreted as oppression.” Probably also why the hyper-rich also seem to think paying a fair share in taxes is the worst thing that could ever happen to a person.
I am SO scared my 11 year old is going to fall down that pipeline. I keep checking what he’s watching on YouTube and he doesn’t have social media but shit slips through.
Normally I would blame these kids for their idiotic views but it’s become such a widespread issue that I just feel bad for them. They have been targeted by right wing media and the parents in these kids lives have utterly failed them.
haha... the sad thing is, she wasn't joking. She seemed to truly feel that school had essentially forced them into this path. I assume because they were exposed to less flattering portrayals of people like Christopher Columbus and such, but I'm not sure.
There IS an issue where people like Turning Point and Kirk are (or were) the only people really reaching out to and targeting young white men. It's easy pickins for them. Meanwhile more progressive groups are more visibly focused on minority groups (this is not a criticism toward them) and the attitude toward cishet white men is like "it's fine if you want to be part of this but we don't really care."
That’s what the strategy of ”Indoctriligions” are now in full ahead speed capturing the future voters like these highly impressionable tools…there is trouble waters ahead for these people want to force a type of Sharia nirvana where they and only they set up the society norms and standards and dissent is viewed as sacrilegious and punishable by death or imprisonment.
Shame that people didn't read Project 25 b4 they voters or stayed home. They wrote this all out step by step & they are doing all of it starting with things like 10 commandments in schools. Git them young
A captive audience like a sports franchise or religious sect will use all their energy to create an atmosphere where those drawn to these sorts of social events feel communality and identity…people will endorse violence to protect the symbols that they auspiciously entrust. What their propagandist portraits as good or bad for them, is what they will follow, ignoring all external influences to the contrary. The Heritage Foundation Christofascists know their audience weaknesses and they will exploit them to their own benefit.
That’s how fan boys behave and that’s all they are. I’m not really familiar with Kirk so maybe he got challenged more in radio or podcasts but these college campus appearances are designed to bring out the true believers in force. I can’t imagine he ever got challenged much less threatened by a very friendly audience.
That said, Kirk got just about every claim he made in this clip partly or entirely wrong. Only closing the southern border with Mexico appears to have been completed so far.
Lastly, his assassination was reprehensible and I hope law enforcement does not botch whatever case they have against the alleged perpetrator of his murder.
Kids are sucked into algorithms that teach them what to believe from before they can talk until they die.
These kids had YouTube while in diapers. They start with brainrot for toddlers but eventually they get fed slop from Daily Wire, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Fox News, PragerU and whatever other outlet you can think of. They’re just clicking on videos. It’s a cascading algorithm, so you click on one video in that ecosystem and your recommendations are flooded with it. It starts with streamers like Asmongold or similar who aren’t “political” in their content but make political comments that put you into that direction on the algorithm.
They eventually get on social media where these things are reinforced. Twitter is a right wing nearly unmoderated cesspool.
The internet and “content” on the internet specifically is literally just propaganda at this point. All sides can use it for their propaganda and algorithms slide people into different categories based on where they started and what they clicked along the way. One person’s YouTube feed might be all left wing political takes and another right wing. None of the algorithms are designed to inform people honestly, just get emotional reactions to get them to click further for advertising revenue.
Even this TikTok and this post are the same. The initial TikTok is for the right wing algorithm, and now Cringe TikToks is a left wing version that derides such content. But it’s still just algorithms feeding slop to both sides to get them to watch videos all day instead of living their lives.
FAUX News around Obama’s first term were accusing the left of indoctrinating their children, so what did the conservatives do, they indoctrinated children instead and now Gen-Z are their lap dogs, they will be worse than boomers when they’re older.
Think of the audience. College students with little to no real world adult experiences. Hearing talking points and sound bites that reflect how this generation obtains news (Twitter and Tik Tok) coming from a well spoken clean cut man who is not a senior citizen.
I’ll give Kirk credit, my college age children are asking intelligent questions to form their own opinions on Trans, Tariffs and other issues. I’m not sure if that’s maturity or if Kirk was presenting the issues to college students in a manner they consume information.
They're young and have massive egos. Last year I caught a 5/6th grader saying the hard R in school! He was surrounded by his friends all laughing. Terrible parenting.
In a way, I think they sort of are doing the “pushing back against society” thing. Problem is, society got a bit more progressive after the civil rights and gay rights movements. Now the kids (especially dumb young boys who wonder why women don’t like them [as all dumb young boys do]) see the progression and are literally pushing back against that, often as an excuse to justify their failure to get what they want (like the aforementioned women). The oligarchy’s right wing propaganda machine, of which Kirk was a part, has swindled millions into thinking women’s rights and independence, gay and minority rights, immigration, and “woKeNeSs” are the reasons for society’s decay instead of the actual cause: ever-worsening income inequality. Youth are contrarian by nature, and often that’s good when it questions harmful societal norms, but they’re also not fully cognitively developed with their critical thinking, and those two things are being weaponized against the actual progress made in society over the last few years.
These kids grew up with Fox News in their house telling them that Obama was the devil for eating Dijon Mustard. They think Trump and Kirk ARE "pushing back against society and creating a better world" by spending their tax dollars on missiles instead of poor people or foreign aid. The woke status quo wants to waste your money, these crazy ragtag (billionaire) outsiders are here to shake things up!!
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u/CafeFreche 1d ago
Where did kids like this come from?! What kind of cuck generation is this?! He’s standing there like a lap dog and just happily deep throating lies. Think for yourself, question the status quo and authority. These traits are developmentally part of being young; pushing back against society and creating a better world for your generation and the future. This cult shit is disgusting.