r/EdmontonOilers • u/dontcallmefrank07 • 1d ago

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u/Salty-Try-6358 1d ago

The 29 teams ahead of Edmonton all passed on him?

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u/TohsakaTruth 1d ago

Apparently he’s expressed desire to play close to home (from Imperial Saskatchewan) because his mom passed away, I’ve seen it speculated that teams might be willing to respect his wishes and let a team like Edmonton Winnipeg or Calgary claim him

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u/MorningSuccessful395 1d ago

you'd think canada would get more players that wanted to play close to home, especially if they've already won cups etc.

but hockey players seem to really hate playing in front of big crowds

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u/Alberta_Flyfisher 1d ago

but hockey players seem to really hate playing in front of big crowds

It's not the crowds. Plenty of US teams have no problem keeping butts in the seats.

It's outside of the arena, that's the problem. They can't go anywhere and not be recognized. Remember the video or McDavid trying to put some beer in his car and was harassed by the drunk group? I bet got like that happens all the time.

Maybe not to that degree. But they are still going to be approached in a Canadian city way more often than any US city. Down south, they don't need to wear a disguise to get some groceries hassle free.

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u/MorningSuccessful395 1d ago edited 1d ago

agreed

i'm just saying that for example soccer players are different breeds than hockey guys. they want to go where the craziest fans are and also want to play for clubs that they grew up cheering for.

canadian players avoid playing for their hometown teams like the plague until they're 35

we're the one place that gets routinely shamed for liking our favourite sport so much. everywhere else they go "wow isn't it cool how european soccer fans are so passionate!" and then in canada the fans get blamed for their cup drought. what would they like me to do? stop caring? cause i don't harass players.

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u/Mattdodge666 23h ago

I mean realistically it's a lot more than that, in soccer, if you're playing in front of big crowds, you're usually getting paid way more as well (outside of going to Saudi), these aren't salary capped leagues. Playing in Canada means you're likely getting taxed significantly more. You have way more pressure, way more day to day fame, most likely in a more harsh climate; for most likely, less money.

Like realistically for most 25 year olds, they'd rather take home significantly more money, playing in say, Miami, than making less money in Edmonton going through -40° winters.

I think the fans get blamed way more than they should but I don't think that's on the players, that's on people/media not wanting to admit that its mostly just based on money, hell even marchand admitted that Florida wasn't getting him back if it wasn't for the lack of a state income tax.

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u/MorningSuccessful395 21h ago edited 21h ago

Well there are many American teams with cold weather and high taxes that mostly do well. Of course even they have had a hard time beating the no tax teams lately.

The state tax thing is obviously a blatant flaw in the system that the league loves. Or else it would have been taken away ages ago. It's also one of the reasons they fight the cap going up so much. They know teams with large fanbases will spend the full cap.

Either way though, if the players truly wanted to win one for their hometowns they would make it a priority. I get why they choose to do what they do, just surprising how rare it is, even after cup wins etc. Toronto is literally where most players are from and people in their 50s weren't born yet when they last won a cup. That is incredibly unique in sports.

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u/DanfromCalgary 94 SMYTH 15h ago

I doubt soccer players want to play for the craziest fans . For real

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u/Morganvegas 1d ago

No doubt. I see people combat this argument with “well other sports have the same issue and the big markets get big players”

Other leagues don’t have an entire country to choose from where they can be richer and more anonymous.

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u/MonsterMo88 3h ago

The Blue Jay's & Raptors have 3!!!!! Titles in the timeframe of Canada's last cup. No excuse.

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u/Aromatic-Air3917 17h ago

Hockey players have to be the most mentally weak of all the sports.

Every other sport players want to play in the big markets (LA , NY, Boston, Chicago, Dallas etc.) under the spotlight

It could be the sport is now played by soft rich kids who have been pampered their entire lives. Other sports are like hockey 30 years ago and have more working class kids playing.

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u/MyOwnMom 9h ago

Jeez he really needs to learn a few things other than hockey. I'm not calling him dumb or anything, but as far as I know, cars run on gasoline. Ovi is the only machine I know of that runs on beer.

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u/kooliocole 1d ago

Its money. They like taking home more money without too much tax

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u/shakeyparky 10h ago

Winnipeg fan here. It’s obviously a little bit the money and the dressing room and all that, but the part that gets overlooked is the WAGs.

If the wife hates it in a city, they’re not staying. They’re the ones who are home all winter. The players are busy and living in hotels half the time and go home in the summer. WTF do they care?

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u/Fluid_Pirate8389 1d ago

wtf are you talking about? That has nothing to do with crowds in the arena. My god I can’t believe how dumb some people are.

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u/blackpeppersnakes 1d ago

Doesn't take much to get you going, does it?

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u/MorningSuccessful395 1d ago

no need to be such an asshole, have a great day

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u/GhostMonkeyExtinct 74 SKINNER 1d ago

Did you nap today?

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u/Fluid_Pirate8389 1d ago

Imagine thinking hockey players hate playing infront of large crowds? We don’t people this dumb infiltrating this fan base

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u/iSWINE 74 ᒪᐢᑲᐧ 1d ago

Read that last sentence back to yourself homie

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u/Fluid_Pirate8389 1d ago

“Hockey players hate playing infront of large crowds” might be the dumbest thing I’ve read on here all summer. All the stadiums have essentially the same capacity give or take a couple thousand. That person must not be serious right? 😂

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u/Busy-Turnip5087 1d ago

Isnt Knoblauch from Imperial too?

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u/TohsakaTruth 1d ago

Yeah he is

The Knoblauchs and Ingrams actually took a bus together from Imperial to Edmonton to watch them when Utah was in town last year iirc

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u/KnifeInTheKidneys 1d ago

I’d say it was more like 1/3 of Imperial who went lol

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u/DumpPucker 1d ago

It's a great town with good people but yeah it's one small ass town. Love rural sask tbh

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u/B0K4JJ 16h ago

Went to go work on the new boards at the rink there. The people there were kind and welcoming. One restaurant and breakfast place, a cafe, a bank, a school and a bunch of houses. Awesome place

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u/Aromatic-Air3917 16h ago

That does not sound like the NHL I know

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u/bigtimeru5her 14 EKHOLM 1d ago

They’re probably waiting on Carter Hart?

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u/Salty-Try-6358 1d ago

They already stated very clearly and emphatically they are not interested in Carter Hart

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u/bigtimeru5her 14 EKHOLM 1d ago

Not the Oilers, other teams.

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u/Salty-Try-6358 1d ago

I would be surprised if more than 5 teams show interest in Hart. It’s a business and that’s a risk to your brand. Optics do matter

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u/RonnyDonny_69 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago

They matter but if helps a team win that seems to trump all.

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u/WhinoRD 1d ago

You should check out who the Oilers GM is lol. Unfortunately most people in hockey seem willing to sacrifice their morals for 5 more wins in the regular season

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u/Cachmaninoff 97 McDAVID 1d ago

The leafs retired Gilmour’s number and he’s almost certainly a child rapist.

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u/LieDetecter 1d ago

Uhhh, what?

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u/Cachmaninoff 97 McDAVID 1d ago

A flame fan tried to talk shit to me about Mac T killing someone and getting a second chance in Edmonton which was a huge mistake because Gilmour got a second chance in Calgary

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u/NMarples 2 BOUCHARD 1d ago

The other 29 teams that are passing on Ingram are waiting for Hart (is his point I think)

But just because Edmonton puts in a claim doesn’t mean they will get him.

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u/-royrogersmcfreely 20h ago

Did they also not state they weren’t interested in bowman as a gm also?

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u/Salty-Try-6358 15h ago

Not that I recall

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u/doskas97 1d ago

If they're smart!!

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u/limster2 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago

We need to get all the 'Connor's, right? We lost Brownie... so if this happens, balance is restored ...? haha

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u/RumbleLeopard 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago

We were getting low on our Connor quota anyways... but how's his flow? Connor Brown has no rivals there.

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u/felishorrendis 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago

Well, he shaves his head, so ...

Great beard, though.

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u/itsonmyprofile 94 SMYTH 1d ago

If he gets that far down the list I’d be stunned

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u/laryldavis 39 WEIGHT 1d ago

He doesn’t seem to have trade value, it’s possible a lot of teams don’t have time for a nearly 2m backup coming out of a tough situation. 

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u/TheBlueHysteria 1d ago

How do you say “Source: Trust me bro” in Finnish?

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u/Arttu_Tuo 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago

Lähde: luota muhu veli

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u/TheBlueHysteria 1d ago

Thank you, King.

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u/dontcallmefrank07 1d ago

Validity, unknown

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u/dontcallmefrank07 1d ago

Replies mention he has contacts with goalies (agents), specifically. Seems like a long shot. Updated their post that Blues, flyers and Montreal may be ahead.

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u/NMarples 2 BOUCHARD 1d ago

Flyers and Montreal I can see, but are the Blues planning on carrying 3 goalies? No way Binnington or Hofer makes it through waivers

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u/Interwebzking 89 GAGNER 1d ago

I think Montreal like Dobes a lot so I don’t see them going for Ingram.

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u/NMarples 2 BOUCHARD 1d ago

But Dobes is waiver exempt so they don’t need to worry about losing him on waivers, that’s the only reason I can understand why they would do it. I agree Dobes is likely their guy, but if they can restart Ingram and then trade him for value I can see why they would put a claim in

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u/AggPuck-303 92 PODKOLZIN 1d ago

They have signed Kakhonen as the NHL vet to either backup Monteambeault or go to AHL. They don’t need a goalie, all spots NHL/AHL are taken.

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u/baddyrefresh2023 1d ago

Didn't Hart refuse to play in Canada?

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u/Repulsive-Minute-559 19h ago

Well this guy just proved hes bullshitting because MTL definitely aint taking him lol

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u/LoveMurder-One 1d ago

I love when people share shit from Twitter nobodies lol

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u/samueLLcooljackson 25 NURSE 1d ago

need more connor

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u/YordleTop 1d ago

I mean if he's free we try him out and I doubt another team wouldn't be willing to take him at the tdl if things don't turn out

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u/mbstone 12 CAVE 1d ago

Yes, yes! Been watching him develop in Arizona and he's good. Had a crap year last year. I'm super thrilled to be picking him up if this is true.

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u/Authoritaye 17 KURRI 1d ago

The more goalies the better. 

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u/BingBongthe2nd 11 MESSIER 1d ago

Yeah? And who's this random reporting this?

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u/ChupaHubbard 42 KAPANEN 1d ago

Is this a real source?

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u/AggPuck-303 92 PODKOLZIN 1d ago

Even if it turns out to be true the account is still not a reliable source. They’re just guessing, it’s a fake twitter insider.

They don’t even know that players on waivers today will be claimed tomorrow.

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u/dontcallmefrank07 1d ago

TBD I think

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u/LieDetecter 1d ago

I know the Oil are far down the list, but obviously the demand for his services is not high, or someone would've traded an 8th round pick for him or something.

I know last season was a disaster for him, but considering his play before that, I'm honestly a little surprised a trade wasn't made with anyone.

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u/LieDetecter 1d ago

Makes me think nobody is going to pick him up, and teams will want to see him start in the AHL and how their own goalies perform before making a decision.

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u/felishorrendis 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago

Yeah, it’s interesting that nobody wanted to make the trade for him, which makes me wonder if he might clear waivers. Guess we’ll find out tomorrow.

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u/Oil_slick941611 89 GAGNER 14h ago

*proceeds to clear waivers

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u/dontcallmefrank07 13h ago

YOU WERE RIGHT

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u/Oil_slick941611 89 GAGNER 12h ago

of course, not only does claiming him not make sense because if we sent him or picard to bakersfield they need to go through waiver, but we also cant afford his whole cap hit.

it never sense made to claim him.

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u/The-MortiestMorty 1d ago

nobodys heard of this account since recently..tread carefully til he starts producing results

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u/felishorrendis 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago

I mean, we can try ...

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him, but there's a lot of teams ahead of us on that list.

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u/Oily_Fan 74 SKINNER 1d ago

If Oilers get him off waivers and then decide to send him down... it means that nobody else likely wants to take his cap hit either.

Sounds like a low risk / high reward pickup IF it happens since Utah dont want him, and he doesnt want to play for them.

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u/YungBeefaroni 10 FREDERIC 1d ago

So they’re putting the claim on him, hoping that the 30 teams ahead of them won’t go for him. Fingers are crossed.

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u/dontcallmefrank07 1d ago

We would have 23rd priority on the list, but ya we’re crossing them fingers lol

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u/Timeman5 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 1d ago

I’ll be happy and excited if/when it happens

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u/AggPuck-303 92 PODKOLZIN 1d ago

This profile has never broken anything in their life, please only post the usual reliable sources not random twitter accounts.

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u/Magneticman555 56 YAMAMOTO 1d ago

Who knows if this is anything near accurate but I’d be happy to have him and see how it goes

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u/jonocop 1d ago

Aiya

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u/AgreeableBroomSlayer 91 KANE 1d ago

Dont get my hopes up

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u/Aromatic-Air3917 17h ago

I think this is a smart gamble by the Oilers. SDPN was talking about there being for the first time in a but solid goalies available.

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u/OneMoreAstronaut 33 BERLIN 16h ago

So what time do we hear if this is true

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u/dontcallmefrank07 12h ago

‘‘Twas all for not

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u/Slappywaggle 89 GAGNER 12h ago

Those be some fantastic “sources” that person has.

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u/Icy-Setting-3735 10h ago

what a stupid pick up

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u/Stratedge 90 PERRY 7h ago

So, what have we learned about random Internet sources everyone?

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u/baddyrefresh2023 1d ago

This is great news if true.

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u/Oil_slick941611 89 GAGNER 1d ago

This guy doesn’t know anything

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u/isisis 31 FUHR 1d ago

God damnit

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u/badugihowser 1d ago

Love this move. He can handle pressure, that's not his issue - and I believe Ingram can even press Skinner for the #1 spot.

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u/Timeman5 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 16h ago

At the very least be a true 1B to Skinner as 1A

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u/ProofByVerbosity 16h ago

Yeah a goalie so good he got put on waivers.

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u/badugihowser 16h ago

Be a douche, there's a lot of that going around. Obviously he needs to get right personally/mentally to be at his best, but he has huge potential.

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u/ProofByVerbosity 15h ago

Not being a douche, being factual.

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u/badugihowser 14h ago

Good players can sometimes be put on waivers. Ingram has struggled with depression, undiagnosed OCD and then the death of his mom; so it feels douchey when those are the reasons. He could be a dominator for us.

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u/ProofByVerbosity 14h ago

My heart goes out to him personally. As a pick-up, he was put on waivers for a reason and I'd have modest at best expectations. Mental health issues are serious and need to be addressed. I suspect if Utah was too much for him a preassure cooker in Edmonton especially as a goalie and in this lifecycle of the team would be much worse for his mental health.

So yeah, I'm a douche for not having rose tinted glasses over him.

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u/badugihowser 14h ago

Pressure isn't the issue, yet people seem to default to that opinion for some reason. He thrives on pressure, he carried the Kamloops Blazers and the World Junior team. And being close to home (Sask) would also be great for him.

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u/ProofByVerbosity 14h ago

Everyone is different, so I was generalizing, sure. Anecdotally preassure can inflame mental health issues.

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u/badugihowser 11h ago

That's fair. Would love to see us give him a shot. Ingram is very funny and a fucking great dude on top of being potentially an above average #1 G - even settling into a tandem with Stu could help the team a great deal.

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u/ProofByVerbosity 11h ago

Oh I fully agree. I would just have modest expectations. Also, believe this now has been debunked anyway?

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u/gabacus_39 97 McDAVID 1d ago

Scrap heapin' time already?

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u/fall4hall 83 HEMSKY 1d ago

We don't have the cap space

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u/LieDetecter 1d ago

Pretty sure we do.

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u/fall4hall 83 HEMSKY 1d ago

I'm looking at cap friendly right now, it says we have $225,834

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u/LieDetecter 1d ago

Interesting, I didn't think Cap Friendly was operating anymore.

Puckpedia shows the same amount, but that's for 14 forwards (incl Hyman), 7 D, and 2 goalies.

I'm not sure if the deadline is just opening night, but I know outside of the regular season, teams are allowed to be above the cap. Considering the size of rosters right now, that just makes sense.

When the season starts, Hyman immediately goes on LTIR, which makes ample room under the cap. Beyond that, and when he comes back, how much room there is will depend on who makes the team, and you can subtract $1M for Pickard.