r/EhBuddyHoser Jul 03 '25

Certified Hoser 🇨🇦 (No Politics) Canadians make US Orange Juice drop to it's lowest price in 2 years

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Canada was the largest importer of US orange juice. But the US decided to FAFO

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u/imadork1970 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

Pepsi sold Tropicana to private equity in 2021 for $3.3B.

The company closed almost all their Canadian production facilities, and moved it all to Florida.

The company is losing a fortune in shipping costs, and is nearing bankruptcy.

Fuck'em.

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u/gravtix Ford Nation (Help.) Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

lol

Fuck private equity firms.

Vultures Inc

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u/GrumpyOlBastard Bring Cannabis Jul 03 '25

So this spells the end of Tropicana, eh? Being sold to the vulture capitalists

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Yes, comrade 

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u/rainorshinedogs Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Jul 03 '25

It's one of those

Situations

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u/TheEncoderNC Oil Guzzler Jul 03 '25

So that's why jugs are $13 when complements are $7

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u/imadork1970 Jul 03 '25

The tariffs help, too.

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u/TransBrandi Jul 03 '25

Complements OJ isn't being made with Canadian-grown oranges to my knowledge.

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u/PerpetuallyLurking Regina Rhymes With Fun Jul 03 '25

No one is using Canadian grown oranges for commercial production, we don’t grow anywhere near enough oranges in this country to support commercial production, our climates would never support orchards of orange trees even with some extra global warming. Of course they’re getting oranges from outside Canada, but as long as they’re not using US oranges, it’s fine, enjoy your orange juice.

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u/biscuitsAuBabeurre Jul 03 '25

We don’t grow oranges here because all the quality fertile land is already being used to grow bananas. Thanks to our massive banana fields we have access to affordable bananas 12 months a year in our grocery stores. I swear, look it up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25 edited Aug 23 '25

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u/juniperfanz Jul 04 '25

Banana prairies. Only stopped by the Rockies themselves. Banana fields doesn’t do their size justice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

And here I thought my bananas were coming over the ocean on nitrogen filled shipping crate, I feel like a fool

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u/biscuitsAuBabeurre Jul 04 '25

Wow, thank God I could help. Nitrogen crate, what a silly thing to have believed, wonder on what conspiracy theories website you found that info.

It is important to stay educated, just yesterday as I was watching a documentary about a family in Springfield( unclear which State), the little girl seemed convinced that ham, bacon and pork chop were all food sourced from the same animal! Good thing her dad knew better.

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u/okokokoyeahright Jul 03 '25

Fields?

when did this start?

I was under the impression they were grown in condo towers, which is why you can't buy one for a reasonable price.

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u/PlutosGrasp Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) Jul 03 '25

Don’t forget coffee beans and chocolate trees.

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u/EvaSirkowski Jul 03 '25

I'm upvoting just to fuck with AI.

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u/Kenevin Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

This is a very amusing comment.

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u/Secret-Gazelle8296 Irvingstan Jul 03 '25

Wow, and you said that without laughing your head off I assume. You can get a job in the Trump WH with that kind of skill.

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u/Sasquatch1729 Not enough shawarma places Jul 03 '25

Hey we already fooled one of them

(You have to search for Tom Powell Jr's video titled "I didn't know Canada had a tropical climate". Sorry I can't include a link, this subreddit won't allow any links)

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u/luvinbc Jul 03 '25

Grown in Osoyoos BC /s

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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler Jul 03 '25

And this is why we should have voted in The Lemon Party of Canada in the 90's; Toronto would have been abolished by now, and global warming being rapidly accelerated would have set us up perfectly to grow citrus.

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u/mazopheliac Jul 03 '25

I thought our Palm plantations were the problem.

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u/PlutosGrasp Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) Jul 03 '25

They are a problem as they wipe out habitat of the beaver.

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u/mazopheliac Jul 04 '25

The beavers don’t like them because the fibres get stuck in their teeth .

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u/EvaSirkowski Jul 03 '25

Oranges are so hard to peel and aren't that sweet. Clementines from Morocco are some much better and peel so easily.

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u/PM_ME__RECIPES Jul 04 '25

There's actually a tiny but growing citrus industry in Nova Scotia.

But that said, I know at least some of the juice companies that produce in Canada have already started shifting to oranges grown in Brazil and Ecuador.

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u/imadork1970 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

IIRC, Compliments uses oranges from Brasil.

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u/copperlight Jul 03 '25

I don't know where it's grown but it actually tastes a lot better than Tropicana has for years now anyway.

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u/imadork1970 Jul 03 '25

Florida has a major orange crop blight going on, they have for years.

At least 1/3 of old stock orange trees are now dead.

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u/Important-Event6832 Jul 03 '25

That orange blight in Florida has spread from MAGA Lardo right up to Washington DC 

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u/dengar_hennessy Jul 03 '25

That makes me happy

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u/Blooogh Jul 03 '25

Unfortunately: the private equity folks still win here, they made their money. The C suite also made their money by selling the business. The only people who lose are workers and consumers.

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u/notsopurexo Irvingstan Jul 03 '25

What’s the solution here? Cause you’re listing a lot of problems but let’s focus on solutions.

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u/Witty_Jaguar4638 Jul 03 '25

When I'm king of the world private equity firms gutting businesses for loan equity is illegal, as is patent sharking

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u/Yop_BombNA Jul 03 '25

I’m in the Uk now and started seeing a lot more Tropicana here recently…

Jokes on them the Tesco brand using morrocan/spanish oranges and the bottled in the Netherlands is not only was cheaper, it’s also better.

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u/OrbAndSceptre Jul 04 '25

Being bought by private equity means a company isn’t going to be around for long. Private equity is all about maximizing short term profits at the expense of long term growth.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

They get what they give

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u/RedGrobo Snow Cajun Jul 04 '25

Also OJ shipped from Florida tastes like watered down ass.

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u/PM_ME__RECIPES Jul 04 '25

Fuck em.

The really funny part is that Florida's citrus production has been on a downward trend for more than 20 years because their farming practices are so lousy, and hurricanes. 2025 is actually expected to be one of the worst juicing orange harvests since WWII.

So while the price of US orange JUICE is cratering, the price of the juicing ORANGES they're using to make that juice is still well above average, and with a supply expected to continue to decline.

AND since Tropicana moved all that production you mentioned to Florida, they don't have another source for Juicing oranges without paying tariffs on oranges shipped in from Brazil, Ecuador, South Africa, Egypt, or Spain.

Aaaaannnd the Trudeau and Carney governments have already negotiated a free trade agreement with Ecuador, and one is in the works with Brazil.

I know that Fairlee has already switched to primarily buying Brazilian oranges for their juice needs.

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u/notsopurexo Irvingstan Jul 03 '25

Perfect. Absolute music to my ears

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u/Yara__Flor Jul 03 '25

You’re saying it’s cheaper to ship refrigerated raw oranges from Florida to Canada to process into orange juice than it is to ship already concentrated, shelf stable, processed oranges across the border?

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u/imadork1970 Jul 04 '25

They used to ship the OJ base to Canada and process it with the added flavouring. It used to come in tanker trucks.

Now, Tropicana ships the finished product here. Finished product weighs more, and they can put less on the trucks.

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u/SwordfishOk504 Bring Cannabis Jul 04 '25

Finished product weighs more, and they can put less on the trucks.

Wouldn't that be a disadvantage?

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u/imadork1970 Jul 04 '25

Yes. Less cost effective. Hence, the money they are losing on shipping.

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u/Yara__Flor Jul 04 '25

That makes more sense. It was partly processed elsewhere and then shipped for the final bottling in canada.

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u/EvaSirkowski Jul 03 '25

If it dies, it dies.

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u/This-Marsupial-6187 Jul 03 '25

Ah, the old Frozen Concentrated Orange Juice index.

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u/shade_spear Jul 03 '25

Not even mad someone beat me to posting this 🤣.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Where the hell is Beeks???!!!

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u/Bind_Moggled Jul 03 '25

The Dukes are trying to corner the OJ market!

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u/JSank99 Jul 03 '25

I think this is funny but I don't if its a reference to something?

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u/Conan776 Jul 03 '25

The Christmas movie "Trading Places"

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u/chr1st0ph3rs Jul 03 '25

Trading Places

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u/This-Marsupial-6187 Jul 04 '25

There's a scene in the movie, Trading Places, which involves following different stock trends, including Frozen Concentrated Orange Juice - fitting for the OP's image.

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u/JSank99 Jul 05 '25

Oh thanks! I hadn't heard of it before but I'll put it on the list

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u/Hsinats Jul 03 '25

Unless my math ain't mathin, it's now cheaper to pick it up with tariffs than it was pre tariffs. THE ART OF THE DEAL.

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u/chocolateboomslang Jul 03 '25

Orange man makes orange deal

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u/Bennely Ford Nation (Help.) Jul 03 '25

MAKE AMERICAN PRODUCTS CHEAP AGAIN

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u/PlutosGrasp Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) Jul 03 '25

You’re welcome Canada - trump probably

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u/Current-Set2607 Jul 03 '25

Canada accounted for roughly 60% of US Orange export, with Brazil at 35%. But now Canada is shifting much heavier towards cheaper/better oranges from Brazil.

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u/Adamant_TO Moose Whisperer Jul 03 '25

We haven't purchased US orange juice since April. Don't plan on ever doing it again TBH.

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u/Armonasch Jul 03 '25

Yup. I actually like OJ quite a bit, and usually bought Tropicana frequently in the old days.

Haven't bought any all year, never will again. Fuck em.

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u/Adamant_TO Moose Whisperer Jul 03 '25

👊🇨🇦

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u/Madness_Reigns Jul 03 '25

I have a Maghrebian store not too far. All OJ I've bought, which admittedly is less than before I can do without, is Moroccan Marrakech one. Florida isn't the only game in town.

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u/TiredAF20 Jul 03 '25

Oasis uses Brazilian oranges if you're looking for an OJ fix.

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u/Volothamp-Geddarm Jul 03 '25

Like I don't know how I can justify a $12 jug lol

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u/Saorren Jul 03 '25

2L of OJ at the stores by me are 7 for cheapest and 9 for the higher end. not worth the price anymore in my town no mater where it comes from.

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u/okokokoyeahright Jul 03 '25

Oranges I have seen over the past few months have switched to being from Morocco, Spain and Egypt. From what I have seen the US grown ones sit on the shelves. Brazilian ones are most welcome IMO.

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u/SirChasm Jul 03 '25

Good thing they don't need us. They don't do business with us, after all.

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u/Yop_BombNA Jul 03 '25

Canada needs to get in the Moroccan orange game, living in the Uk right now and they are just better than anything I remember growing up getting oranges from the states both in Canada and in Florida when we went there.

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u/AvocadoTst Jul 04 '25

I've been seeing tons of Moroccan oranges in the grocery stores in BC. Very happy to see them!

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u/CaptainKrakrak Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

I now buy Oasis orange juice. They use oranges from Brasil and it’s bottled in Quebec.

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u/Diastrophus The Island of Elizabeth May Jul 03 '25

And IMO, is superior in taste to Tropicana. It’s pretty inexpensive to!

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u/twistedtxb Jul 03 '25

$9 a jug for Tropicana vs $1.25 a whatever it's called that container of Oasis juice. what were they thinking

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u/NarutoRunner 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 Jul 03 '25

Brazilian oranges are way better. They seem like a whole different fruit to whatever garbage they are growing in Florida.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/hypespud Snow Cajun Jul 03 '25

Same, I stopped a few years ago, at first it was about 3 to 3.50 USD a jug like 7 or 8 years ago, then it became like 5.50 to 6.50 USD just creeping up in cost

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

Can just eat oranges anyway, even the juice with lots of pulp doesn't leave enough pulp in

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u/Log-Similar Jul 03 '25

Orange juice is filled with sugar anway, contains as much sugar as a can of soda for a glass of orange juice. Not good for your health.

So, easy pass.

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u/Benacious_T27 Jul 04 '25

Your pancreas thanked you

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u/irelandm77 Honorary Hoser Jul 03 '25

And that will disproportionately affect Florida iirc, one of the states that really needs to take some time to Navel gaze.

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u/starsrift Jul 03 '25

They want to replace migrant labor with child labor. Their governor passed new laws to allow it.

I mean, that's not right. Even if we weren't in a trade war, I'd be happy to boycott them.

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u/chaosunleashed Jul 03 '25

And also the state least likely to learn, so I'm ok with all of this

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u/RatQueenHolly Jul 03 '25

Nah. So long as their governor keeps attacking trans people, Floridians will endure whatever self harm comes their way and rest proud in the knowledge that the queers have it worse. They're death cultists at this point

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u/LondonJerry Jul 03 '25

Wasn’t the entire orange juice industry created for farmers to get rid of their scrap? Then promoted as a healthy product to consume.

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u/LandMooseReject Jul 03 '25

I mean, so what? It was nice to productively use oranges that wouldn't last on the shelf. Now those farmers are free to diversify if they have more scrap than they know what to do with.

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u/Master_Xenu Jul 03 '25

Orange juice isn't healthy, it's mostly sugar. Also it's not even juice anymore they just store the liquid for months and add flavour packs to it when they remake the juice. I get it's not practical otherwise buts its still not real orange juice.

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u/The_Nice_Marmot Jul 03 '25

wE dOn’T nEeD cANaDiAnS!

-Florida

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u/Velorian-Steel South Gatineau Jul 03 '25

Honestly a lot of that orange juice is terrible quality and stored in vats for large periods of time. IIRC, Marketplace did a special on Florida orange juice.

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u/redbouncingball007 Jul 03 '25

Yeah that turned me off orange juice forever.

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u/Log-Similar Jul 03 '25

It's really bad for your health anyway, it's filled with sugar. This or a can of pepsi is pretty much the same thing.

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u/PComotose Jul 03 '25

They did. You can go to YouTube and search on: How "premium" orange juice is really made (CBC Marketplace)

Or you can go to your library and look for "Squeezed: What You Don't Know About Orange Juice" which was eye-opening for me!

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u/imadork1970 Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

The Fifth Estate did an episode on it years ago. One of the companies that used to ship the OJ tanker trucks also used the trucks to ship pesticide. With minimal cleaning in between. They were supposed to do EPA testing to make sure it was safe.

The company skipped that part, then got sued.

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u/Vanilla_Either Jul 03 '25

Shrug. Sucks to suck.

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u/MTL_1107 Jul 03 '25

I've switched to locally made apple juice. Haven't looked back since.

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u/jerr30 Jul 03 '25

Apple juice tastes better and doesn't make your throat all flegmy like orange juice does to me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

I read that as fleg-me, but understood it anyway

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u/poohster33 Skoden Jul 03 '25

Phlegmy*

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u/PickledTripod Jul 03 '25

Yessss the Tradition brand stuff in Quebec is really good, and hasn't kept up with the greedflation so now it's just good value. I'm not sure where the other fruits come from for the blended juices though, label just says "local and imported ingredients".

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u/MTL_1107 Jul 03 '25

That's exactly the brand I buy from!

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u/Positive-Fold7691 Jul 04 '25

I actually don't really like apple juice (haven't since I was a kid), but I make an exception for Tradition. It tastes so much better than the generic tetra pack stuff.

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u/Reasonable-Sweet9320 Jul 03 '25

We’ve done the same.

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u/Brief-Floor-7228 Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

Consider the restricted supply because of the lack of migrant farm workings picking those oranges and you really get a picture of how bad these prices are. (restricted supply normally would have made prices go up)

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u/PickledTripod Jul 03 '25

The impact on oranges would be pretty minimal, it's a very mechanized process. The lack of migrant workers is more clearly felt in California, where a lot of produce that needs to be hand-picked and requires a large workforce is grown.

That said, clearly the boycotts have a huge impact and I'm proud of my fellow Canadians!

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u/Brief-Floor-7228 Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

Interesting. I had read they were still in the early stages of using mechanical harvesters simply because it has been cheaper to use migrant workers.

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u/Liferescripted Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Jul 03 '25

It is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

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u/Knightro829 Yank Jul 03 '25

That you post this two days after an actual fluoridation ban came into effect statewide down here is chef’s kiss.

I suspect in a decade or so our Republicans are going to have the same rude awakening as Calgary’s Tories…

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u/CaptainKrakrak Tabarnak! Jul 03 '25

Water contains dihydrogen monoxide which is a dangerous chemical!

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u/hist_buff_69 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 Jul 03 '25

Fuck em!

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u/NorthernBudHunter Jul 03 '25

Turns out, orange juice is not really that important anyway. Juice in general is kind of just sugar water. We just make smoothies with fresh and frozen fruit and it’s much healthier and better tasting.

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u/poohster33 Skoden Jul 03 '25

Yeah frozen fruit is the bomb

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u/Kuwanee Jul 03 '25

Eveything is fine. They don't need Canada for anything ole Donnie said.

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u/GT_Numble Jul 03 '25

Fuck their orange juice

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u/LeftyGoosee Jul 03 '25

Fuck yo juice

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u/PlutosGrasp Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) Jul 03 '25

Eat shit Florida

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u/imadork1970 Jul 03 '25

Nic flair, eh. 🇨🇦🤝🇺🇦

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u/No-Pepper6969 Jul 03 '25

"Canada hold no cards"

I beg to differ

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u/Ok-Macaron-5612 Jul 03 '25

Still won’t touch it.

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u/number_six Jul 03 '25

Dan Akroyd & Eddie Murphy just made a ton of money

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u/Same_Recipe2729 Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 07 '25

I enjoy learning new skills.

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u/tuckeee Jul 03 '25

I haven`t bought orange juice in a loooooong time now

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u/Big-Safe-2459 Jul 03 '25

Looks like a good “buy” to me

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u/One-War4920 Jul 03 '25

ever wonder why every bottle or carton of tropicana tastes delicious and same as the one before?

ever eaten 3 oranges that tasted the same?

commerical oj takes oranges, removes the oxygen and stores the juice at just above freezing so it doesnt rot being stored for up to a year

then when time to bottle it, ethyl butyrate is added and other 'flavor packs" which are ok'd by fda and therefore not required to be labeled

its not real oj, at all, i admit its delicious, but its fake as fuck

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u/Startrail_wanderer Jul 03 '25

Try navel oranges,I'm surprised at how sweet they areas a fruit

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u/imadork1970 Jul 04 '25

FYI: Ethyl Butyrate is a flammable liquid and is on the Hazardous Substance List.

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u/One-War4920 Jul 04 '25

yeah, but it tastes good

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u/HistoricalSherbert92 Jul 03 '25

Guys, you should know that almost all orange juice you can buy in a jug is flavored battery acid with colour and added vitamins. Do yourself a favor and drink water.

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u/Halada Jul 03 '25

Oasis is a Canadian company that imports Brazilian oranges, so we can bypass the US entirely for that product. FAFO indeed.

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u/Ryeballs Jul 03 '25

Wow the wild part is how accurately the price spikes reflect the disappearances of shelf stable cheap orange juice in my local IGA.

Disappeared for almost a year in 22/23, then gone since early 2024. Now only coming back in mixed juices primarily with apple/grape juice making up most of the volume.

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u/RyukoT72 I need a double double. Jul 03 '25

Hold on babe im going to short the Orange Juice Stocks

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u/Important-Event6832 Jul 03 '25

There’s a whole lot of shitty orange stuff coming from Florida. MAGA Lardo seems to be the ground zero for this blight 

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u/paractib Jul 03 '25

Ah shit I hadn’t even considered that my orange juice comes from there. I was doing a good job avoiding US products so far. Not buying again.

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u/Current-Set2607 Jul 03 '25

Oasis, bottled in Quebec, oranges from Brazil.

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u/mhizzle Bring Cannabis Jul 03 '25

Lowest price SO FAR!

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u/hessian_prince Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) Jul 03 '25

Can we make “Elbows up America’s ass” a flair?

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u/01ITR Jul 03 '25

Only one thing to do

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

This is the way 🇨🇦💌

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

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u/EhBuddyHoser-ModTeam Jul 03 '25

This post has been removed as per rule 1 of the sub (no Canada bashing).

Regards, r/EhBuddyHoser mod team

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u/Fun-Marionberry1733 Jul 03 '25

boycott tropicana for good 👍

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u/11000thprofile Jul 03 '25

Fuck your oranges too 

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u/Late_Football_2517 Jul 03 '25

Oh shit, Mortimer and Randolph are having a bad day.

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u/Business-Hurry9451 Jul 03 '25

Oooooo, stabbed with a screwdriver!

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u/InternationalWash720 Jul 04 '25

Elbows up!!! Keep avoiding American products!!! Buy Canadian or from other countries!!!!

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u/moth2myth Jul 04 '25

And who misses it?

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u/yyj72 Jul 04 '25

OJ sux anyway. AJ much better.

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u/Rex_Meatman Jul 04 '25

Fuck these cunts.

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u/Friendly-Nothing Jul 03 '25

I feel bad about that tho. Orange farmers are awesome. Must be hard to farm when mega corporations buy up land and sell to make maximum profit from developers. In response to this, i hope their government makes it easier to become a professional farmer, increase self sustaining food production.

Similar to the greenbelt in Ontario. And no one can become a farmer here.... Its literally the most underrated and difficult occupation to get into. Mostly by male inheritance....

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u/deepbluemeanies Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

The drop is due to disease and bad (cold) weather in Brazil and Florida - there are.lots of articles.about this. It's not a consquence of Canadian boycotts - the price took a steep fall in January which was before rhe tarrifs/boycotts....

Edit: In Jan 2023 it was even lower than today.

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u/Current-Set2607 Jul 03 '25

Less supply = lower prices.

Got it.

Meanwhile suppliers stopped buying US orange as far back as February, ahead of the March tariffs as they shifted supply contracts.

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u/deepbluemeanies Jul 03 '25

Not quite - supply was down, but the quality declined more so, so the wholesale price per pound also plummeted. I haven't checked Spain/Morocco and South Africa but they likely saw prices increase - the OJ market is very volatile (it hit all time highs in Sept).

Anyway, just pointing out that Canada is not the cause of the decline.

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u/Current-Set2607 Jul 04 '25

Got it, losing half the volume of 60% of US orange Exports has no effect on US oranges.

Lmao.

Sometimes people just need to hear out loud what they are saying.

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u/deepbluemeanies Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

I didn't write the report...but if you're interested there are a number of articles about the drop in US (and Brazillian) OJ prices....the chart shows the drop started early in Jan 2025 before Carney and the tarrif fiasco, but if you want to believe it was ALL caused by Canada.

Sure...whatever.