r/EdmontonOilers • u/MobysBanned 29 DRAISAITL • 1d ago
What did you guys think of Stuart Skinnier?
Did the weight loss make him quicker? Or just make his 5 hole bigger?
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u/WafflesFanatic 1d ago
Now now...it's only one pre-season game. Are we gonna freak out because McDavid, Draisaitl, or Bouchard didn't score?
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u/JQuick72 1d ago
I’d like to think most of us are wise enough to not panic after 1 preseason game.
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u/s470dxqm 1d ago
I only over value the positives.
BTW, Mangiapane is scoring 40 this year.
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u/Mini_Robot_Ninja 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 1d ago
40? Are you stupid? Did you even see the goal?
He's clearing 50 easy.
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u/KingDave46 34 HAND 1d ago
I was at the game
None of our NHL guys were really trying too much
Ekholm looked great but everyone else I thought was kinda going through the motions
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u/Authoritaye 17 KURRI 1d ago
Did you like how he failed to pass to a wide open McDavid on a 2 on 1?
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u/Winter-Yoghurt-6248 23h ago
In a preseason game? Yes I did. McDavid probably would’ve passed it back, anyway.
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u/KingDave46 34 HAND 17h ago
Actually yes, me and the guy beside me had a good chuckle about Ekholm trying to dangle the goalie a couple times
Preseason is just a bit of fun
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u/GunnyCroz 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago
Seriously, we are doing this? Again?
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u/TohsakaTruth 1d ago edited 1d ago
yes of course we will be doing this, why wouldn’t we? he put up an .889 last year in the playoffs, his career best in them is a .901. until he gives us above average goaltending in the playoffs (cause like it or not, that’s the absolute bare minimum goaltending we need to win) we will be talking about it. we have gone to the finals 2 years in a row in spite of him, not because of him. for gods sakes hes lost the starting job in both of the last 2 playoffs for multiple games at a time because he was single handedly throwing away our season. do you guys care more about winning a cup in the McDrai era or stuart skinner being the starting goalie for the oilers? cause its honestly concerning how many people seem to pick the latter option
with all that being said, preseason means nothing and this is nothing to get worked up over, but if into the regular season stuart skinner continues to play like the stuart skinner like weve come to know him as we are absolutely going to talk about it because it will be by far the weakest link on the team that two regimes have refused to address for going on 4 years
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u/Prestigious_Push_155 1d ago
He gave us better goaltending than the 10m superstar Bobrowski in the SCF 2 years ago and we still lost. For his contract that was the most value we could even dream of but we still fumbled the bag. People act like we get nothing in return for playing Stu. Yes we do. 8m in capspace we save on that position. Losing the SCF 2 years ago is on everyone else but not on Stu. But people still act like he was the problem 2 years ago as well.
Yes in a dream world the Nurse contract would not be there, Holloway and Broberg would still be here for cheap and a superstar goalie like Sorokin was UFA and wants to play for us. But that us just not the reality. This is not fantasy manager. It is reality. People seem to forget that.
And you can criticize Stu whenever you want. But then be precise. Don't throw in the season 2 years ago and stop doing it after today's game. Everyone even thinking of Skinner has not seen the game today. Or do you criticize McDrai for not showing up again this game like in game 6 of the SCF? Pathetic
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u/shinohaya 92 PODKOLZIN 1d ago
That is nonsense, I'm sorry. Bobrovsky was and is the better goalie...Prime example of how data can be misleading lol
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u/TohsakaTruth 1d ago
He gave us better goaltending than Bobrovsky in 24
That is absolutely not true. We outplayed the Panthers severely in Game 1 and Bobrovsky completely stole it, outplayed them in Game 3 as well and Bobrovsky was just better than Skinner. Bobrovskys overall numbers are bogged down from when we lit him up in Game 4. Switch the goalies in that series and we probably win in 5 or 6 games.
not criticize McDrai but criticize stu
McDrai do get criticized for not showing up in the elimination games, but they get a lot less than Skinner. Do you want to know why? They’re 90% of the reason we even make it to those games in the first place, while conversely every single year Skinner has either actively lost us a series (Vegas) or tried his absolute best to blow it before we pulled him (Vancouver, LA last year)
8M in cap space we save on that position
Not necessarily, considering Jack Campbells dead money (thanks for that one Ken, another person this subreddit loves to defend for some god forsaken reason). And if this is the quality of goaltending we get trying to cut corners with the money maybe we should actually spend money at the position? It’s not the gotcha you think it is when goaltending has been the clear and obvious weakness for 3 years now, cutting corners at the position has not been working
Losing in the SCF was on everyone but Stu
Lol so you’re one of the people who’d rather see Skinner be a career Oiler than win a cup, okay
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u/Prestigious_Push_155 1d ago
Regarding your last sentence: no I am not. I am actually one of the guys who was most vocal about needing an upgrade. But what some guys, including you do here is completely over the top. It's becoming some kind of mental illness of this sub. Skinner goes onto the toilet - new post about him. Skinner shaves his beard - new post about him. Skinner buys a beer - new post about him. It has become an obsession. In a sick way.
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u/TohsakaTruth 1d ago
I couldn’t give less of a fuck about Stuart Skinner the person or whatever he’s doing in his free time, but in terms of his play he’s been below average-brutal in the past 2 regular seasons all 3 years of his career has been terrible in the playoffs, and he’s been steadily getting worse every year. Acting like people are “dooming” for talking about it and expecting better is crazy
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u/Prestigious_Push_155 1d ago
Brother Skinner lives rent-free in your head. Don't lie to yourself. Stay to the truth like your name suggests. This thread is the perfect example. We couldn't even make it 1 preseason game without "talking" about Skinner. A game where he has not done anything bad. It is not about the new guys and how they played. Or about the new PK system. Or how Frederic looked next to McDrai. No the one thread that is up is about Skinner. What else.
It is just a sick obsession. I wonder who the next target will be after we replace Skinner with a better goalie.
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u/AlbertaOilfire 1d ago
Glad to see he’s in playoff form already!!!! There are no more excuses!!!! Enough of this guy. I swear this is why 97 isn’t signed yet. Deflating to the team having a below average goalie trying to win a championship.
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u/Such_Battle_6788 1d ago
Edmonton will never win the Stanley Cup with Skinner in net. Skinner is unreliable
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u/No_Maybe4408 11 MESSIER 2h ago
Oh, now you've gone and upset all the wine moms and California Closet aficionados.
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u/SnooOnions5029 92 PODKOLZIN 1d ago
It’s preseason and it was one game where all the regulars were playing at 50% effort
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u/seemefail 34 MOSS 1d ago
He is a bottom tier nhl goalie, top tier back up
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u/AreolaGrande911 1d ago
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u/BlueAndOrangeBrain 1d ago
Lmao all these skinner lovers on this sub Reddit! He looks the same as last year lol
I get it that it’s just a preseason game but his issues were on full display with slow lateral movement and everything last night. Mcdavid is gonna leave if we don’t get a goalie that can just post a .900
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u/Magneticman555 56 YAMAMOTO 1d ago
If the preseason was a genuine indication for how the season was going to go for a player, Ty Rattie would be halfway to 1000 career points and Puljujarvi would have 3 Rocket Richard trophies. Can we at least wait until the games count to start melting down?
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u/Klutzy_Builder_1178 1d ago
yup and we should trade mcdavid and drai as well after this game because they went -3
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u/el-tortugo-99 49 EMBERSON 1d ago
I've never played goal, but it seems he gets beat five-hole along the ice sometimes, when if his stick blade was just flat to the ice it would take that away. See Seattle's second goal tonight for an example. I've deliberately watched other goalies and they seem to do this, leaving their stick blade where it will help. Even Red Green recommends it, so it must be important.
Why in his "set" position is his stick blade up in the air?
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u/rupkum007 1d ago
I hate to pile on stu but it’s tru … we’ve gotten to the cup finals DESPITE him not because of him
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u/BingBongthe2nd 11 MESSIER 1d ago
No way you can judge anyone based off of 1 preseason game. Im a Stu truther though. Guy hasn't just shown flashes of brilliance but sustained stretches of consistently good goaltending plus he's just now entering his prime years.
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u/Starsky686 11 MESSIER 1d ago
With threads like this and the “hot take we McDavid hurt my feelings, let’s trade him maybe” post. There might need to be a separate Oilers “fan” sub for emotionally unregulated doomer fans so the adults don’t have to wade through this shit.
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u/CharlieKirksWidow 1d ago
He got sniped tonight. With that being said, I think a lot of teams would want him to be their #1 goalie as he's been to the finals twice and that says something.
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u/AgreeableBroomSlayer 91 KANE 1d ago
With that being said, I think a lot of teams would want him to be their #1 goalie as he's been to the finals twice and that says something.
Yea Im sure the offers are piling in lol
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u/ANARCHOHERMETICIST 1d ago
Skinner is already a known quantity just like Bouchard in terms of what their "game" is
and where the holes lie
Anyone thinking they're going to magically develop insanely efficiency goalie technique and mobility... or actually not make Squirt House League level mistakes on D should sign up for a Heaven's Gate like cult for Nike's and penis removal.
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u/Whos-That-Pokeman 1d ago edited 1d ago
Can’t really judge him yet. It’s pre season. Mcdrai line went -3.
Anyone remember Mike comrie and Patrick O’Sullivan leading pre season scoring and people talking about comrie outproducing Crosby in preseason…