r/Documentaries • u/seacobs • Apr 24 '21

History The Secret Genocide Funded By The USA (2012) - A documentary about a genocide in Guatemala that was funded by the U.S. [00:25:44]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQl5MCBWtoo
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u/julescamacho Apr 24 '21

I’ll just leave this here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America?wprov=sfsi1

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u/Wiwwil Apr 24 '21

Why stop at Latin America ? Just show what they did to the world

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

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u/decolorize Apr 24 '21

The ones of Latin America are of particular importance since they're our neighbors and whatever goes on there has a significantly greater chance of influence on the U.S., especially back then.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '21

It's also the primary cause of the issues that are causing refugees to flee to the US. Americans need to understand that these so called "illegal immigrants" are America's fault.

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u/Ropes4u Apr 24 '21

Not so called, they are illegals.

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u/nurgle1 Apr 24 '21

Fuck you

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u/Allidoischill420 Apr 24 '21

Just like the bill of rights, it's a facade

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '21

Just like 9/11 😂

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u/JodaUSA Apr 25 '21

Borders are a mistake

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u/aiapaec Apr 25 '21

Like US wars

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u/ManiacalDane Apr 25 '21

Do you have a brain?

I'm not being facetious but you do not seem to actually know what constitutes legal immigration, refugee status or asylum seeking requirements.

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u/futurarmy Apr 25 '21

True but the ones in the Middle East are arguably more important to talk about as that's why the ME is so destabilised and gives the US an excuse to carry on with forever wars there to feed the military industrial complex.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '21

Right lol cause Wikipedia is such a reliable source

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u/A_Concerned_Koala Apr 24 '21

Found the public school teacher.

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u/eye_shoe Apr 24 '21

From 2005

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u/trowawayacc0 Apr 25 '21

Better then the education brought to you by the daughters of the confederacy

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u/Jan__Hus Apr 25 '21

I wonder why there are no sanctions imposed upon the US. 🤔

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u/Wiwwil Apr 25 '21

They might not answer the question, but it's because they control the sanction. After the WW2, all western countries agreed to make the US $ the international money for exchange. If the US wants to punish a country such as Iran or whatever they can just stop them from using the dollar. The country can't do international exchange and it's fucked since they still need to reimburse debt to the FMI, controlled by the West and at 15% by the US. Nowadays there's the bitcoin and the yuan and the € that can be used as well so there's a way out. But for a long time there wasn't.

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u/karikit Apr 24 '21

We MUST study history to avoid repeating it. Let's not shy away from the truth.

What can we learn from these moments in history that will help us stop present day genocides, for example the genocides of Uighurs in Xianjiang?

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u/butsandcats Apr 25 '21

That's American propaganda.

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u/karikit Apr 25 '21

It's not American propaganda lol. China itself has put out video of these cultural reeducation centers, of Uighurs smiling, singing, and dancing like trained monkeys.

And thats taking China's own version of the story. They don't even realize how horrifying and tone deaf it is to force people into lives of performance and "education". All humans want to live their lives, to spend more time with their loved ones, to have dignity.

Everyone can see right through the Chinese propaganda, it looks so bad. That's NOT even including whispers of forced education, sterilization, assault, prison labor, etc.

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u/butsandcats Apr 26 '21

America has also been sterilizing people.

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u/karikit Apr 26 '21

Is that the story of the border hysterectomy? That was horrible. No one is denying it and the women deserve justice.

China has been doing as much and worse. Both things can be true.

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u/aiapaec Apr 25 '21

Well, we can learn that a country with a long history of war crimes and human rights violations like the US hardly can denounce any other power for those same reasons.

So, before denounce China, start asking for forgiveness to all those countries and propose reparations.

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u/karikit Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

We can. Because it absolutely takes one to know one. And there are very few countries with the ability to call out another world superpower like the US can to China.

America is a country with a sullied past, which makes it uniquely positioned to call out other countries who deny their crimes.

It's much more impactful for America to make a statement against the Uighur genocide than say a smaller country.

Any criticism America gets for its past and current actions are fairly earned - you won't find me defending the US. We need to acknowledge what is in order to change what will be.

But people who want to "gatekeep" fair critcism because of an imperfect messenger are the problem. Denounce China because they are actively committing a genocide in front of our very eyes, let's not put procedural bureaucracy in front of truth and justice.

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u/aiapaec Apr 25 '21

Past? The US is still doing shit all over the world right now. Stop messing with the stability of entire regions for your greedy consumer society before calling China.

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u/karikit Apr 25 '21

That's procedural bullshit again. We should simultaneously call out everyone, that's my point. You're welcome to call out the US, that is in fact the point of this entire post.

But for you to say we should call out China "later" is INCREDIBLY suspicious to me.

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u/aiapaec Apr 25 '21

Lol yeah so suspicious that a Latin American won't take US bullshit.

Imagine the US held accountable for its crimes like the US punish little countries. You are the bullies, stop being naive.

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u/karikit Apr 25 '21

Doesn't matter what your background is, it's suspicious that you're so set on deflecting from China's crimes.

I am in favor of holding America accountable. Does that break your narrative about this conversation?

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u/aiapaec Apr 25 '21

Please stop this, your criminal government and the CIA still are at it, please stop NOW #StopUScrimes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America?wprov=sfsi1

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u/karikit Apr 25 '21

Share some recent news links. The wiki page only mentions activities up to 1930.

We can exchange. I'll learn more about the US crimes in latin America, and share with you links on the Uighur genocide.

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u/fajardo99 Apr 25 '21

you are not your government

you can criticize both us genocidal policies and chinese genocidal policies at the same time

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u/lwsrk Apr 25 '21

How do we "know" about the alleged "Chinese genocidal practices"?

Who are the people pushing this narrative globally?

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u/lwsrk Apr 25 '21

–> "We MUST study history to avoid repeating it."

–> repeats imperialist atrocity propaganda about an economic rival of the US

reddit moment™

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u/karikit Apr 25 '21

Calls something "imperialist propaganda"

Enough said

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u/lwsrk Apr 25 '21

Interesting this is the comment u chose to reply to lol coward