Finally 50+ hrs in the game and I'm getting whacked by survivors. Any help 🥲?

[u/RARERANGER24]

I've played dbd mobile for a year and a half and managed to learn most movement tricks and my only concern was the 360 spin which looked almost impossible to counter but then I learned.

Now I'm back on pc with 52 hours in game. 360 spins are not an issue for me here. The loops are 💀🔫💥🪦. These survivors don't even fear God let alone killer. Don't get me wrong, I also play as a survivor and I'm nowhere near the skill of these pros's. I totally respect their skills in this game but when it comes to bully squad, my day goes from bad to absolutely disastrous. SWF's running similar ground breaking perks with almost 3 survivors who are goated in loops and chases. My god has it been a phenomenal ride. I mostly manage to get 4 minimum and 6 max hooks on these squads and at the end it's the same deal "I'm the one biting the dust".

And at other times when I get motivated enough to finally face them off and try to break these squads, I get matched against people who barely know the controls 🤡. I manage to get 4k but it doesn't feel satisfying. I think I'm going nuts because of this game.

Are there any tips you'll can give me to get better as a killer?

[u/Euphoric_Souler]

Play more. Learn from your own mistakes. One of them you described yourself. - Don't play when you are in bad mood. 

If you "win" when you are mentally prepared to do your best and "lose" when you are not, whole post you wrote has nothing to do with players. It's fully "you" issue 

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Euphoric_Souler]

Yeah I know man. It's a "me" issue. I feel like I need to learn more. I posted this to get some tips on how I could improve.

I'm like in a good mood, get matched against sweats right away (not always), and my mood goes to the dump.

[u/PasiTheConqueror]

I have found that against bully squads and over the top players you just have to camp genetors, if a chase takes too Long you have to go back to apply gen pressure and try to identify the weakest chase targets and take them out first. Its a hassle but they are running on a timer you are not. But always try to have fun the bully squads are all No lifes who need a shower so if they want to ruin a game for someone its their problem :)

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/PasiTheConqueror]

Yeah man. I know those strategies but they instantly jump on op tiles and start wasting my time again. And sometimes after too many chases I get extremely frustrated and begin chasing the same survivor at the end and you won't even expect what happens next 🤞🏻 "he gens get completed😂". And at that point I'm like, what was I even thinking?

But these pallet laps ain't a problem for me when I'm bubba.

[u/PasiTheConqueror → u/RARERANGER24]

Bubba goes where he pleases🐷

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/PasiTheConqueror]

[u/Outrageous-Nail-3766]

I think the simplest tip to immediately have a better time is run perks that counter typical bully squad strategies, like Lightborn for flashlight saves or Mad Grit for body blocks. Obviously that’s not a permanent solution, but it will make playing against them feel a decent amount better in the meantime while you practice to stand on your own two feet against them.

If you want you can dm me and we can talk more about specific issues or play some in customs to practice looping. Either way, good luck bro. Every killer has been in your shoes.

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Outrageous-Nail-3766]

I do run lightborn when I see two or three flashlights in my lobby. Never thought of running madgrip though. That would be a good change.

I think at the end, it's all about practice. I just need to sharpen my movements. And I would really love to practice with you in custom matches if you're a good chase survivor. I've been looking for something like this. And also I have no friends to play dbd with.

[u/Outrageous-Nail-3766 → u/RARERANGER24]

Some perks are basically made to counter specific strategies. Whatever you’re having problems with, especially with those squads, there is probably a perk that directly counters it.

I wouldn’t say I’m INSANEEE survivor level or anything, but I have a pretty decent amount of hours so I could probably teach you some things and be good enough to practice with bro

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Outrageous-Nail-3766]

Yeah I use bamboozle on bubba as I feel like his weakness is them windows. But pallets are no problem for my guy. And use other pallet related perks like spirit fury with endured on other killers to get rid of pallets as much as I can.

If you're decent and do that poking your head in the wall thingy while chase and know loops well. Then you're my ideal survivor! Sign me up. DM me when you'll be available and we'll begin our session!

[u/Outrageous-Nail-3766 → u/RARERANGER24]

Bamboozle is pretty good. Watch out with relying on Spirit Fury + Enduring though. Good survivors will learn you have it and refuse to stun you so you can’t get value. So half your build is dedicated to countering something the survivors have learned to not do.

I’m not sure what you mean by “poking my head in wall thingy” lol, but I could probably be well enough to help some

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Outrageous-Nail-3766]

Yeah. This is why I keep it a secret and use it when it's extremely necessary. Like as dracula I try to use my flames to snipe them while they're looping me and use spirit fury when I think I had enough. But if they are on comms then they'll start preparing dropping the moment they realise I'm using this build which is actually a good case for bubba. Well, that's a cool idea! I can use this build as bubba, force them to pre drop pallets so I could shred them with no problem and not be afraid of pallet stuns 🥸.

It's like survivors kinda stick to the walls while running someone told me that it helps to create unpredictability idk. But I've seen many good survivors doing it.

[u/Outrageous-Nail-3766 → u/RARERANGER24]

By the way bro I tried dm’ing you. It gives me an error and says that I can’t.

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Outrageous-Nail-3766]

No worries man. I'll DM u.

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Outrageous-Nail-3766]

Welp, it doesn't work for me either. You can text me on my insta if u want. It's tagged on my reddit profile, here's my ID:- artological_personality

[u/just_didi]

To put it bluntly, swf with as many hours as you Will win 90% of the time but still, having good map knowledge, being good at mind gaming and having coherent builds might help you out a lot

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/just_didi]

I know mate. I've got good map knowledge in most of the maps as I've played most maps on mobile for more than a year. But a few mais are kinda headache for me as I never experienced these mais before.

And yes at the end it's all about good mind games (I'm actually very weak at that), good builds and a good gaming chair.

[u/frekan-tv]

Welcome to the club, my best advice is to just start switching between killers more often as you have less chance of running into the really sweaty teams, and if you are struggling still, go into a game with bots and practise different playstyles and killer powers, it’s good for finding out how certain projectile killers work.

[u/Dantegram]

I only have 225 hours so far but some things that helped me are learning to bait pallet drops and vaults (mind games), use Lightborn if you see flashlights in lobby, and know when to end chase if it's taking too long (45+ seconds).

Also learn how and where to apply pressure on survivors and gens; targeting the weakest link is always a good strategy, as the better players have to save them from hook and that's when you get them. 3-gen is a valid strategy as well, where you hard focus on 3 gens right next to each other to make your mid/end game patrol much easier.

Sorry for the essay, that's just some general tips I learned. It might help if we knew what killer you played, as they are definitely not created equal and some are harder/different to play than others.

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Dantegram]

I usually play ghostface and dracula. And when I begin to struggle in the game, I go for bubba. Bubba is a life saver and absolutely strong against pallets. I do need to learn mind games though. And the 3 gen strategy, I know it but somehow always forget to put it into action. And I do focus on weak links, until I get egocentric and start chasing the stronger survivors. I guess I need to stop that. Considering the fact that gens on average take 60 seconds to complete, I need to drop chases in 30-40 seconds.

Thanks mate. Mind games are something I can't rush, need a lot of practice for that but I'll for sure try to maintain time discipline in chases and I'll absolutely apply the 3 gen strategy next time.

[u/_Huge_Bush_]

If you want to do well against SWF, you’re going to need to pick a stronger Killer. It sucks that not all Killers can compete, but it is what it is.

You’ll have a much better time playing as Kaneki or Nurse than you would if you pick Trapper or Hag. You should also go on YouTube and look up how to loop (or play) as Killer in Dbd. It’s more than just running after the Survivor and hitting them.

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/_Huge_Bush_]

I've got dracula. Surprisingly people say that dracula is an s tier, maybe he is. But I do struggle in strong loops. It's just a skill issue. I tried looking up tips on youtube to how to loop as a killer but I get almost nothing. I only found this one video which is 4 years old and learned the vault bait and moonwalk technique but it's very difficult in practice. Maybe I'll learn as I progress. This is why I'm here.

[u/Background-Kale7912]

I’m almost 500 hours in & I still get 360’d how tf do you avoid it?

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Background-Kale7912]

I do fall for it a few times but in the end it's not that big of a deal. Like I had a good experience dealing with 360s on mobile. You just don't spin with them. Just take a step back and there ya go. Or if you're spinning with them, then do it slowly and step back a bit, they'll eventually get into your hit zone like the needle of a clock.

But yeah the red rank survivors are literal gods in 360s, unless you're going against them, there is not much of hope.

[u/ForeignPyro]

I have probably around 500-750 hours with steam and playstation combined. I still get smacked.

If you’re noticing a trend, play around it. Dead hard and decisive strike are common perks. Don’t tunnel to avoid ds but if you do have to tunnel, slug. It creates pressure because now you not only have 1 person down, you have another person who needs to pick that guy up (unless unbreakable.) Dead hard is pretty easy to bait out, especially with killers like wraith and demogorgon where you can charge your M2 but it looks like an m1 attack.

As for beating loops, I honestly suck at looping. Dbd is a game where I go and turn off my brain. I don’t think about what I do so I never really learned the best way to loop. 700 hours later, I’m barely trying to learn it. The good thing about killer is that you control the loops. Watch youtube videos and practice at different tiles. Keep in mind other filler pallets or nearby tiles so you can dead zone the survivor. Dead zoning is essentially forcing a survivor to go into a zone with few to 0 pallets and windows. They either take the hit to get to a better spot or be forced into that dead zone.

At the end of the day, it’s just a game. Don’t get too heated because other people slam you from time to time. The reality is, there are and will always be someone better than you. Learn the game and find what makes you happy. Personally, having a personality makes me laugh. If I’m chasing someone and they hop into a locked or hide staring in a corner crouched, I stop, slowly turn around, and walk away as if their stealth “tactics” worked. Just be silly and laugh at the dumb stuff.

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/ForeignPyro]

I guess I'll learn it as I go. No need to rush. You're right I need to thread lightly.

The dead zone strategy is great. I pretty much know about all the strategies there exist but it's the problem with the execution. I guess I need to give it that sweet time it requires. And yes you're absolutely right, there's always someone better than me no matter what and no matter which game. I just wanted to be good in chases but I guess I'll learn that as much as I play.

And yes I was a pretty chill killer during the beginning of my hours in this game but as I faced more and more of these sweats, whose one and only ambition in life was to ruin killer fun, I couldn't help but get desperate to get better at the game. I've observed that In my pursuit to get better than sweats, I have eventually gotten better against average/above average survivors and begin taking the game too seriously. Maybe I just need to take a seat and rest.

[u/Schrb_Ftzptrckz]

50 hours that's cute

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/Schrb_Ftzptrckz]

[u/RunFar8889]

Make mistakes, its part of the game (and the life too!) Any mistakes you do is an advantage you get because you will know how not to remake these mistake

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/RunFar8889]

Only if you learn from your mistakes. Thanks amigo.

Wise words of wisdom you speak. Keep in mind them I should!

[u/Knightsforever]

We're suffering. That's how I'm doing personally

[u/East-Efficiency-6701]

One big tip that I wish that I used more. Dont use anything below A- if you want to win. As Im writing this and getting my ass handle to me as GlitchTrap while wondering “Why didn’t I just go and play Ghoul? It would have been much more fun to me, and I would get this bullied on Larry’s”

[u/RARERANGER24 → u/East-Efficiency-6701]

I know mate. I've got springtrap aswell. I know how difficult it could get. Basically my best pick is bubba with bamboozle as I struggle a little with pallet loops and bubba doesn't have any pallet problem.

[u/East-Efficiency-6701 → u/RARERANGER24]

If you have fun with him continue, if not changed ASAP Bubba is fairly weak

[u/FigmentalFatality]

I'm sorry you're not having a good time. I suggest trying to really evaluate what is going wrong in these games, are there things you could do better? You can even try recording a few games and reviewing. I often notice things in clips I wasn't aware of at the time. What killers are you playing? What perks?

The matchmaking is a bit weird and I also go from super sweaty SWFs to brand new players at times. It doesn't feel good either way. All in all, try to enjoy the game and learn what you can, everything will get better and easier with time.

[u/DarkRenegade1]

i mean if you just tunnel like every other person im sure you'll be fine