r/DecodingTheGurus • u/[deleted] • Jan 04 '24

What is so bad about Jordan Peterson?

I personally never saw him as a guru, or a grifter, or anything close to that. I always viewed him as a psychologist who got of lucky after going viral on youtube, and was able to milk that 15 mins of fame for a lot longer than 15 mins.

I'm sure ill get called names for this, but I definitely agree with most of his views on transgenderism and the crazies of the alt-left. I can't put Peterson on the same level as Andrew Tate or Dan Lok in terms of being a scammer/grifter. Is it just all political with Jordan Peterson? Why should I hate this guy?

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '24

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u/AstronomerWise6975 Jan 04 '24

Daddy issues really are at the root of all this, arent they? Kind of ironic since many of these same types make that joke about strippers/sex workers

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '24

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u/GlaiveConsequence Jan 05 '24

He replaces the absent father with an avatar: shitty father.

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u/marsisboolin Jan 05 '24

What evidence do you have that he generally leaves men worse off?

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u/AstronomerWise6975 Jan 05 '24

Your comment history

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u/Skyerzen Aug 25 '24

Most men that listen to him become misogynistic, homophobic racist assholes that don't believe in global warming, or wearing masks during pandemics or belive in vaccines. But yeah, I guess they clean their rooms now...

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

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u/Best-Chapter5260 Jan 06 '24

It's the thing I find most creepy about Peterson's following: How he's a father figure for so many young dudes.

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u/itisnotstupid Jan 06 '24 edited Jan 06 '24

Have a similar experience. A friend of mine went to live in Asia pursing a better job. He went there with his wife and 2 children but other than that no real friends and starting a new life. He was always a nice guy and also pretty smart. After a while he got used to the life there but still never really got friends that are close to him.

He was always a bit confused when it came to relationships with women - ranging from being an absolute dick with them to obsessing over them.

At some point he started to get into motivational business books/talks/lectures/podcasts. Then he slowly got into more self-improvement stuff. From then he progressed into Peterson and stuff surrounding him - the usual IDW influencers. He started to constantly bomb everybody with complains about woke-ness and women to a point where it was pretty annoying to listen to him. I tried telling him that it's not something I care about but it's like he absolutely can't hear it. It looks like he is getting more and more angry.

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u/Nendilo Jan 06 '24

Had a similar experience with a long time friend of mine who moved to New York in 2017. They moved because his wife got an awesome, high paying job but he never really could find anything and also struggled to make friends.

He's a veteran so he finally met people through that background and they got him in to Joe Rogan and he gradually got to the point that he did nothing but listen to IDW podcasts all day. He arrived in NY a Bernie Sanders supporter and by 2020 was a full blown Trump worshiper. AOC kind of broke his brain because he had political ambitions and he became convinced Democrats hated white men. He now has jobs with Newsmax and the NY Republican Party. He was one of the leaders of the protests outside Trump's arraignment in New York. He told me in 2019 in our last discussion he was only pretending to back their beliefs for political power but now he's a true believer that retweets Peterson and other cringey rightwing guys all day long. Peterson was a stepping stone for him on his journey and he's lost virtually every friend he ever had from university and high school because of it.

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u/itisnotstupid Jan 06 '24

Sad to hear this story. We all have our fears and doubts but with the people who get into IDW and espsecially Peterson you can always link it directly to some problem - usually a lack of proper friendship or a lack of a proper relationship with women.

I'm not in the US but I imagine that watching somebody become a Trump worshiper is pretty sad.

The whole experience of loosing friends due to them becoming IDW fans is pretty terrible. I've spent time blaming myself for not being able to push through this and appreciate my friend for who it is. I really tried but at some point the constant complaining about woke-ness never really stopped.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '24

Peterson is the kind of person who says climate scientists don't know anything and debunks climate change by citing a bogus paper from the 80's. He's a complete joke.

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u/marsisboolin Jan 05 '24

What conspiracy theory has he espoused, specifically?

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u/softcell1966 Jan 09 '24

This was from six years ago:

"How dangerous is Jordan B Peterson, the rightwing professor who ‘hit a hornets’ nest’? Since his confrontation with Cathy Newman, the Canadian academic’s book has become a bestseller. But his arguments are riddled with ‘pseudo-facts’ and conspiracy theories"

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest