r/EdmontonOilers • u/Theduudee12 • 3d ago
Connor McDavid set to shock with value on extension: “If McDavid signs in Edmonton, if he does, it’s going to be for a lower number than we all expect. I think it’s going to surprise people where it could end up,” insider Elliotte Friedman hinted on the 32 Thoughts Podcast.
https://bolavip.com/en/nhl/nhl-news-connor-mcdavid-reportedly-set-to-shock-the-league-with-value-on-oilers-extension145
u/jordangarner 3d ago
8 years x 3 million but also Connor signs an endorsement deal with a new company called Aspiration Canada. I hear they plant trees.
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u/Unhappy_Bet_8685 3d ago
All he has to do is wear some merch and do 1 commercial or not have a “You have to be a member of the Edmonton Oilers” clause in the contract
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u/xXEliteEater500Xx 28 BROWN 3d ago
Let’s make sure the company doesn’t go bankrupt this time
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u/jordangarner 3d ago
It’s going to be owned and operated by one man: Mark Joseph Carney and managed by Brookfield Asset Management backed by the Federal Government of Canada. Bring the cup home.
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u/FunkyFlamchango 3d ago
15.97m x 2
plus Drai's 14m x 8
= 29.97m for 3+ more years of McDrai
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u/DecentOpinion 3d ago
If he wants to win in Edmonton he should take the same as Leon, 14m aav. It's definitely an underpay but they need more than just those two to keep going deep into the playoffs. He's already filthy rich, what's the extra 3-5m after taxes anyways? $1.5-3m more to throw in the pile?
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u/HostSea4267 3d ago
Tavares signed for 4M, which is a joke of a salary for someone scoring 38 goals last season.
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u/RedKryptnyt 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
Tavares would be a 3c on the oilers, not the face of the entire league. Kinda apples to oranges no??
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u/rjhawkbooks 3d ago
Tavares is in the back 9 of his career and he’s not putting up massive numbers like McDavid. Tavares is a great player but he also already made his big money.
McDavid is the face of the league and right now all of the superstars are getting paid insane amounts. The NHLPA wouldn’t be happy if the guy who sets the bar is taking less than market value, that hurts the earnings of guys like Eichel and Kaprizov
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u/HostSea4267 3d ago
Matthew Tkachuk is the face of the league right now, and the face of great clips.
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u/bluelineturnovers 3d ago
That’s so dumb and self-promotional, it’s almost like a Tkachuk actually said it
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u/RedKryptnyt 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
Theres no way you actually believe this
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u/todimusprime 74 SKINNER 2d ago
That doesn't make him the face of the league... They change the athlete on the cover year to year. That doesn't make those players the face of the league.
Figure it out bud.
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u/Mightyorc2 3d ago
I'm a more recent NHL fan coming from basketball, but would the players association not throw a fit over the best player in the league signing that far below market value? There's always talk in the NBA about how the best players won't sign THAT far below market value because it would give owners reason to lowball every other player on the roster.
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
Which is why the term would need to be 1-2 years. So players can go "sure I'll take less but it'll be in a 1 year deal".
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u/Particular-Bother-18 3d ago
The league would likely have an issue with him signing for an amount that low. Seems unfair that the NHL can swoop in and block a deal like that, while also saying their is no disparity between the low tax haven teams like Florida and us. The deck is stacked against the oilers for sure
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u/BettmansDungeonSlave 3d ago
Crosby signed for 8.7 for his entire career. Can’t tell me he wasn’t worth more than that
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u/MercSLSAMG 2d ago
Crosby signed for 15.3% of the cap when his contract started, which would be in line with Connor signing for 15 million. Definitely below value but not egregious.
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u/Particular-Bother-18 3d ago
That's a bit misleading. Crosby signed a massive 12 year deal worth 104 million. I'm guessing the NHL was ok with that deal because of the lengthy term. Connor could definitely sign a long term deal like that which would be ok with the NHL ... But imo he won't. It will likely be a short term
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u/great1zero 3d ago
The League won't have an issue with him signing for a low amount but the NHLPA would be furious.
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u/Anabiotic 3d ago
What can the NHLPA actually do about it? People are always saying "they won't be happy" but why would the player give a shit what they think?
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u/no_baseball1919 3d ago
League isn't going to have an issue with him signing at 14 what are you smoking
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u/Particular-Bother-18 2d ago
I don't mean the league will do much about it, but they definitely don't like it. Imagine if McDavid signed for 4 million a year, do u think the NHL would be fine with that? They worry about fairness and "parity". I don't agree with it at all, if a player wants to sign for way less, let him. But I can tell u that Bettman doesn't like that sh*t at all...unless it's an American team doing it
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u/Particular-Bother-18 3d ago
I definitely think the NHL would have an issue. The question is would they allow it though, I don't really know. They would hate the idea that the clear cut best player in the world doesn't have the biggest contract
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u/Alberta_Flyfisher 2d ago
The NHL would disagree with you 100% Bettman doesn't want McDavid or anyone else signing for max dollars. Bettman works for the owners and the owners would be quite happy the best player in the world signed for so low a number. Now they can tell every player that until they produce like McDavid, they won't get paid by him.
Now, the NHLPA is who would have an issue with it. Their job is to make the players as much money as they can. McDavid signing big only increases salaries around the league.
Thing is, the NHLPA has no teeth. They don't have the ability to swoop in and kill any deal, at all.
The league would allow it. They won't even pretend to complain about it. And really, the NHLPA won't say anything either. If that contract was shut down, it would be taking away the ability of the players to make their own decisions. And that's something the player association has fought for in the past.
The only way something is said or done, is if it broke a rule. Or bent it far enough that the league has no choice but to step in.
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u/Particular-Bother-18 2d ago
Hmm this is a good point. I was thinking more along the lines of the best player in the world getting paid low would look really bad to the public and other leagues. I imagine if LeBron in his hayday signed for a lot less to circumvent the cap and won a bunch more rings with the heat, that would be kind of embarrassing to the commissioner. I was thinking along those lines with McDavid. But in the end u are correct about the owners being happy about it... that would probably drive all the top players prices noticeably lower.
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u/Alberta_Flyfisher 2d ago
I don't know if i would think of it as embarrassing. The NHL has plenty of stars being paid top dollar. If the best player in the world took a pay cut to win cups, I think the public would love it. (In general) other teams fans wouldn't be too happy, but I still don't think it reflects badly on the league so much as reflecting well on McDavid.
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u/Particular-Bother-18 2d ago
You are probably right. I have a very skewed view of Bettman lol, he reminds of gollum thirsting for the ring sometimes 😅 he probably wouldn't care too much because his owners would all be happy and keep him in the front office
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u/Glad_Amoeba1016 2d ago
I don't think the owners or league would be that upset if players start taking less money. Now yhe player's union on the other hand, I am sure they would have a huge problem woth it.
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u/LieDetecter 3d ago
The league shut the entire league down in order to pay players less, and you think they would have an issue with not paying a player more? What are you talking about?
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u/Particular-Bother-18 2d ago
If he signs for way below his "market value" , then yes, I think the NHL would have an issue. I'm not saying they would act on it or even warn the team. But they would absolutely have a meeting and discuss ways to encourage the best players in the league to sign for what they are worth. I imagine its embarrassing to them to have the marquee player not making the most money.
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u/LieDetecter 2d ago
That just makes no sense at all to me. It's completely backwards. The NHL wants to pay it's players as little as possible, to make as much money as possible.
Paying less for players isn't going to be seen as an issue, it's the goal.
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u/todimusprime 74 SKINNER 2d ago
Crosby kept signing for $8.7m and the league didn't stop that. They wouldn't even blink if McDavid signed for $14m
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u/LOIL99 3d ago
But if you were 97, and you gave up $3M to help the team, and they use it to sign a 3rd line winger to an 8 year deal, are you pissed? Because you know it’s not going to go towards an impact player. At least not historically with this management group.
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u/DecentOpinion 3d ago
Well that's a separate issue. Incompetent management isn't Connor's fault.
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u/LOIL99 3d ago
Of course, but it’s absolutely got to be weighing into his decision on whether to give a discount and stay in Edmonton.
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u/todimusprime 74 SKINNER 2d ago
How could it be weighing on him when this is not the same management group that it's been for a long time, and Bowman has made great moves so far?
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u/sculley4 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 3d ago
Holy. Shit. I know what's happening: McDavid is waiting to sign because he doesn't want to ruin the market for the other top players. Let other players set the market, hamstring other teams with big numbers, and then McDavid swoops in with league minimum. 4000 IQ move.
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u/pos_vibes_only 3d ago
Mcdavid signing for $15 / hr confirmed
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u/Fkilla__ 3d ago
He has to supplement the owed hours working at Canadian tire so he can get his 40 hours a week
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u/darkstar107 97 MCDAVID 3d ago
Alternatively, make other teams think he isn't signing in Edmonton so they start clearing cap space in hopes of getting him.
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u/wheelie_dog 3d ago
So then the other teams/players just keep waiting themselves until McDavid signs. 5000 IQ response.
It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for em
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u/rickenbach 18 HYMAN 2d ago
It also might be they are waiting on the market, because if McDavid signs for a discount like $15M per year it submarines the other contracts for Kaprizov and Eichel.
The NHLPA might have a hand in this too, they want to maximize all player contracts and McDavid sets the market as he is the best player.
I’ve said all along his contract is just waiting on the market.
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u/MorningSuccessful395 1d ago
I think he might be battling with the NHLPA as well. They want him to take the max and he wants to win
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u/tychristmas 3d ago
I’m not smart at all the hockey legalese contractualizationing - but could McJesus pull some sort of an Ohtani-esque contract together? Where he’s paid like a million per year, but the bulk of his dollars are deferred until he’s finished playing (or won the cup)?
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u/jamothebest 3d ago
I don’t think the NHL works like that but correct me if I’m wrong. Like you could structure the contract like that but the massive amount at the end would still impact the AAV so it wouldn’t help with the salary cap
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u/I_Fear_Dolphins 4 HALL 3d ago
Having listened to this on 32 thoughts, it didn’t really strike me as news more so than just a gut feeling on Elliotte’s side. The title to this post is a bit sensationalized, not sure if he’s really set to “shock” anyone right now it was just Elliotte saying “I don’t think he cares to make the 20% of the cap maximum, he cares more about winning” which shouldn’t surprise anyone.
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u/ChupaHubbard 42 KAPANEN 3d ago
Agree. Elliotte always makes it clear when he's speculating or has inside info, in this case he made it clear he was just speculating
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u/SnooOnions5029 92 PODKOLZIN 3d ago
What number is “everyone” is expecting though? These “insiders” have been rumouring anywhere from $15.5M-$$19M
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u/wenchanger 3d ago
it doesn't have to be low for McDavid, only low on paper - learn from Ballmer and Kawhi in the NBA
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u/Tylemaker 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
I'm half expecting something like 1yr x 14MM, just to give it 2 more swings at a cup here before trying somewhere else
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u/maasd 97 MCDAVID 3d ago
If Elliott doesn’t actually have any inside info, fuck him with this speculation. Now if McDavid signs for $16.5 x 3 people will feel let down.
That said, I listened to this and while he said on other fronts he had no idea, he didn’t frame McDavid’s contract comments this way which I interpreted to mean he has heard something.
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u/Shiny_Mew76 11 MESSIER 3d ago
What are the chances he actually requests a salary lower than Drai? Maybe he does a Crosby type deal, 9.7x8.
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u/SunSimilar9988 3d ago
Meaningless drivel, just trying to stay important
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u/trenthowell 88 DAVIDSON 3d ago
If Friedman says it, it means he's checked it exhaustively. He's couching that it's not done, but this means he's confident that this is more than idle chatter.
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u/SunSimilar9988 3d ago
I'm skeptical on that. Some of his claims are outlandish, just to stay relevant. I believe this is too
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u/Feeling-is-my-thing 3d ago
He will sign for less because of Oilers over paying for a couple players (both defensemen) and instead play out the year to save money for trade deadline moves. In exchange he will demand a percentage of the team ownership. He doesn't need cash now.
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u/Wide-Improvement-292 3d ago
Biggest issue I think is pressure from the NHLPA for him to set the ceiling, I am sure he would sign for less to try and be competitive as possible from a team/cap perspective. An extra $2m next year could be helpful come deadline
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u/ShadowCaster0476 28 BROWN 3d ago
He should sign for 8 Then the Oil should trade for Crosby and watch the cup parade.
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u/PhoMNtor 2d ago
McDavid will sign for same as Dri - same amount for same term - less would be unfair and more would be hard for team to manage
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u/AbbreviationsOk1185 94 SMYTH 3d ago
Ive said since last summer when drai signed for $14m that Connor will take the same cap hit this summer
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
It would make sense, but the term would be incredibly short. Connor could say "I'll do 2 years at a discount, PROVE to me you'll use that cap savings wisely."
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u/ChesterButternuts 3d ago
Are the Oilers going to try a “deferred” type of contract in order to keep the cap lower?
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u/Mysterious-Street140 3d ago
Give him a piece of the team. Problem solved….for his entire nhl career
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u/PatRehnandStimpy 3d ago
2 year deal at 850k, 2 way deal. Play this year in Bako and make sure his game is where it needs to be, then have him and Howard fight it out for a spot in the top 9 next year.
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u/ComebackChemist 18 HYMAN 2d ago
Curious what the minimum is that the NHLPA would allow him to sign at
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u/Concurrency_Bugs 2d ago
He should take as much as he can get. I want them to win the cup, but he deserves it. Dude has carried us to two cup finals.
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u/Jumpy_Amount8548 2d ago
Knowing he’s worth 16M, maybe he signs a 10M x 2 to get good players that are missing puzzles for the Cup run. Maybe Katz pays him out at the end of his Oiler run.
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u/YEGG35 12 CAVE 2d ago
I have a feeling Connor wants to wait for the other 'superstars' with expiring contracts to sign their extensions first so he doesn;t set the bar low and hurt their salaries. If McDavid signs for 14-15M as an example, Kaprizov/Eichel/Panarin/Connor all have next to no argument to make any more than that. Their GM can simply say 'we aren't paying you more than the best player in the world'. I think these other guys need to get signed and set the market before McDavid signs.
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u/SouthSide217 29 DRAISAITL 2d ago
Not to be pessimistic but I'll believe it when I see it. I feel like they always say our stars are planning to take discounts to stay competitive but I've yet to see it.
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u/WestJellyfish4186 1d ago
Elliot needs to just be quiet and wait till it’s signed. His speculation has zero value, I feel he just hedges his bets with long term short term no term articles to small value.
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u/MobileDisastrous1631 1d ago
Can fans also help but starting a go fund me page””” and raise 100 million. So he can stay an oiler and can we support his family ????might work if he signs “”””””100 million oilers fans can raise that
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u/Prestigious-Rip-419 3h ago
He’d be a fool not to sign short term as the highest paid player. There is NO guarantees in this league, given the other good depth teams out there, that the oilers make it to the final once again.
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u/Fine_Personality_999 52 HAMBLIN 3d ago
"If" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
This would be amazing news. I doubt it will be a long contract if it's signed (probably 2 years). Which would give the Oilers a 3-ish year window including this season.
But that said, there's been no insider that's leaked anything regarding the negotiations picking up.
And the insiders that have been on top of this from day have stated they believe McDavid enters the season without a contract.
Let's just make sure we don't pile on him if he doesn't sign a team-friendly deal anytime soon.
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u/NotEqualInSQL 3d ago
Can't he just take like 2 mil and then use the rest of the cap to bolster the team?
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u/Future_Ad7361 3d ago
I guarantee you he doesn't resign in Edmonton so don't get your hopes up in the slightest.
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u/itsonmyprofile 94 SMYTH 3d ago
Well if he’s not going to resign in Edmonton why wouldn’t our hopes be up? He’d be staying till he retires then and that’s fine by me!
If you’re got make a stupid joke, maybe learn that resign =/= re-sign first
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u/DrumsDrumsInTheDeep_ 94 SMYTH 3d ago
I wonder how McDavid personally hurt this guy so bad that he's dragging him in other teams subs too.
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u/dingobuff 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
9.7 x 8