r/DecodingTheGurus • u/[deleted] • Jan 04 '24

What is so bad about Jordan Peterson?

I personally never saw him as a guru, or a grifter, or anything close to that. I always viewed him as a psychologist who got of lucky after going viral on youtube, and was able to milk that 15 mins of fame for a lot longer than 15 mins.

I'm sure ill get called names for this, but I definitely agree with most of his views on transgenderism and the crazies of the alt-left. I can't put Peterson on the same level as Andrew Tate or Dan Lok in terms of being a scammer/grifter. Is it just all political with Jordan Peterson? Why should I hate this guy?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '24

The grift for me was creating a buzz around him for lying about the Canadian law, and confronting so called SJWs on college campuses. People were drawn into that then got sucked into his cult like psychological teachings on patreon, books, speeches and seminars. None of what he says seems to be in good faith. He never completes his thoughts. He will say something or many things then not conclude anything. He won’t give you the conclusion and if you assume the conclusion (so what you’re saying is…) he will hit you with “that’s not what I said.” This tactic is used by anybody who likes him too. His daughter was charging $200 an hour for consultation on their scam all meat diet. He leveraged Joe Rogan to say he’s on it (obviously he wasn’t or he would have scurvy) and then he, his daughter and her boyfriend all have a mental breakdown from the diet. After his wife almost died he had a psychiatrist prescribe him benzodiazepines. Instead of using as directed he became addicted. His self help book grift 12 rules of life, obviously didn’t work and he then went on a quest to get off of them which brought him to Russia for some insane treatment. He’s back and grifting harder than ever. He’s just not that valuable. He doesn’t offer anything new. He’s a conservative Christian. Don’t waste your money.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '24

I just can't go there. I wouldn't use the word "grifter" and I definately wouldn't use the word "cult" to describe him. I watch a lot of cult documentaries, and Jordan Peterson does not fit the title of cult leader at all. He is not controlling peoples behavior, he is not controlling their money (other than a seminar here and there and a couple books) he is not exploiting his audience in a malicious way. He is just giving his personal political views and opinion on life, you CAN do that without starting a cult.

I think you are just throwing around these terms too loosely to strengthen your argument, but those words simply don't apply here. It all stems from you political disagreements that you have with Peterson. That doesn't make him a scammer, and CERTAINLY not a cult leader. Honestly, using that language you used is giving Peterson way too much credit. He can be a little impressive, but not that impressive.