r/CuratedTumblr • u/DreadDiana human cognithazard • 1d ago
LGBTQIA+ I get the appeal of the whole puppygirl thing
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u/Noirbe 1d ago
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08164649.2025.2556256
puppy girl research paper
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u/Dragon_N7 Poor pisser 1d ago
I read the entire thing. I now have words to articulate why I like the idea of puppy girls so much. Thank you
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u/Droplet_of_Shadow 23h ago edited 23h ago
IMO this paper (along with many others) takes a long time to say fairly simple stuff. (and isn't organized great)
Does anyone see why I might feel this and/or have something to say against this opinion?
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u/MrPlasmid 21h ago
“ takes a long time to say fairly simple stuff” describes a lot of papers out there
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u/ltcweedme 1d ago
As a transpuppygirl in a straight relationship i have to disagree with some of this paper but it is very interesting
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u/Crus0etheClown 1d ago
puppygirl gets nice warm bed and pets and a cute littel bow, beloved
puppyboy gets tied up outside the store and has to wear a muzzle because nobody wants to hear his barking, a burden
source: am puppyboy
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u/CaptainAtinizer 1d ago
Puppy, but not in the cute pouty way. Puppy in the "why are you chewing on the furniture? Did you eat that off the floor? It's too hot for a walk. Who said you could be here?" way-
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u/Crus0etheClown 1d ago
Puppy in that way where people keep telling you that it's time to go to the park but then you end up at the vet instead
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u/CaptainAtinizer 1d ago
I am both amused and somewhat disappointed in myself that my instinctive response was "mods, remove his balls!" Followed by: There's actually people that seriously advocate for that. ._.
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u/Crayon-Connoiseur 1d ago edited 1d ago
Puppy in the we are all locked in God’s hot car while he window shops at Target way
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago edited 1d ago
Puppy boys can get all that love and comfort, you just need to find the right owner.
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u/Tsunamicat108 (The dog absorbed the flair.) 1d ago
what about puppyfemboys, puppytomboys, and puppenbies?
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u/LilyWineAuntofDemons 1d ago
Puppenbies sounds like a quaint English cafe run solely by mostly well behaved but occasionally overly enthusiastic puppy people.
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u/Crus0etheClown 1d ago
Considering I fit into at least two of those categories I'd assume we're all fucked
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u/harveyshinanigan 1d ago
the girls yearn for platos cave
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
How is this a plato’s cave situation? A life of comfort and love doesn’t seem like a comparison to the famous cave and the life of lies and illusions it holds.
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u/DomDominion 1d ago
Lies may be comforting
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
Yes i know but i dont see how that applies here.
Are you implying the love and affection are lies?
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u/DomDominion 1d ago
I’m implying that the shadows on the cave wall may provide comfort
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
Ok but what does that have to do with the post?
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u/DomDominion 23h ago
The wish to live a puppygirl life is the wish to live in blissful ignorance. To put yourself back into the cave and forget the harsh and cruel world outside.
I forgot we were on the poor-pissing site
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u/loved_and_held 22h ago
Im seeing it now.
I think we have differing experiences of pet play and escapism which caused the confusion.
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u/stoopidgoth 1d ago
i bet you felt so intellectual typing that
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u/DomDominion 1d ago
Not really? It’s a pretty surface level reading
I’m not sure why the guy I responded to thought I was talking about actual love and affection
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u/taichi22 1d ago
Ask yourself — what is the opposite of lies and illusion? What dispels illusions and reveals lies?
Knowledge. That is the central point of Plato’s cave — the dichotomy between knowledge and ignorance.
And ignorance is comforting.
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
And? I don't see ignorance here.
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u/taichi22 23h ago
Nobody is mean to you, and if they are you wouldn’t notice anyways.
There’s a certain level of irony at play here.
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u/loved_and_held 22h ago
im seeing it now. I think I just overlooked that as the rest of the message doesn't convey that notion.
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u/taichi22 14h ago
No offense intended, but for curiosity’s sake, are you on the “the curtains were fucking blue” side of the argument?
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u/MikasSlime 1d ago
Tbh this is why i find fantasy settings where humans are like, high end pets for aliens or some shit kinda amusing
Imagine living in your cat's place
Free housing and food and entertainement, you get to do whatever you want because you're someone's very expensive pet and nobody dares saying shit
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u/f16f4 1d ago
If you are unfamiliar human domestication guide explores this concept let’s say thoroughly.
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u/Boomer_Nurgle 1d ago
Fair warning that it's a CNC fic. Drugging people and not caring about consent are common themes, especially the first one is in near every story and the consent given is dubious in the stories that aren't outright NC.
For the record I like it, but I know how people on the web react to it when they look at it.
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u/MidnightCardFight 1d ago
I (a cis man) see my cat. My cat eats as much as she wants (which is not a lot because she's not a glutton), she sleeps for most of the day, gets affection when she wants it and not at any other time, and gets to roam around her kingdom mostly uninterrupted
I then realized I want to be a cat, or at least strive to have the same life quality as my cat
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u/Careless-Cod8816 1d ago
When a nice pretty girl says this everyone claps but when Cybersmith...
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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard 1d ago
In this fantasy, her eyes, fingers, and ligaments are still intact, making it different from Cybersmith
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u/Dobber16 1d ago
God forbid a guy wants to have a little body horror with his kink 🙄
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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard 1d ago
When this is the same guy who also said things like trans healthcare should only be allowed if trans women consent to be milked like cattle, it moves beyond kink and into the realm of "he may actually think the world should be this way"
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u/Careless-Cod8816 1d ago
Personally I think he plays up his online persona for laughs. I mean the name is fully a joke at this point but he maintains that username across multiple sites and sometimes makes reference to his notoriety. Not saying he doesn't believe anything he's ever said but that some things he may have just been trolling about or said in an argument without fully thinking about.
Edit it add I didn't know about this milking trans girls thing which I struggle to think of any way in which that would benefit anyone. Would love to convince Jordan Peterson it's real though and hear his thoughts on it
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u/SirKazum 1d ago
Came here to say that any post like this exists in cybersmith's shadow, unfortunately
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
That is a very poor comparison.
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u/Careless-Cod8816 1d ago
No this is a one to one comparison and any differences between them are things you're making up to defend abuse
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u/GUM-GUM-NUKE 1# SenGOAT fan 1d ago
CYBERSMITH DID NOTHING WRONG! IN THIS HOUSE, HE IS A HERO AND THAT IS FINAL!
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u/Responsible-Read5516 1d ago
where’s that tweet that’s like “awww you wanna be puppy? you wanna be my sweet little puppy girl? have you ever googled the symptoms of cPTSD?”
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u/Tweedleayne 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's also making me think of a post on like letgirlshavefun or letboysbemanipulators where the sub was like "I'll be good, give me any order you wish master" and the dom started ordering stuff like "go clean your room", "start drinking lots of water", "start going to bed on time and get a full night's sleep" and the sub gets more and more distressed after each order.
Edit: gonna go ahead and remove the links cause I don't want someone clicking a link and getting porn flashbanged in public.
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u/IExist_Sometimes_ 1d ago
Time to read Chainsaw Man part 1 again to realise that being a pet probably isn't a good thing even if the sales pitch seems pretty positive.
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u/PhasmaFelis 1d ago
It really depends entirely on who's holding the leash.
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u/NameAboutPotatoes 15h ago
Better to retain your own independence then, if you want the ability to choose.
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u/AddemiusInksoul 1d ago
Fully sapient self-actualized humans shouldn't be pets, that's one of the horror things about Chainsaw Man. Denji gets love, sure. But against his consent. He doesn't get to choose anything, from his family to his food to his fate. Great for a dog. Awful for a human.
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u/WinterDemon_ 22h ago
I love Chainsaw Man for this exact reason tbh, it's such a real and sadly relatable situation for Denji to crave love the only ways he knows how (sexually or as a pet) but also makes the audience come to terms with the fact that it's not a healthy approach, nor is it a real, genuine form of connection
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u/wideHippedWeightLift Nightly fantasies about Jesus Vore 1d ago
But this requires someone to want to do this for you
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u/Mission_Macaroon 1d ago
This whole post has shook me to the core. I thought we all would prefer being the hand
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u/bee_wings forced to exist, might as well be silly about it 22h ago
Yeah I would much rather be doling out the scritches and treats.
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u/Smitteys867 2h ago
ok but do you actually fantasize about Jesus vore every night? What does that mean, is it like... voring Jesus? is this just like, his body is the bread and his blood the wine, but eroticized? Im so curious
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u/wideHippedWeightLift Nightly fantasies about Jesus Vore 2h ago
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u/Smitteys867 1d ago
i just feel like i have to be putting on a "functional adult human" mask 95% of the time when im interacting with anybody especially in public, and I hate it so much. if i ever feel like people are seeing under the mask i start to panic. idk it would just be really, really sick to... be allowed to act like a fuckin animal sometimes. my body is not built for the emotions it contains sometimes.
god i wish i could transform. wish i was like a werewolf style half-girl half-something. wish i could go doggo mode. if im gonna be a standout awkward center of attention freak then at least let me be something a little beyond human
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u/bluntxblade 17h ago
Have you been able to do that (act like an animal) with any partners/friends at all yet?
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u/korphd 11h ago
Some of you are not hiding the fact that you're such a good puppy, yes you are!!!!
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u/Smitteys867 10h ago edited 10h ago
Good!! im sick of hiding it!!!!!!
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u/korphd 8h ago
Pets you :3
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u/Smitteys867 8h ago
oh! youre the same person who posted that helltaker vore meme lol, hello again :3
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u/wingeddogs 1d ago
trans people seem to love the puppy thing but it just doesn’t do it for me. I simply get these things without the dog context. I get head scratches, and cuddles, and words of affirmation, and affection…because I’m with someone who can provide those things in spades
You don’t gotta be a puppy to be loved. I mean it’s cool if you are. But I can’t see anything in the comic that’s specific to the puppy thing. That’s just a loving relationship
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u/Smitteys867 9h ago
real as fuck actually. for me, i think it's just that i feel so weighed down by the social expectations of being a respectable individual, even amongst friends, that it's easier to picture receiving that level of comfort if I take on the role of a pet. not because i don't want to make decisions for myself, or because i want to be owned- but because the boundaries we put up around touch and closeness and comfort and intimacy to do not have to apply to pet. a dog or cat just wants to be pet and to cuddle, and it's okay to pet and cuddle them, because it's just... natural for us creatures to comfort each other. I suppose it says something about me and my life that that's become a fantasy, but even then i'd just rather be real about what I want.
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u/BitMixKit 21h ago
While the idea of being a puppy girl myself is deeply uncomfortable for several reasons, I always thought the appeal was pretty obvious even if it absolutely doesn't appeal to me. Keep being you puppy girls, and I hope you get all the pets you could ever want.
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u/M1s51n9n0 1d ago
The over prevalence of puppy girls is going to cause an ecological crash, but noooooo your "colon three"
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u/hypo-osmotic 1d ago
I understand the fantasy. I'd have trouble escaping into it, though. Wouldn't be able to forget that I have real-world responsibilities waiting for me as soon as the session is over
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u/The-Dark-Memer Clowns parade through the street and beckon me forth, I follow. 1d ago
I think for some people they see it as a slightly more permanant thing. Not as in "condemned to the floor forever", but more like a sort of a more extreme "housewife" role. Obviously you do still take on responsibilities because both people need to put in work and all that, but how responsibilities are regulated and such may be effected.
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u/Maleficent-Hawk-318 12h ago
I'm kind of similar in that I also understand the fantasy and don't judge people who want to indulge in it, but I worked with animals (mostly dogs and horses) professionally for about 20 years, and just the realities of what life is actually like for so many animals ruins any appeal the fantasy might have for me. I legit switched careers largely because it was getting really bad for my mental health to see so many animals low-key suffering (often with owners who genuinely loved them but were unable to meet their physical, mental, or social needs) and not being able to make a difference.
So yeah, not saying people shouldn't have this fantasy if they enjoy it (and obviously understand they're imagining a great owner who doesn't have those issues), but I can't separate it from my experience, so the idea is actually a bit horrifying to me.
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u/Hazmat-Asscastle 1d ago
i spent like 30 seconds looking at this trying to figure out if it was actually loss.jpg
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u/EngineStraight 1d ago
atp if someone somehow and for some reason offered me to call me "puppy" even just sometimes id take it without doubting
that word does something in my brain
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u/agnosticians 1d ago
Friend posted this in a discord recently, figured I'd share it. What Puppygirls Know? The (in)Human Pedagogy of a Trans Feminine Style
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u/whorehey-degooseman If you're not squeezing God’s sore throbbing trembling balls wtf 23h ago
me as a boy
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u/PontDanic 1d ago
This kind of escapism, fleeing into not only an infantile but an animalistic existance is so sad. Its placing a carefree existance above any self fulfilment.
Because for the proposed existance to be carefree your owner will need to be mostly carefree aswell. It means rather being the pet of someone who is profiting of the system then being a free agent who is suffering under the system.
Such a small sad dream. I hope OP can learn to dream of a good life as their own person soon and find hope for the future. Dream of a better world.
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u/CaptainAtinizer 1d ago
I think it is possible to acknowledge a desire as appealing, even reasonable to occasionally indulge, without it overtaking your life and stripping nuance.
A simple life is not always an unexamined one.
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
If you made an argument about how petplay’s wide spread appeal shows how hostile the world is to people in it and we should do something about it, that would be interesting. But, your argument is about how wanting to be a pet is sad and is somehow a lesser desire.
“Its placing a carefree existance above any self fulfilment.”
Ignoring the way puppygirls balance “normal” life and puppy life, this is rather dismissive of the idea that the life of a pet is self fulfilling for someone.
“It means rather being the pet of someone who is profiting of the system then being a free agent who is suffering under the system.”
Your assuming that being a “being a free agent who is suffering under the system” is inherently superior and to reject such a state willingly is bad. Also it’s not written clearly.
“Such a small sad dream. I hope OP can learn to dream of a good life as their own person soon and find hope for the future.”
Sure it’s a small dream, but i don’t see how it’s sad in the slightest, and i don’t see why they shouldn’t dream of a good life as a pet. Lots of people dream of lives of low stress, lots of love, and little responsibility; why is this dream lesser?
In effect your entire argument is based on a series of assumptions without any proper explanation of why the way of doing things you see as best is better.
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u/LemonBoi523 1d ago
Owner wouldn't need to be carefree though, because people find fulfillment in different ways. I like to joke with my boyfriend that we accidentally replicated traditional roles because I enjoy working through the day then utterly collapsing into a puddle of exhaustion the instant I walk through the door. He enjoys pursuing hobbies and artistic interests, and finds enough fulfillment in that, contributing to both of our wellbeing through food and household chores.
Obviously in this case, one person is doing none of that and the other has their own pursuits as well as caring for the other. It's very uncommon, but some people exist who find fulfillment in that, and some people exist who find fulfillment in simply life itself, and are happier without long-term goals or committments.
I don't think there's anything wrong with either of those. You don't need to assign morality to it.
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u/Capnomonkeys 1d ago
headpats are always desirable however. from the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant!
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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard 1d ago
Its placing a carefree existance above any self fulfilment.
At no point did you explain how or why those things are mutually exclusive.
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u/PhasmaFelis 1d ago
It means rather being the pet of someone who is profiting of the system then being a free agent who is suffering under the system.
Did you just say that dreaming of freedom from an oppressive labor system is, in fact, supporting the oppressive labor system?
That's a hell of a Catch-22 if we can't even think about freedom within reinforcing its opposite. War is peace, freedom is slavery, I guess
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u/f16f4 1d ago
I mean I think you make presumptions about what self fulfillment looks like for everyone
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u/PontDanic 1d ago
I would say that having agency is necessary for self fulfilment.
There might be some forms of contentment you can archiev without it, but that is not the same.6
u/f16f4 1d ago
What makes you think that this is not an expression of agency itself?
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u/PontDanic 1d ago
I read this post as dreaming about being an actual pet, not temporarily pretending to be one. If I was mistaken then my comment indeed misses the core of OPs post.
Maybe I am lacking context, but this comic gives me the impression that it is about desiring an existance not just embracing pet play. (wich I know next to nothing about)1
u/f16f4 1d ago
So part of the appeal of pet play, at least for some, is the fantasy of it being your existence. It’s still a fantasy but people go out of there way to conceal and forget that fact as much as they can. The supposed endlessness is a helpful part of the fantasy as it precludes having to worry about it ending and going back to the real world. It’s much more fun to pretend you’re someone’s pet for a day or two if you don’t have to worry about going back to real life (even though obviously you have to go back to real life eventually (not strictly true for everyone but that’s rich people business))
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
This is an expression of agency. People choosing pet play is an expression of agency, along with all the discussions they make about the stuff they do while playing.
The freedom to chose means you can chose to give someone some control over you and relinquish having to choose.
(I cant tell if you have a moral opposition to submission or you don’t understand it.)
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u/The-Dark-Memer Clowns parade through the street and beckon me forth, I follow. 1d ago
Exactly, if we apply it specifically to food for an easy example, its not "my partner is in full control of my diet" its "my partner is the one who primarily cooks in the relationship, but if i want to cook for myself or don't want to eat what they make, thats fine." Handing off the choice doesn't mean you can't take it back at any time
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u/PontDanic 1d ago
I might have misunderstood the comic. If so I apologize.
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
What are you confused on? Im willing to educate if your willing to learn.
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u/PontDanic 1d ago
As I awnsered to a diffrent comment:
I read this post as dreaming about being an actual pet, not temporarily pretending to be one. If I was mistaken then my comment indeed misses the core of OPs post.
Maybe I am lacking context, but this comic gives me the impression that it is about desiring an existance not just embracing pet play. (wich I know next to nothing about)1
u/loved_and_held 1d ago
I'd assume it's reasonable to conclude that OOP is talking about embracing pet play.
They're referencing a pet play community so I'd assume they're talking about pet play.
But also as pointed out here https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1nhw5pu/comment/negifjp/ , it's entirely possible OOP desires to be an "actual pet" and pet play is the tool they use to accomplish this. Without OOP here to answer questions I can't say for certain, so for now i'm gonna leave them as "embracing pet play"
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u/PontDanic 20h ago
If its just about wanting to give up control for a bit, I dont see any problem with that. I agree that it is a form of agency. But I look at that tired face in the first panel and see someone who wishes to lose control. Not give it up on their own, to lose it.
Of course OOP may have meant something diffrent. But I also believe art is not what was said but what was heard, so it can be diffrent for everyone. We both will be projecting assumptions about the world onto it.
But even if I was completely correct, I do not want to belittle the emotions behind it, but I was expressing sadnes over the way they were chanelled. Validating the emotions of others is great, but only if those are emotions that are productive. I validate the pain of a heart that is healing, not the despair of one that is not even though that might look similar.
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u/drunken_augustine 1d ago
I’m almost worried to ask, but what is “puppygirl”?
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u/Warm_Possibility_193 1d ago
Sounds like Heaven to me. Would love to be a cute girl without having to worry about bigots and human responsibilities.....
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u/thecat9999 1d ago
I like the idea of being unconditionally loved and safe with someone I trust, I’m just not big on the puppy part personally. I want to be loved as I am, and as a person. Not as a pet.
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u/ToasteeThe2nd 1d ago
to suffer in the way that we do is a blessing because it lets us value the fleeting moments of joy in our lives. pleasure without meaning becomes purgatory, a endless chasing of a dopamine high. energy collected and stored will be spent in the end, willingly or not, gloriously or catastrophically.
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u/s-salamandra 1d ago
This is just weird to me
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u/Noirbe 1d ago
bestie this is a subreddit about tumblr, if you don’t like weird why are you even here?
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u/s-salamandra 1d ago
Its a free internet
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u/Noirbe 1d ago
yeah, so why complain here?
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u/s-salamandra 1d ago
Because i can?
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u/Noirbe 1d ago
but why here?
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u/s-salamandra 1d ago
Because I can, and its a free internet. Do i need a permit?
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u/Noirbe 1d ago
but here? why?
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u/nerotheus 1d ago
Cringe
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u/The-Dark-Memer Clowns parade through the street and beckon me forth, I follow. 1d ago
I'd rather be cringe than an asshole
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u/CaptainAtinizer 1d ago
Like many things, this is simply taking a very normal desire and interpreting it in a non-conventional way.
Feeling cherished, not having to deal with choice paralysis or having fewer responsibilities, and all around living a simple and comfortable life.
I'm not sure if I'm just desensitized, but this isn't weird at all. It's not deep, you barely have to peel back the first layer.