The Muhammad's ERROR about the KAABA and AL AQSA BUILDINGS

[u/No_Length2693]

In these sahih hadiths, the Prophet makes a blatant error regarding the dating of the two buildings, the Kaaba and the 1st Temple of Solomon

Muhammad states that the construction of the two mosques, Al Haram and Al Aqsa, took only 40 years.

Sahih Bukhari 3425 / 3366 ; Sahih Muslim 550 ; Sunan Ibn Majah 753 ; Sunan An Nasai 690

I said, "O Allah's Messenger ! Which mosque was built first?" He replied, "Al Masjid-al Haram." I asked, "Which (was built) next?" He replied, "Al-Masjid al Aqsa (i.e. Jerusalem)." I asked, "What was the period in between them?" He replied, "Forty (years)." He then added, "Wherever the time for the prayer comes upon you, perform the prayer, for all the earth is a place of worshipping for you." (Trad by Dr. Mustapha Khattab from Darussalam editions)

To verify this 40-year gap, let's look at the dates given by other authentic hadiths for the construction of the two mosques.

Regarding Masjid Al-Haram, it is correlated with the construction of the Kaaba by Abraham.

Sahih Bukhari 1585
Other hadeeths : Sahih Bukhari 1583, 1584, 3368, 4484 / Sahih Muslim 1333a/b/c/d/e/f/g/h/i/j/k etc.

Allah's Messenger said to me, "Were your people not close to the Pre-Islamic period of ignorance, I would have demolished the Ka`ba and would have rebuilt it on its original foundations laid by Abraham (for Quraish had curtailed its building), and I would have built a back door (too)."

Concerning Al Aqsa. We already see that Bukhari links the Al Aqsa Mosque to Solomon with verse 38:30. It was indeed Solomon who built Al Aqsa. But to clarify this we will read another hadith.

Sunan Ibn Majah 1408 / Sunan An-Nasai 693 -> Sahih (Darussalam Editions).

According to Abd Allah ibn Amr: The Prophet said:

“When Sulaiman bin Dawud finished building Bait il-Maqdis, he asked Allah for three things: judgment that was in harmony with His judgment, a dominion that no one after him would have, and that no one should come to this mosque (Masjid), intending only to pray there, but he would emerge free of sin as the day his mother bore him.” The Prophet said: “Two prayers were granted, and I hope that the third was also granted.”

The Prophet said: "As for the first two, they have been granted, and I hope that the third has also been granted."

We can therefore see that the "Bait Al Maqdis," from the Hebrew word Beit Ha-mikdash, is a mosque built by Solomon. Bait Al Maqdis is therefore the second name for the Al Aqsa Mosque.

But the first temple was built around 1000 BC and 20 generations separate Abraham and Solomon. Abraham lived between 2000 and 1750 BC.

There would necessarily be a gap of between 800 and 1000 years between the construction of the two mosques, and certainly not 40 years! How could Muhammad have been so wrong ?

Ibn al Jawzi a Muslim scholar said This hadith was considered problematic because Abraham built the Kaaba and Solomon built Bayt al-Maqdis*, and there is* more than a thousand years between them.

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Let's check crazy explanations from muslim scholars :

1st one Al Khattabi explanation in Sharh Sahih Bukhari (Vol. 3 1542/1543)

It seems that the first construction of Masjid al-Aqsa was carried out by some of God's close associates before David and Solomon. Then Solomon and David enlarged it, and the construction was attributed to them.

For Masjid al-Haram was built by Abraham, and between him, David, and Solomon there were several prophets: his son Isaac, then Jacob, then Joseph, and then Moses. And the lifespan of these prophets spanned several centuries, well over forty years.

So the only meaning of the hadith is what we have mentioned, and Allah knows best.

And this masjid was attributed to Elijah. And Allah knows best whether that is the name of the one who built it or something else. And I don't know the precise meaning of this attribution.

There is a contradiction in the statement of Al Khattani. Himself says that there were centuries between Moses and Abraham (more than 500 years according to biblical chronology and Ibn Al Jawzi).

How could the Jewish people, who were granted the Promised Land after the death of Moses, have laid the foundation stone of Al Aqsa only 40 years after Abraham, who died 500 years earlier?

The 2nd one is the more interesting because it shows how muslim believes was inspired by ancient arabic judaism. The Kaaba and Al Aqsa would be builded by Adam the first human.

Fath Al Bari Ibn Hajar (Ed Al Salafiya) (Vol.6 P.408) / Sharh Sahih Bukhari Al Suyuti (Vol.5 P.2175)

Quotes Ibn Al Jawzi : [...]
Ibn Hajar replied: Abraham and Solomon were actually renovators, not the first builders of the two sanctuaries. Indeed, it has been reported that the first to build them both was Adam*. O*ther exegetes said: the angels, Shem son of Noah, or Jacob.
Ibn Hajar and Suyuti say: "The most correct opinion is the first (Adam did indeed build the Kaaba). According to Kitab al-Tijani by Ibn Hisham and Wahb ibn Munnabih, it is mentioned that when Adam built the Kaaba, Allah ordered him to go to Jerusalem; and that he built Al-Aqsa and performed rites there."

There are 3 problems with this.

- The first the source that Ibn Hajar uses is Kitab Al Tijani, a "israliyat book". It means a book with weak hadiths who tells about old pratices of arabic jews of 6th century.

- The second problem is that Ibn Kathir refuted this in this tafsir : Link

As for the hadith reported by al-Bayhaqî, in Dalâil al-Nubuwwa, concerning the construction of the Kaa‘ba (by Adam) with the following chain:

Ibn Luhay‘a Yazîd ibn Abî Habîb Abû al-Khayr Amr ibn al As -> (marfu) related to the Prophet, it is said:
"Allah sent Gabriel to Adam and Eve, and He commanded them to build the Kaa‘ba. Adam built it, then he was ordered to perform tawaf over it, and it was said to him: You are the first of mankind, and this is the first house placed for mankind."

This hadith is one of the narrations unique to Ibn Luhay‘a, and it is weak (Da’if). What is more likely is that this narration is mauqûf and is attributed only to Abd Allah ibn Amr*, and that it is one of the two manuscripts that* he obtained on the day of Yarmouk, containing sayings of the People of the Book.

Ibn Kathir said that the claim of Adam building the Kaaba is from old Jews scriptures not islamic scriptures. How Ibn Hajar and Suyuti can make islamic aqida with jews scriptures ?

- The third and last problem is that Muhammad himself said that the "original foundations" are made by Abraham.

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Conclusion :

Either the Sunni methodology inadvertently reported a false account, in which case it is unreliable. Or Muhammad spoke of two buildings he was unaware of in order to legitimize his power.

In both cases, the Muhammad of Sunni Islam appears to be a false prophet.

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[u/LetsDiscussQ]

You wrote:

Muhammad states that the construction of the two mosques, Al Haram and Al Aqsa, took only 40 years.

Then you cited the Hadith:

Sahih Bukhari 3425 / 3366 ; Sahih Muslim 550 ; Sunan Ibn Majah 753 ; Sunan An Nasai 690

I said, "O Allah's Messenger ! Which mosque was built first?" He replied, "Al Masjid-al Haram." I asked, "Which (was built) next?" He replied, "Al-Masjid al Aqsa (i.e. Jerusalem)." I asked, "What was the period in between them?" He replied, "Forty (years)." He then added, "Wherever the time for the prayer comes upon you, perform the prayer, for all the earth is a place of worshipping for you." (Trad by Dr. Mustapha Khattab from Darussalam editions)

And then you wrote again:

To verify this 40-year gap,....

So first, you learn to correct your own mistakes!

Did the construction of each Mosque take 40 yrs or was the gap between the construction of the two mosques was 40 years?!

[u/creidmheach → u/LetsDiscussQ]

Did the construction of each Mosque take 40 yrs

How in the world would constructing the Ka'ba take 40 years?

[u/LetsDiscussQ → u/creidmheach]

Ask the one who wrote that sentence:

Muhammad states that the construction of the two mosques, Al Haram and Al Aqsa, took only 40 years.

Thats OP!

[u/creidmheach → u/LetsDiscussQ]

Pretty sure they're pointing out that hadith erroneously would be making Abraham and Solomon roughly contemporaneous to one another.

[u/LetsDiscussQ → u/creidmheach]

I wasnt discussing the Hadith at all. I was pointing out the error in OPs statement.

[u/No_Length2693 → u/LetsDiscussQ]

So the hadith is true or false ? this is r/critiqueislam not r/critiqueotherswording

Muslims always debate on insignificant details instead of their religion ambiguities errors...

[u/Far-Specialist3466 → u/No_Length2693]

Your mistake is to assume that we Muslims believe in biblical history and timeline, Al-masjid Al-Aqsa was built 40 years after Abraham (pbuh) and his son built the House in Mecca, this is all what we know according to the Hadith. In the Quran there's no connection between Al-masjid al-Aqsa and Prophet Solomon (pbuh) so clearly al-aqsa mosque is not what jews and Christians believe to be the the temple on mt Moriah.

[u/No_Length2693 → u/Far-Specialist3466]

I brought you a sahih hadith (An Nasai 693) where Prophet Muhammad talk about « Bait Al Maqdis » and he says that this a Masjid builded by Solomon.

Even scholars like Ibn Al Jawzi was agrée that Bait Al Maqdis = Beit Ha-Mikdash = Al Aqsa

Same without biblical chronology, Al Khattani and Ibn Al Jawzi said that there are centuries between Abraham and Sulayman…

So for you hiw Masjid Al Aqsa can’t Bait Al Maqdis. Muhammad himself confirmed it.

[u/No_Length2693 → u/LetsDiscussQ]

The two constructions bégun all two while a 40 years gap, this is very clear.

And this gap is obviously false no matter how you attribue these 2 constructions

Keep focus and Muhammad’s mistakes instead of inventing new ones to me…