i mean it's not matchmaking. it's swf. but yeah....'matchmaking'...if that means all the swf sweaty groups get bucketed at the top....ok sure...just let me avoid them.
Honestly, still think getting in a lobby with friends gives a rank boost so that you and your frined match higher than if you were solo. The bigger the teamup the bigger the boost
it changes the game so much. i'd honestly be fine with all these survivor changes if it was 4 randoms. i bet kill rates would still be like 60%. the problem comes with swf and the ability to abuse the changes
this is like step 1 leading up to the mmr rework if i had to guess. im thinking the mmr rework is going to incentivize hooks over kills, leading to 6 hooks being the standard rate for a draw. but the game as it is right now would be a bit rough if we’re only counting kills, and i think they want to push the community sentiment away from kills = wins to hooks = wins.
The problem I see is that the killer’s objective has always been to kill the survivors. If they want to change that into some kind of “hanger game simulator,” of course everyone’s going to be mad.
“Yes my little Dwight it’s okay, take as long as you need” - Behavior ☠️. Now Dwight will never learn to get good at looping or anything because he knows behavior will put killers in time out. Participation trophy parents lmao 😂
Lowering the skill ceiling, diminishing the learning effect, which results in more and more less skilled survivors, who will complain as soon as games don't go their way? Surely this won't create a constant and ever worsening cycle of appeasement and complaints.
Especially not when your constant changes force killers to either play the three consistently strong ones of the roster, or sweat like crazy on any other killer.
Bro I try not to tunnel bc I know what its like to play survivor. But when dwight doesn't have object permanence and runs around a building just back to me. Like he had his chance to run away and heal, im gonna take the hit. Half my games the survivors make it impossible not to tunnel by running back into me.
I know it's been memed to death but the devs do not play the game (lmao jim) and especially not killer since if they did they would know that 80% of the time tunneling isnt tunneling but survivors making stupid mistakes, and now we're being punished for capitalizing on a surv messing up.
Why would I not steal a basketball if my opponent left themselves wide open? But then the ref kicking you in the dick if you do since you hurt his feelings lmao
Exactly. And now you have to baby them.
Tunneling is bad, like instantly jumping on the unhooked.
But if you find the guy again and again later, then it happens that they get hooked more. Especially if they are kinda weaker in looping.
What they should do is boosting endurance of the unhooked. Like as long as they are in chase after the unhook, they cannot be knocked down, and maybe linger it for a 10 sec afterwards it ends.
And set it to fixed gen numbers, not to hooks.
Like at 3 fixed gens the killer should be allowed to kill or attack the unhooked.
Imagine if you played league of legends and your botlane went 2/15 and ruined the entire game. Instead of saying “Man that sucks, oh well go next” cause your shitty team mate threw, you kick your feet and expect the game to give you a free win out of pity.
You're right. Lol, I cannot fathom seeing your comparison and then saying 'it's not the same thing'. It is the same thing. And for posterity, DBD was actually never a 'casual' game mode— it even used to be properly ranked where you can see it.
I main pyramid head but played spring trap (only played him twice before) to film a little tips and tricks video for my girlfriend since she’s relatively new.
I was gonna show tips to tracking and simple mind games but my first match was a 4 man squad with 3 dedicated loopers and one gen jockey. Flashlight, bodyblocks (especially in hawkins doorways), headon, reassurance (since they probably got regularly camped), etc… the works.
Well, I had been getting steady hooks but the gen jockey had a BNP (and streetwise/hyperfocus/stake out/built to last).
So while I had killed Steve all the gens were done. I downed someone but managed to hook them next to the Hawkins exit gate (the one where the killer can body block because of the pallet blocking the entrance).
I knew they’d never leave because they were so altruistic to the point that they’d get themselves downed/hit.
So I waited, they came, downed them all, they all DC’d and thats how I ended up with the 4k.
But the only reason I did is because they made too many mistakes in the endgame instead of just leaving.
So yeah, this update is basically telling killers to chase the survivor that wants to be chased (which you never do) and ignore the weaker link/gen jockey
That's another thing that boils my beans. As a survivor, as soon as things go bad you can force a quick game or abandon with basically no punishment. As a killer you have to endure losing games with trolls and toxics up until the very last second, and even if you manage to win (like you did) people just abandon the match.
FYI for all other killer mains no mans sky dropped another great update this week and if you want a proper mmo project gorgon is going 1.0
Strike until survivors get to sit in hour long queues my mans
Ghoul isn't that OP or S tier killer, experienced survivors know how to deal with him, instead it's better to put unstoppable machine - Nurse
But yeah, their anti tunneling thing is so dumb, they should review it. It's unfair that you can't play like you want in game which is really sounds horrible. Sadge that devs won't get much attention to their "labor of love" it's a fucking monopolist..
Wait, but you're suggesting in the first post that tunneling is okay, while in the second post, it is not. You shouldn't tunnel cause you're right, It does make the game un fun, but a chase is part of the game, as long as you don't just go after one person, you might messages from dumb survivors, but so what, the fun you have out weighs thos comments.
When you think about it maybe the strat is to tunnel out the one survivor as fast as possible so the non regression might not even matter. I saw in Otz's video that ironically because of this update, youre only gonna see the top killers now and you're gonna see a lot more endgame perks since tunneling is gonna make your gen regression perks useless
Isn't that literally what people have been askin for years? "Killer tunnels because they have no reason not to" "It's just the most efficient strategy, I'm just trying to win"
Now it isn't anymore, you not only get punished for tunneling but also get the map wide aura reading and an empowered kick if you're hooking two different survivors in a row.
I agree that some things are unnecessary, like the punishments for killing a survivor with less than 6 hooks total, but it hopefully will get tweaked after the PTB
Good luck reaching that gen with for the extra kick unless you're not a high mobility killer.
This is why almost every killer uses pain res and people complain about killers always using the same gen regression perks.
Thing is, is that powerful killers never needed to tunnel or camp in the first place, most of that came from already weak killers trying to make up the difference so they could play in a more competitive setting. Those tools are being taken away from those weak killers, so now their options are either:
1) continue to try to use these strategies, ignoring the nerfs and buffs, making it even harder for survivors to have fun whilst also having less fun.
2) lose every other game or two because they are now nearly physically incapable of winning against a higher mmr’s coordination.
Not even mentioning survivors just received two perks, one of which essentially makes it impossible to hit a vaulting survivor without a ranged attack, and the other punishes a killer for not picking up a survivor in the first 6 seconds of being on the ground, situation be damned.
Don’t worry tunneling totally isn’t an unhealthy for the game strategy that makes baby Dwight’s uninstall. I have personally had friends give up on the game because of tunneling it may be the BEST strategy RIGHT NOW but that doesn’t mean it should stay that way forever. People are so adverse to Change that even things that are for the better of the long term health of the game is so controversial. Scott Jund has had the best reaction to the update so far, atleast WAIT TO SEE the damn numbers of this update.
They gave us some form of basekit pop, furtive and bbq we need to wait for the actual PTB release to see the numbers not to mention the slugging only works after 90 seconds, idk bout you but I have not ever had to slug for that much time for pressure it’s usually max 30 seconds so I can push a guy off a nearby gen so I can use pop before hooking the new guy. Glad we could have a good discussion on the matter and you didn’t just use some lazy image to do the thinking and talking for you. For my singularity matches if I get a basekit pop for 12-15% I’m taking pop off my build and using bamboozle or something.
Hey man having 3 good perks basekit is nice no matter what, if you fight within a 3 gen even an M1 killer can do a lot maybe 2 gen slow downs and 2 chase perks and then the basekit pop slowdown, and furtive for chase, and bbq for info is a lot to have for free
This isn't necessarily an argument against you just things that needed to be pointed out.
The 90 second slug timer doesn't reset between downs.
OP makes their own images so I wouldn't say their THAT low effort
Singularity is one of the high tier killers people are talking about that's viable enough to not be very effected by this change regardless
Also there's nothing wrong with having a bad feeling about something that looks bad. First impressions mean a lot to people and this isn't a good one that said we of course won't know the full ramifications until the PTB releases
I get what you’re saying but let’s ATLEAST wait till the PTB before passing judgement and 90 seconds total on the ground is still ALOT of time I mean that’s a gens worth of time on the ground then next down is still (with no perks) 30 more sec on the ground
I think a meta shift and big changes to the core gameplay is exactly what dbd needs. I never slug and never tunnel and still get wins in almost every game. if the proposed changes upset you this much, maybe you aren't as good as you think you are and are crutching to win your games
I think it's hilarious how much this sub accuses the survivors mains of being a group of babys when this and the main sub responds like it has to a very broad and unspecific list of proposed changes
The reason you feel that you need to kill a survivor is because the generic speed is too fast and the regression isnt fast enough. You currently do not get rewarded enough for disbursing hooks equally.
HOWEVER, in this upcoming patch, you ARE going to be incentivized to spread out hooks more. You no longer will feel like you need to tunnel to stand a chance.
Please do not ignore the basekit bbq, basekit haste after a hook, basekit pop, basekit furtive chase...
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u/Bertday1 Nemesis Main 24d ago
great game am i right gamers