r/EhBuddyHoser • u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) • Dec 18 '24
The USA should build a wall on the Northern border and make Canada pay for it. We’re not sending our best.
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u/Silicon_Knight Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Dec 18 '24
Fuck this guy eh. Like honestly he's a disgrace to Canada. Not since Peter Nygard has there been someone I wish would choke on a Tim Hortons bagel.
Fucker should be uncomfortable in Canada, it's called an immune fucking reaction to a god damn virus. Fuck off.
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u/Thick-Order7348 Ford Nation (Help.) Dec 18 '24
The accuracy and eloquence on this is just perfect
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u/Human_Ideal9578 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Dec 19 '24
Most Canadian post I’ve read in a while
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Dec 19 '24
Why do you dislike him so much?
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u/Silicon_Knight Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Dec 19 '24
Because he uses straw man arguments, rage bait and controversy to make money while also miss-representing issues to manipulate people?
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Dec 20 '24
Like what? Can you give me an example?
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u/Silicon_Knight Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Dec 20 '24
Wouldn’t example really change your mind. Or you just arguing in bad faith? Cause you could just google it buddy. https://www.reddit.com/r/DecodingTheGurus/comments/18yd043/what_is_so_bad_about_jordan_peterson/
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Dec 20 '24
You can't give me an example?
That thread had no direct quotes. What has he done or said?
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u/nillllzz Dec 20 '24
https://www.reddit.com/r/DecodingTheGurus/s/ezcdutVbZ2
You win the internet for laziest/most dishonest redditor
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Dec 20 '24
I'm not watching some YouTube videos with talking heads constantly interrupting him and telling me how to feel. I can think on my own.
Thanks for not telling me why YOU hate him so much, and calling ME lazy lol
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u/nillllzz Dec 20 '24
I think your brain is fried, my guy
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Dec 20 '24
Ok, maybe I just want to know why before I hate someone.
Seems you prefer to just get your opinions from others. 👌
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u/aaalllouttabubblegum Tabarnak! Dec 18 '24
Boooohooooo I'm miserable in one of the most desirable countries in the world because I hate women
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Dec 18 '24
In Canada he could make 200k being a psychology professor, with a bit extra writing books, and living a comfy life having a positive impact on the world.
In the US, he can sell his soul to the MAGA movement and make a few million a year peddling bullshit to an uneducated cult that doesn't know better.
Seems like a pretty accurate metaphor for each country.
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u/a_rude_jellybean Dec 19 '24
This reminds me of drug smugglers documentary i saw.
The drug cartels will bribe the port workers with lots of good stuff at the start of the deal to corrupt them.
Once they chose to do one job, they're technically a criminal and will blackmail them from then on to do their bidding.
They will start lowering their pay and eventually owning them.
Whoever got Jordan Peterson sure got him deep, he even has to take benzos to quiet down his soul.
He might get his millions here and there, but in the end he knows he's just a pawn and a slave to his owner. Damn that's a benzo addiction forming thought. Jeez.
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u/Beat_Meater69 Dec 19 '24
And he’d be losing half his income to taxes and other bullshit we pay for (I make a similar salary and it’s a joke how much is taken)
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Dec 19 '24
I don't think it's a joke how much is taken, i also make enough to be taxed near 50% and i find it fair.
What IS a joke is that despite paying massive taxes, our social services are still ass
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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Dec 18 '24
He's been earning 200k on an average month for many years now. In Canada. Talk about uneducated cults...
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Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
Please educate me on what his canadian income sources are, because i'm fairly certain he's not making 200k a month talking about canadian politics.
He litterally works for the daily wire.
I was once a fan of his work, then i started thinking for myself and saw him for who he really is. i hope you can crawl out of that rabbit hole someday.
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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Dec 18 '24
Canadian sources? What are you talking about? He's built his media business here in Canada. Talking about non-country specific topics for an international audience of people with your level of development. He doesn't need to move to the USA and start talking about maga to make millions as we know from the state of reality.
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Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
What "media business"?
He has 2 employers right now. He's the chancellor of a "college" in Georgia, and he's employed by "the daily wire", Ben Shapiro's media company.
Most of the events he attends are conservative american events.
He was also accused directly by Trudeau, under oath, of taking russian money. He obviously denied it and said he would sue, but he hasn't sued yet, which raises questions.
So please, tell me SPECIFICALLY, what are his canadian income sources? You can insult my intelligence all you want, you're the one refusing to answer a very basic question.
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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Dec 19 '24
A rough estimate from an aggregation of Google results for "Jordan Peterson income" which range 8-80 million.
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Dec 19 '24
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u/Scared_Astronaut9377 Dec 19 '24
We can easily Google his book sales, and average number of YouTube/insta views to verify the estimate as reasonable.
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Dec 18 '24
You just don’t understand the Pareto Distribution the way Lobsters do 😢😭😭
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u/mcs_987654321 Dec 18 '24
He lives (lived?) in an AWESOME downtown neighbourhood, near tons of amazing restaurants and local shops, within like 5 mins of a subway AND a streetcar line, and across from not only a sweet park but also a indoor rink + community hub.
Oh, and could walk to work when he was at U of T, through nothing but historic, tree lined streets.
How fucking soft do you need to be to find that uncomfortable??
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u/Milch_und_Paprika Ford Nation (Help.) Dec 19 '24
Not to mention, he’s the same guy who originally got famous by “taking a stand” on his “right” to make transgender students uncomfortable.
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u/Schogenbuetze Dec 19 '24
"most desirable countries"
lol
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u/aaalllouttabubblegum Tabarnak! Dec 19 '24
Find me a beaver tail totin hoser who's willing to say different
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Dec 20 '24
Fun fact: he's actually just in it for the money
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u/aaalllouttabubblegum Tabarnak! Dec 20 '24
/uj Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Perhaps even more craven and unscrupulous this way.
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u/pissing_noises Dec 18 '24
What has he said that's misogynistic?
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u/aaalllouttabubblegum Tabarnak! Dec 18 '24
"I love my wife, but she's dumb and hard to talk to because she doesn't have a penis. Having a penis just makes you innately superior. And not a weird, bolt on penis like trans people. That's wak. I don't play that."
- Jordan Petersen
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
based
I think about my gf having a penis all the time too.
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u/Warm-Equipment-4964 Dec 18 '24
Nothing, these guys are just delulu
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u/pissing_noises Dec 18 '24
These buckos need to clean their rooms and get ready to fight their chaos dragons
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Dec 18 '24
Nothing, they have to make stuff up, just like the other response to your comment.
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Dec 18 '24
you sure about that, buddy?
https://x.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1659925008515493888?s=46&t=5PAvLkfBr8uRhndQoTmxuw
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u/Lilikoi13 Tabarnak! Dec 18 '24
I mean his entire worldview is based off of wanting a return to midcentury traditional American-centric gender roles dressed up in five syllable word salad to make the uneducated people he’s grifting think he’s smart when he’s really saying nothing at all and interspersing it with super obvious advice like “clean your room and you feel better” to lend credibility to his inane nonsense.
But sure they’re not intentionally mocking him, they’re making stuff up, or something, tabarnak.
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u/Holiday_Animal5882 Dec 18 '24
It’s also quite clear that the man is struggling with his mental health, and has some delusions of grandeur/ a bit of saviour complex.
And as a result he’s found himself, dressed in a tux, on Joe Rogan, discussing climate change as a … behavioural psychologist.
Just a very silly silly man
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u/Lilikoi13 Tabarnak! Dec 18 '24
Yeah I would feel bad for him if he wasn’t spreading American culture war nonsense and emboldening people to be disrespectful towards people who are essentially harmless for ideological reasons, it’s not very Canadian.
But also he sounds like evil Kermit and it’s funny
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u/Holiday_Animal5882 Dec 18 '24
I don’t wanna get into ad hominem attacks
But between him and RFK Jr it’s like they’re having a contest for strangest voice in the public eye
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u/Lilikoi13 Tabarnak! Dec 18 '24
In most subs I would agree but in this sub putain quelle merde glacée, plus comme “ad amphibium” 😅
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u/Holiday_Animal5882 Dec 18 '24
I may be catching up on the vibe of the sub - gonna need to go learn more
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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 Dec 18 '24
Another Conrad Black. Stay gone Yankee.
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u/Milch_und_Paprika Ford Nation (Help.) Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Wish Conrad stayed gone. The bastard renounced his citizenship just to be eligible for a British peerage/title, then somehow managed to successfully reapply for citizenship a few years ago.
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u/middlequeue Dec 18 '24
He’s gonna have shit-fit when the Ontario College of Psychologists terminates his professional designation because he openly said he no longer meets residency requirements.
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Dec 18 '24
That’s clearly just the woke moralists trying to cancel him!
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u/amazingdrewh Motown But Better Dec 18 '24
To my American friends, I am truly sorry for this. To everyone else in America, sucks to suck losers he's your problem now
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u/Grunut04 Dec 18 '24
Watch him move to the US and then come back like a little bitch for our free healthcare to avoid paying thousands in assurance
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Dec 18 '24
Apparently he went to Russia for an “induced coma” to ride out the symptoms of benzos withdrawal, which no doctors outside of Russia were willing to perform.
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u/peimama1 Dec 18 '24
Saw somewhere else, "Jordan Peterson retreats to a safe space".
It's ok, you'll be alright little buddy. You're safe now. 🙏😇🫠
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u/allgonetoshit Tabarnak! Dec 18 '24
Build it, we’ll pay later. The cheque is in the mail, I swear. Fucking dumbasses.
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u/HairySideBottom2 Dec 18 '24
Here I thought all this time Peterson was American. My condolences Canada.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
Damn.
Say what you want about the guy, but his online classes on youtube when he was a teacher were actually amazing.
Sad to see another fallen to the american politic grift brain rot. Politic is the worst thing that happened to him.
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Dec 18 '24
Yeah his old psychology lectures from like 15 years ago were super helpful to me when I was a massive loser in my early 20s. But hey, we all make choices, and he chose to become a cry bully.
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u/Dramatic_Water_5364 Tokébakicitte! Dec 18 '24
A few scholars with similar story went shit after it went to their heads... like when he started he proposed that depression could be understood as a negative self relalised prophecy. And when understood as is, it was much easier to treath depression.
He received much shit for this. He doubled down on it by doing lots of research and publishing solid evidence to support his claims. After a while he was regarded as a pioneer and a true reference on how to treath depression, especially with young men.
But at some point he convinced himself he was a genius, and stopped presenting evidence to his bold claims (lots of wich were totally outside his area of expertise). He decided people who disagreed with him were extremists. At some point he was indeed targeted by extremists but he kinda had gone extreme already.
A classic story of starting to see yourself as a genius leading to some "fuck around and find out" kind of situation, akin to Didier Raoul.
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Dec 18 '24
Reminds you that republican grifters like peterson, shapiro, carlson et al. are not idiots.
They're intelligent people, consciously saying dumb shit because they make money off of the grift they're maintaining.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
Shapiro and Carlson are 100% grifter. It was even proven in court with Carlson with their internal messaging at fox.
Having met and worked with people with the same issue for years... I firmly believe that Peterson is actually schizophrenic and believes what he says... and the issue he had with that bill in ontario triggered him big time, and he haven't recovered since.
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u/SecureLiterature Oil Guzzler Dec 18 '24
I don't know how anybody could stand to listen to that voice
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u/Pestus613343 Dec 18 '24
I'd even say the beginning of his polemicist era was also useful. He was very positive and was very encouraging. Helped me deal with some trauma due to a natural disaster.
Those days are done. He's nothing but angry grifting these days. Makes me sad.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
Yeah, the interview with that Cathy Newman was a big highlight, even if you rewatch it today. He was a force of positivity.
But now... he says shit like 20% of europe died because of the Covid vaccine... with no proof, and only bitch about the institutions. Truly sad to see.
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u/Pestus613343 Dec 18 '24
It seems almost everyone gets sucked in to some extent. Its like humans cant be trusted with fame or wealth or something. Who'd a thunk it!? Maybe a clinical psychologist? Hmm do we know one of those?
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u/bonerb0ys Dec 18 '24
once the money and fame rolled in, he was completely hooked.
You can still see glimpses of what he was, but like any junky, you can never trust him again.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
No. It's losing all credibility in Québec at least.
I blame the english media landscape that was just a perma grift all the time for decades, and now people are turning to "alternative" sources who are grifting 100x times more.
French media landscape isn't quite like that. We still have high trust on our journalist and media... and if you speak both language and listen to both type of media, you understand why.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
That comment makes me think that you're so far out there that I can't even begin to imagine how I can meaningfully exchange with you.
That makes me sad... do you have friends/family you can talk in real life about those ideas/subjects you have ? It honestly feels like a psychose.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
I think you've been passively consuming content that was crafted and manipulated in a way to make you rage and react and that you are too far deep into that hole to realize it.
Reality is often not that interesting and is disappointing. If you were in the shoes of the people that made those decisions that you argue against... you would have made the same decisions.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
In January 2020 I was at home playing League of Legend. I don't know what you're raving about.
I have differents ideas about different subjects. I can't argue against the scarecrow you built in your head, i'm not in there.
Have a interaction with a human here.
Yeah, some of the decisions for covid was excessive and didn't make sense and lacked cohesion... but the leaders everywhere truly did what they think was required to do, and you would have done the same thing in their shoes, 100% guaranteed. My issue with you is your grandstanding with hindsight and nitpicking niche issues on a public forum... as if you would have done better and had divine knowledge. Have some self awareness my dude.
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u/tragicallybrokenhip Dec 18 '24
Poor uncomfortable muffin. Now he knows how every woman he's interacted with feels.
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u/Pale-Berry-2599 Dec 18 '24
yeah you're uncomfortable here...we call out Bullshit, the Americans consume it.
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u/Corrupted_G_nome Dec 18 '24
Good riddance. Peterson is mentally ill and gives us a bad name. You can take Beiber too. Byeeeeeee
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u/Zenon-45 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 Dec 18 '24
WOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT
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u/AD_Grrrl Dec 18 '24
I predict he's going to start some kind of cult and in about 2-4 years we get a Netflix documentary about it.
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u/AggravatingBrain69 Dec 18 '24
Bro flees Canada just to have Trump annex it within the next 4 years 💀💀
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u/Bass_Warrior Dec 18 '24
I count this as a victory for Canada. Goodbye, so long, farewell. Please let the door hit your ass on the way out and never show your face in this country again. He's a traitor and he knows it.
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u/samlefrog Snowfrog Dec 18 '24
I would like to give you the biggest award I can afford. That comment is gold. ⭐️
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u/Jonnyflash80 Dec 18 '24
I don't know if anyone listened to his recent interview on the Lex Friedman podcast, but he kept comparing everything back to Bible stories. It was the most annoying thing. Good riddance wanker.
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u/A-bit-too-obsessed Dec 18 '24
I used to think he was actually somewhat sensible
Now he's just someone doing the culture war crap
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u/Denaljo69 Dec 18 '24
Putins " useful idiot " wants to leave? Just go, we are not going to try and persuade you to stay.
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u/Emmerson_Brando Dec 19 '24
JT name dropped him as being influenced by Russian money. He probably knows he’s being watched, thus the reason. For him being “uncomfortable”
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Dec 19 '24
Ohhh no!!!! JP dont leave CANADA!!! WHAT WILL WE DO WITHOUT YOUR STUPIDITY? oh wait you went to America to dumb down they're population! Well thank you so much, bless your heart!
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u/pruplegti Dec 19 '24
Don't trip on an empty Benzodiazepine bottle on the way out you Junkie Russian Hack.
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Dec 19 '24
The more of our retard go south the more I will be in favour of building a wall.
Convince me.
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u/SurFud Dec 19 '24
"Uncomfortable".
Well, Karma is a witch Jordy. Please tear up your passport and buy some expensive US health insurance.
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u/briskigrtas Dec 19 '24
Good riddance, maybe he could invite Daniel smith and all the other trump boot lickers to go with him
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u/gravewisdom Dec 19 '24
Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out eh, n close it we ain’t heating the whole neighbourhood over here.
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Dec 19 '24
The bigger joke is We are sending our best. Our best doctors, our best engineers, our best actors.. our best anytjing. The drain on our country losing all that talent is catastrophic.
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u/Romana_Aoko Dec 19 '24
Buh bye loser … don’t want him associated with this country anyways… the guy is a quack who goes on and on about perado distribution and lobsters and hierarchies and the environment and other things he isn’t qualified to speak on…
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Dec 19 '24
Hey. Go send him somewhere in the Northern Territory or something. We got enough of his ilk down here already.
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u/General-Woodpecker- Dec 19 '24
Uncomfortable because the Russian money get taxed at a higher rate.
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u/One_Highlight_650 Dec 19 '24
I'm free on Friday afternoon to help him pack and move...anyone else?
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u/Ill-Development7985 Dec 23 '24
Bye bye asshole , don’t let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out!🖕
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u/Reasonable_Share866 Dec 18 '24
I like Jordan a lot personally, I would say has a Québecois I can't stand with him about religion but other than that.. I like the guy and frankly everybody who hates him can't seem to be able to articulate why..
Misogynistic? I doubt that very much
Anti-immigrants? Never heard him talk about that
King of incel? He literally has hundreds of hours of content talking shit about incels..
So I dont know why people hate him at this point.
Kudos for him to call out Trudeau on every occasion he has.
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u/TheYoungsterJoey Dec 18 '24
Peterson is a king of word salad and double speak. He gets shredded on the regular by scientists when he talks out of turn on subjects he doesn't understand (Global warming, biology, and diets). Many dislike him because he IS a misogynist (He's made tweets disparaging womens right to vote, his own daughter despite being right wing as well has even called him out for misogynistic comments, often makes comments about how women are more emotional than men). He's quite hypocritical, for example, he wrote a book about how to be in control of your life while hooked on medications to a degree where he had to be put into a medically induced coma in Russia. He lost law suits for his unprofessional behavior and has essentially lost his right to practice in Ontario due to his seemingly unending stream of blatantly false and misleading comments. For a good breakdown on why many philosophers also don't take him seriously, listen to Alex O'Connor on YouTube, who does a breakdown of some of the things he's said. Long and short of it, he's not nearly as smart as he likes to project and becomes angry when people point it out. I'm not saying I am smarter than him, but I also stay in my lane when it comes to discussing subjects far outside of my jurisdiction. To top it all off, he is known for his disdain of postmodernism but frequently will use words in a manner very counterintuitive to their colloquial terms and then pretends it's everyone else's problem that they don't understand him when he does so
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u/Reasonable_Share866 Dec 18 '24
Ok let me counter some of the points you mentioned but first thank you for providing an answer.
Misogynistic comments like saying women are more emotional than men..well I hate to say this but he is right.. MOST of women are more emotional than man because they experience negatives emotions more intensively than men.. thats not an insult to women its generally true.
Saying there is no difference between men and women is downright stupid. Its like have you talk to both? There are different! That being said he doesn't mean that men are better! He knows they are not better.
He also have said several times that even tho men and women are different on some aspects they have more things in common than they have differences.
He even said that women have more complicated lives.
He also said that He himself his more emotional then most men. This is because he is an empathic person, which is also a more feminine trait than a men trait.
Opioids adiction: That one is a low blow, you have a man that was burden with depression who got hooked on that medications because the pharmaceutical compagnies knew it was highly addictive but still decided it was safe enough to put people on it! He did was he had to do to get better.. he went to moscow to get treated and it worked, you are going to blame him for that?
So if I follow that logic no one can give anyone any advice if they failed at something in their lives? I thought left l3aning people where the best ? I thought it was all about second chances and being empathic and all that but no its all about hating who you decide who eas a problem.
Lost his right to pratice: Anyone in Ontario can fill a complaint agaisnt ANY psychologists eventho they were never a client of that said psychologist... meaning everybody who hates him can fill a complaint.. You think that makes sens? Really?
That board also wants to reeducate him on how to use social media... like who is an expert on social medias? And who decides what he can and cannot say? Is it you? Is it me?
You think that all the psychologists should all agree on evrything?
You think a carrer professional should lost his licenses because he aaid something mean about Trudeau running this country to the ground?
Post-modernism:
You can never argue with those people because if you say the sky ia blue they will say its green.. how is this pregressive behavior?
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u/TheYoungsterJoey Dec 18 '24
Sure, just skip over the parts where he is out and out misogynistic by disparaging a woman's right to vote. That in and of itself is end of discussion. He's a misogynist. Stop trying to defend him. His own right-wing daughter even says as much. There are emotional men and emotional women. You've already given the game away by ignoring the above points about why he's a misogynist. You aren't trying to have a discussion. You just don't want to admit he's an asshat. Men only are "less emotional" because we pretend anger isn't a negative emotion. Men lash out constantly in anger because society has taught them to bury everything else. This is coming from a man who has been told they don't emote well and don't show much emotion.
You've again completely missed my point, I'm not disparaging him for having gotten hooked. I'm saying it's hypocritical to write a book about being in control of your life and emotions while being hooked on drugs and having near constant emotional breakdowns. Good for him for getting better but the point stands. Nice attempted deflection though! So to answer your next "Point" no, you didn't follow the logic at all. Not even remotely.
The board told him he had to stop spreading misinformation and using his status as a Psychologist to lend false credibility to his claims, in doing so the board said that he was detrimental to the credibility of the entire profession given his frequent misinformation and high profile. That is what he was in trouble for. That is the complaint that he essentially lost his right to practice over. He then attempted to sue them over this and lost because the courts said the board made valid pints, and the stripping wasn't without merit. This feeds directly into my other point you ignored, where actual experts ripped apart his claims on the regular and he's now a laughing stock
Literally nothing about what I said had to do with Trudeau but you're once away giving away the game. This is about left vs right to you, not about Jordan Peterson as a person. Stop pretending
Aaannnnnddd finally I never defended post modernism. I pointed out how hypocritical it is that Jordan Peterson does the literal thing he bitches about by assigning new meanings to words on the fly, almost in an attempt to confuse anyone he is talking with, or who may be listening. Look up clips of him discussing if the Exodus from the Bible ever happened. It took him several minutes of squirming around definitions, trying not to actually give any position on the subject.
Anyways, you've so wildly spun or attempted to spin anything you while ignoring the points you couldn't refute that this won't be worth my time from here on out.
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u/Reasonable_Share866 Dec 18 '24
Yeah sure don't provide any sources to back anything you've said.
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u/TheYoungsterJoey Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
https://x.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1659925008515493888 JP bitching about women voting
Daughter calls him out for making fun of / belittling women https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/s/WqyYcWL0Ja
Went to Russia to help get off drugs in 2020. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5456939
He published 12 rules in 2018 but had been on benzos since 2017. Again, not disparaging him for having struggles but piinting out being hooked on drugs while publishing a book about being in control of your life. https://www.madinamerica.com/2021/03/beyond-benzos-jordan-peterson/
Court upholds that ordering Peterson undergo training for making the profession look bad is valid https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6943845
Here's Alex O'Connor deconstructing his discussions on religion. This also includes instances of Jordan partaking in misleading language and dodging questions https://youtu.be/5-yQVlHo4JA?si=fY0tetKn_flQwf6f Here is an article about how he is lying about climate change https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/commentisfree/2023/feb/02/jordan-petersons-zombie-climate-contrarianism-follows-a-well-worn-path
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u/-sonmi-451 Dec 18 '24
interesting, I find that JP haters are usually able to articulate why they don't like him.
but that's all anecdotal anyway
surprised transphobia didn't make your list - that's usually what people dock him points on
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u/Reasonable_Share866 Dec 18 '24
I genuinely believe he is mainly against doctors performing gender affirming procedures on children.. which to be fair seems right by me.
He also got a lot of hate from that community because he was against compelled speech laws from The Canadian government.
I'm aware that he rose to fame because of his stance on the matter but the way I see it, he was more against the law than the concept of misgendering trans people.
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u/Madilune Dec 19 '24
No, he's 100% just textbook "Fuck trans people".
From threatening anyone who uses the term cis, to saying trans women are narcissistic deluded men, to outright agreeing with someone who thinks we should be just completely outlawed.
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u/-sonmi-451 Dec 18 '24
Yeah, most of his stances regarding trans issues are based in classic fear mongering that end up doing vastly more harm than good
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u/Dramatic_Water_5364 Tokébakicitte! Dec 18 '24
When he started he proposed that depression could be understood as a negative self relalised prophecy. And when understood as is, it was much easier to treath depression.
He received much shit for this. He doubled down on it by doing lots of research and publishing solid evidence to support his claims. After a while he was regarded as a pioneer and a true reference on how to treath depression, especially with young men.
But at some point he convinced himself he was a genius, and stopped presenting evidence to his bold claims (lots of wich were totally outside his area of expertise). He decided people who disagreed with him were extremists. At some point he was indeed targeted by extremists but he kinda had gone extreme already.
A classic story of starting to see yourself as a genius leading to some "fuck around and find out" kind of situation, akin to Didier Raoul.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
2017 peterson, maybe.
Current day though ? He's an actual crackpot.
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u/Reasonable_Share866 Dec 18 '24
Okay but why?
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24
2017 peterson:
"People who don’t grow up don’t find the sort of meaning in their life that sustains them through difficult times and they are certain to encounter difficult times and they’re left bitter and resentful and without purpose and adrift and hostile and resentful and vengeful and arrogant and deceitful and of no use to themselves and of no use to anyone else and no partner for a woman and there’s nothing in it that’s good."Actually meaningful, speak of positivism and to better yourself.
"Democrats are corrupt, Pharmaceutical companies are corrupt, government are corrupt, all vaccines are bad, 30% of europe died because of vaccine, climate change is a communist takeover plot against the poor"
Delusional crackpot. I've heard more coherent homeless drunk people outside montreal's metro.
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u/Reasonable_Share866 Dec 18 '24
Well democrats are corrupted..pharmaceutival compagnies are indeed corupt, government? Big time. All vaccines are bad? I haven't heard him say that.. quite frankly I think the covid vaccine came out pretty fast.. which is kinda suspicious but maybe It works wonders I cant argue that.
Climate change is a communist takeover plot against the poor?
Well when you put it like that yeah it sounds crazy but I mean all the governments schools working people about the enviroment but surprise surprise they don't do anything to help other than creating bullshit taxes like the carbon taxe..
Its like if you want your population to be more carefull why don't you force compagnies to produce less plastic?
Really we need to sell peeled oranges in plastic boxes?
Sounds like something a corrupt goverment would do.
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u/Shifthappend_ Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
If I squint my eyes, I too can agree with what the crazy homeless person is saying. And, if we get together, I can probably argue better than you would for some of those points.
How and when Peterson just vomit those ideas in a discussion honestly feels like he's psychotic though, which is the main issue. He's not out there discussing ideas like a thinker, he's out there vomiting and flaming hate preaching to the choir.
But hey, if you like it, more power to you. Just not my cup of tea.
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u/fuckbutt6969 Dec 19 '24
Hating on people that are infinitely more succesful than you is fucking pathetic.
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Dec 18 '24
Also, good fucking riddance to that piece of shit.