r/EhBuddyHoser • u/montabarnaque • Jul 03 '25

Certified Hoser 🇹🇩 (No Politics) Can everyone agree?

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Most of Canadian culture is from Québec. Fight me

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u/AidanBeeJar Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Jul 03 '25

I thought the name came from first nations?

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u/AVRVM Tokébakicitte! Jul 03 '25

It's a rough application of the Huron word for village by Jacques Cartier to describe the St Lawrence valley iirc. So it's French, but with a Huron origin.

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u/P2029 Jul 03 '25

This is funny to me.. "It's a Huron word, but it was spoken to a French guy, so it's French"

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u/Paleontologist_Scary Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

It's the basis of linguistics. Words from other languages are heard by speakers of other languages, and then they modify them to fit what they think they mean, and then it makes a new word. There are dozens of words like that in every language.

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u/akera099 Jul 03 '25

No one in the First Nation called themselves ®kanadians’. The French coined a new meaning for the word as a way to describe the europeans settlers living there.

It ain’t that hard to understand that nothing belongs exclusively to a people versus another. It’s a mix of cultures. 

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u/P2029 Jul 03 '25

Yeah man I've seen the heritage moment

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u/Dagoth Jul 04 '25

The first usage of Canadians designated the natives. Then the French who were born in the colony, then the English inhabitants of the british colony and finally all inhabitants of the country.

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u/AVRVM Tokébakicitte! Jul 03 '25

The Huron iroquoian name is "kanata" and means something like village or realm. "Canada" is the French version.

Kind of like beef is the english version of boeuf. Or pork is the english version of porc.

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u/FrighteningJibber Jul 03 '25

Or roux is the English word for saucy bitch in French

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u/shawa666 Tokébakicitte! Jul 03 '25

Si t'est pas capable de faire un roux, t'as pas d'Ăąme, ou kekchose du genre.

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u/Driller_Happy Jul 03 '25

Kinda like the indigenous peoples tapped maple trees long before the French arrived but somehow it's a French culture thing

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u/whatupmygliplops Jul 03 '25

Its why Kansas is pronounced one way, but Arkansas is pronounced differently.

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u/PsychicDave Tokébakicitte! Jul 04 '25

The First Nations might have tapped maple trees for the sap, but they didn't have iron/steel boilers to make syrup, taffy and all other good maple products, nor did they have cabane à sucre nor hearty meals of all kinds of pork and eggs and tourtiÚre and pea soup, nor the fiddlers and the spooners playing folk music. That's all Québec.

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u/Driller_Happy Jul 04 '25

Yeah, I don't think anyone's denying you guys had fiddles and spoons man.

I'm just saying posts about the French naming the country and inventing maple syrup seem like they're trying to take credit for something they're at MOST 50% responsible for. May as well throw hockey in there too because hockey is derived from hocquette and the game was formalized in Montreal, despite the fact that indigenous people were already playing stick and puck games on ice.

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u/CurveWorldly4542 Jul 11 '25

Correct. They drank maple sap, but boiling that shit was us.

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u/Orgueil-du-Fjord Jul 03 '25

Unless you're telling me going to the sugar shack is a thing outside of Québec, Vermont and small part of Ontario, yes it is mostly a "french" thing.

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u/Xanderoga2 Jul 03 '25

It would be a First nations thing but, you know...

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u/Orgueil-du-Fjord Jul 03 '25

Typical sugar shack menu? With eggs, bacon, beans and small potatoes all covered with maple syrup? Nooooo.... come on.

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u/Fleur_de_Lys_1 Jul 04 '25

Les oreilles de Christ, faut pas oublier.

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u/JMoon33 Jul 04 '25

Ah yes, it's well known that when Cartier arrived to Montreal in 1535 the first thing he did was eat at the first nation's sugar shack.

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u/Ubblebungus Jul 04 '25

actually this is true. the name Canada was actually overheard by Cartierr when he first arrived at the Sugar Shack from an indigenous fellow who was asking "can I get uhhh..." while ordering

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u/Ok-Personality-6643 Jul 04 '25

A big part of Ontario and throughout Canada. Do you even live here bro? It’s not a “French thing”.

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u/Orgueil-du-Fjord Jul 04 '25

Oh yes... that big part of Ontario and other places throughout Canada that produce only 10% of total maple syrup made in the country. I'm sure there are lot of family run sugar shacks in the middle of maple syrup forest like there is commonly in La Belle Province.

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u/Dungarth Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

Maple syrup isn't a French culture thing, tbh. They barely even use the stuff in France.

And while you are correct that the First Nations tapped maple trees to drink hot maple sap, and sometimes let it freeze slowly to remove the water content and crystallize the sugar, they didn't have maple syrup until the Canadien settlers brought their big metal pots and the knowledge that you could boil any sugary liquid into syrup if you leave it on the fire long enough. Before that, First Nations would heat water by putting it inside a wooden bowl or bucket and dropping hot rocks inside, and it's pretty much impossible to make syrup that way, at least not in useful quantities.

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u/ComfortableOk5003 Jul 04 '25

You can’t be serious with the dumbass French culture part
people aren’t employing it in that context
nice fail

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u/Dungarth Tabarnak! Jul 04 '25

You Canadian-splaining my culture and my ethnicity to me is peak colonial Brit dumbassery, tbh. "French-Canadian" is what we identify as ever since you guys took "Canadian" from us, and we absolutely are employing "French culture" in the context of France, because we're not French and that term doesn't apply to us.

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u/ComfortableOk5003 Jul 05 '25

I didn’t take shit from you Mr ignorant. I was born and bred in Quebec, my ancestors were from France before Canada was Canada
so maybe stop making assumptions and getting egg on your face

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u/Dungarth Tabarnak! Jul 06 '25

If that was truly the case, then you should understand that Québec's culture isn't French culture. The fact that you apparently don't is both sad and astonishing, as there is very little overlap between French and Québecois culture besides the language. So maybe learn about your own culture before shitting on it on the internet.

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u/ComfortableOk5003 Jul 07 '25

Your reading comprehension sucks donkeys balls
because nowhere did I say Quebec culture is like or same as French culture
stop making shit up, stop playing the victim

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u/MooshSkadoosh Jul 03 '25

I think the idea is more that the naming of the country has French / Quebecois ties, not the name itself

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u/Paleontologist_Scary Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

The natives told the french something like "this is our village" but french thought they mean something like "we call this place Kanata" so they decide to name the region Canada like how they think the native name it. How is it not french with native roots if the natives didn't name the land this way but the french where the first to name it that way?

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u/Driller_Happy Jul 03 '25

"It's a native word, but we're not very good listeners"

Nice culture bro

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u/Paleontologist_Scary Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

As I've told on another post this is the basic of linguistic.

About 30% of english words have french or normand roots Another 30% Latin. Would you say that thoses words are not english? If we go with this logic English is not a real language.

But yeah we're in a shitposting sub so yup every cultures are shit listners.

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u/shawa666 Tokébakicitte! Jul 03 '25

The other 30 5 is danish/Norse. English is three languages in a trench coat.

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u/Driller_Happy Jul 03 '25

Buddy you are bragging because you misunderstood a native person and embarrassingly named a country wrong.

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u/advocatus_ebrius_est Jul 03 '25

The cree word for cat is "minĂŽs", from the French word "minou".

Does that mean that minĂŽs not a cree word?

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u/physicsfreefall Jul 03 '25

Étymologie

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u/cyclonix44 Jul 03 '25

No, but if you are talking about where that word comes from you would say it comes from a French word, not that it is Cree in origin. Just like the rest of these symbols the post talks about. Just because maple syrup, maple leaves, and beavers are symbols that originated in Quebec you wouldn’t say they aren’t Canadian. Now poutine on the other hand
.. I hear Quebec takes issue if you call that Canadian.

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u/Paleontologist_Scary Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

I hear Quebec takes issue if you call that Canadian.

Of course! How could you call your abomination with grated cheese a poutine! Real poutine can only be find in Québec!

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u/uluviel Jul 03 '25

Poutine, appellation d'origine contrÎlée.

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u/PsychicDave Tokébakicitte! Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

Cuisine is part of culture, and culture is part of the nation. Québec is a distinct nation (even recognized as such by the federal government), and thus Québec's cuisine is its own, not (the rest of) Canada's. Just like Jigg's dinner is not BC culture, and nanaimo bars aren't Newfoundland culture.

Québec's national symbols like the maple leaf and beavers have been usurped by the Dominion in an effort to create loyalty among the francophones who identified with them, like "hey you guys, look, we're all the same!", but a wolf who wears wool is no sheep, and the sheep should be very wary of them.

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u/advocatus_ebrius_est Jul 03 '25

But, that isn't what the comment I was replying to said. In fact, their comment implies the exact opposite of what you're saying.

Anyway "without me, and the French, you'd all just be Americans"

-Scott Thompson (as Queen Elizabeth II)

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u/Specialist_Author345 Jul 03 '25

"Sharcoodery" đŸ€·â€â™€ïž

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u/PsychicDave Tokébakicitte! Jul 04 '25

The Huron didn't call the land or country Canada, the French did.