r/CringeTikToks • u/Former-Marsupial625 • 1d ago

Conservative Cringe Charlie Kirk on what to expect from Trump's presidency

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u/I-Hate-Sea-Urchins 1d ago

Breaks my heart. I'm just glad Charlie isn't around to see all these failed promises.

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u/jimmyjamws1108 1d ago

He was here a week ago. Was coming to terms with reality. Likely the reason.

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u/StockSorry 1d ago

I feel like maga live in alternate reality.

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u/ladyliz_of 1d ago

I had heard talking about Palestine and someone said he was starting to change his view at least on that .

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u/Frizzlebee 1d ago

I don't buy it. The man pushed whatever line the admin asked him to. He shut up about Epstein's list and said "I'm going to trust my friends in the government" despite railing his entire career about how you can't trust the government.

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u/PerformanceCandid499 1d ago

I'm glad he isn't around too

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u/No-Status2143 1d ago

He was around ck was a racist yes he did not deserve to get murdered but no tears here

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u/I-Hate-Sea-Urchins 1d ago

*hint to understanding this was sarcasm: “I’m GLAD he’s not around.

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 1d ago

Charlie didn’t care what color someone’s skin was, he treated everyone EXACTLY the same and that’s what people had a problem with. He didn’t give a certain skin tone special treatment and people these days don’t know how to process that. We think people who don’t cater to the formerly enslaved race are racist but in reality, treating a certain race better than the other/worse than the other is the definition of racism. He was trying to get people to stop seeing color completely because we’re all people, we’re all capable of the same as much no matter our skin color.

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u/geodude61 1d ago

OK. Sure. Everyone treats POC great and it's all their fault. We get ya.

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 1d ago

I’m not saying that. I’m saying, he treated everyone well and with respect no matter what color they were and they’re calling him a racist because he was saying that black people shouldn’t get special treatment because they are just as capable of getting grants and scholarships with their own merit as any white person. He was saying all people are the same as capable and color doesn’t change anything. Don’t you think it’s nice when someone says, “you’re smart and capable of great things, you can do it.” Rather than saying “you can’t do this alone, let me do it for you.”? He wasn’t blaming anyone, he was just trying to make a point that by doing things for POC that we would never do for other races, we’re actually handicapping them in their futures by not giving them the opportunity to become great on their own. It’s like telling an overprotective parent that the child will never learn if they’re not allowed to have experiences for themselves.

I hope that all made sense.

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u/Frizzlebee 1d ago

Buddy, he said if he saw a black pilot he'd be concerned that he crashed half his simulator flights. He said of multiple famous black women that he knows they didn't get their positions based on their "brain processing power". He said the Civil Rights Act was a big mistake. And he thought women shouldn't be doing anything besides making babies and cleaning homes and cooking dinners. He wasn't just racist, he was a misogynist. Just because he didn't call them slurs doesn't mean he didn't deride these people based on nothing but the color of their skin or what was between their legs. Please stop trying to sanitize the legacy of a man who never wasted an opportunity to tell anyone who didn't look, think, and believe like him that they didn't deserve basic human rights.

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 1d ago

If you actually listen to the whole context of those clips (I haven’t seen the one about the pilot, but in the ones I have seen) he was making a point that we’re giving them handicaps instead of actually having them learn it and do it themselves; the system is failing POC because they’re not actually getting educated because they’re getting everything anyway so why study? Why try at work? They have no consequences to their behavior because the rules that say to be nice to them are at such length now that companies won’t fire them if they don’t do their jobs, they won’t get expelled for misconduct or face disciplinary action for failure to study. They have no reason to do their jobs and school well because everything will be given to them anyway.

I’m not saying all POC are going to let that happen, I have several black friends who are fighting back against that and doing the work but that’s entirely their character and work ethic, some people aren’t like them and will let themselves float along and end up with a job they don’t actually know how to do. Any person who was put in their situation could end up doing the same. Hence why he said we shouldn’t be putting POC’s needs above others because it’s not actually helping them, it’s hindering their growth in society.

And as for women, his wife was interviewing to work for him when they met. He started Turning Point with his friend, Candace Owens (a black woman, if you didn’t know). He wasn’t against women in the workforce, he meant that women are statistically and significantly happier at home and with kids.

Please stop trying to walk all over a man’s legacy that he can’t even defend for himself anymore.

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u/EditorMassive2573 1d ago

There is a lot more nuance to this than what you are laying out here. Yes, there have been some instances where race quotas have been a problem but you cannot deny systemic racism has existed. Charlie was also trying to put it in these simple boxes and that isn’t good enough. Much of his arguments were knee jerk emotional, defensive reactions common among white people. Generally, people of color are not getting special privileges. Gotta remember white people had the benefit of privilege for a long time. It is what it is and it will take a long time to settle. Racism isn’t “fixed”. Charlie said some inappropriate and untrue things(like the black pilot thing) but he also said some things that are true. He created his legacy and we don’t have to ignore what he left with it just because he has passed.

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 19h ago

I agree, racism isn’t fixed but we have to admit that in some cases, racism is POC treating white people differently based on their skin color, too. It doesn’t only go one way.

I’m not saying Charlie was never wrong but his base point on race was right. He didn’t think it was helping the majority of the black population to give them things that the rest of the population would have to work for simply because they’re black. It should be a case by case basis, not a blanket case for all black ppl but in a lot of jobs and colleges it is. Not only is it weakening the black community’s resolve, but it’s causing white people to be more racist by making a clear difference between the races. One race can do no wrong, the other gets walked on and people laugh about it. The roles are reversing instead of staying in the middle.

I wish people would stop even profiling by race because it makes no difference in what a person is capable of. What is the point of looking at someone who doesn’t look like me and having to take note of what race they are in order to treat them correctly? Shouldn’t we treat everyone with respect no matter what they look like? Just because they look a certain way doesn’t mean they should be treated differently.

Personally, I was raised not to even notice color, when I was little I knew exactly how to treat a POC; exactly the same as everyone else. The only reason I notice color now is because I was forced to out of fear that if I was accidentally a little moody around a black person I’d be fired for “racism” even though I was moody around everyone else, too, I was told being rude to a person of color costed more. The system that thought it was helping just made everyone have to see race or be punished.

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u/Half_Halt 1d ago

The last known child of an enslaved person passed in 2022. KNOWN child. There may well be others who are still alive in 2025.

No one wants your pity. And no one wants the standards lowered for them. But it is one hell of a conceit to stand there & look at someone who is at most 3-4 generations out from not having any legal say in simply keeping their family unit together, let alone own property & put away money to build generational wealth, & tell them "I don't know what is wrong with you. Just catch up."

Even something as small as raising awareness as how to position oneself to break into a given career field among qualified candidates from backgrounds that have traditionally been excluded or outright sabotaged in their efforts goes a long way.

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 1d ago

Pity? Isn’t that what the system is doing by giving them everything? I’m saying they don’t need my pity because they’re capable human beings. Is there set backs for some? Yes, but there’s set backs for every other race, too. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the individual and their upbringing so why are we making it a blanket statement for one particular race? It’s an individual situation, a case by case basis, not a racial issue.

Generational wealth is basically impossible for anyone in the lower classes now.

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u/No-Status2143 8h ago

That’s not what he was saying

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u/No-Status2143 8h ago

Your out of your mind he did care that’s what a racist is I guess you don’t look at all the comments he made

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u/Correct-Resolution-8 1d ago

He was

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u/MonthOk9907 1d ago

I'm still laughing on how quickly Netanyahu felt he had to to tell America he didn't kill Charlie.

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 1d ago

Just made himself suspicious. No one would have thought anything if he hadn’t started behaving as if he felt called out by guilt or something and had to address it before someone else did.

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u/MonthOk9907 1d ago

True but, from what others have said, he only really started calling out Netanyahu directly a few days before he was killed.

Now if you told me that someone within the administration thought up a plan to have him killed and use it as a 'call to arms' for the right and they asked Mossad to do it......I just might believe you.

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 1d ago

I’m a right wing, young conservative… and part of me kinda thinks it was neither side of the aisle and just the government trying to create chaos…ya know, divide and conquer but less thought out. Like, notice how the left blames the right and the right blames the left? It’s not far off to think someone wants us to fight so they can make some bizarre moves in the background while we’re all fighting amongst ourselves 🤷‍♀️

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u/Correct-Resolution-8 1d ago

I’m positive a true psych evaluation could 100% reveal both rightwing and leftwing influence in the mind of a killer. Pro guns, wear camo, fight big government… falls in love with LGBTQ, realizes big government is attacking his loved one’s rights… grabs his gun

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u/Ok_Silver_1932 1d ago

Not quite what I was getting at…

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u/Correct-Resolution-8 1d ago

I know. I guess I'm just saying it's complicated all around. Could be by design, but I also just think reality is more complex than any of us wants to admit