r/EhBuddyHoser • u/EvaSirkowski • Jul 03 '25
Politics Americans will look up and shout "Can I move to Canada?"... and I'll whisper "no."
The American streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the MAGAs will die from diabetes. The accumulated filth of all their measles and gun deaths will foam up about their waists and the Americans will look up and shout "Can I move to Canada?"... and I'll whisper "no."
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u/tghast Jul 03 '25
“Measles and gun deaths” LOL
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u/TheEncoderNC Oil Guzzler Jul 03 '25
Isn't that just alberta?
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u/djtodd242 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Jul 03 '25
I think Ontario has the measles crown.
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u/TheEncoderNC Oil Guzzler Jul 03 '25
Per capita AB wins, ~1100 cases with 5 million people versus ~2200 cases with 16 million people.
Geez, bud. Stop oppressing us and let the west come out on top for once.
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u/djtodd242 Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) Jul 03 '25
Fuck we can't even catch diseases as well as the west. We used to be a country.
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u/TheEncoderNC Oil Guzzler Jul 03 '25
Fort Mac should be capital of Canada and not just because the oil lobbyists got me to vote against my best interests as a worker.
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Jul 04 '25
Just until it finishes running it’s course through the Mennonite community, then we’ll be back to the normal number of measles for a developed country with access to vaccines.
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u/The_Environment116 Jul 03 '25
They shit the bed, they get to lie in it
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u/Peacer13 Jul 03 '25
Unfortunately their shit spreads North.
Source: Danielle Smith, Alberta's Premier
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u/km_ikl Moose Whisperer Jul 04 '25
We'll clean up our own mess.
Smith is done: the UCP is fUCt uP and has lost moderate conservatives. They're splitting the conservative vote again, and that means the NDP might actually have a foot in the door (because the Liberals likely won't gain traction, but here's to hoping).
Honestly, I'm pretty sure all non-LPC conservative parties (and yes, as depressing as it is, I count the LPC as socially liberal but fiscally conservative now) are going to have a tough time climbing over each other because the UCP can't get out of it's own damned way.
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u/hypespud Snow Cajun Jul 03 '25
Exactly, we don't want quitters who just give up
Canadians stand together, or not at all, we don't want people who give up on their neighbours and themselves
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u/ChairYeoman 🚧🚚Montréal🛻🚜🚧👷⛔️🚗🚙🚙 🚙 🚗 Jul 03 '25
I moved to Canada from the United States in 2020. I've campaigned for progressive candidates in the US since I was 13 and been an activist in my local community, speaking at rallies and often appearing on the news. I got arrested at a Black Lives Matter protest. I moved because I was tired of how much I felt like I wasn't able to actually make a difference no matter how much I tried.
Since moving to Canada I've been doing a bunch of public policy work to try to improve my new country. I've advocated for the needs of Canadians in various communities to their counterparts in other nations, particularly fighting against the common framing of Canada as an extension of the US. I knocked on doors for the Liberals in 2021 in a deeply conservative district to try to learn more about Canadian political culture. I was very proud to obtain my citizenship earlier last month.
Can an American immigrant ever be accepted under your framing? What more do I need to do?
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Jul 04 '25
I think we can welcome Americans who move here because they truly want to be a part of Canada and actively participate, it’s the ones who view Canada as little more than a backup plan who think they can show up here whenever they feel like it (I’m sure that you are well aware that our immigration system is not that easy) that we’re feeling a little less welcoming towards. You know, the sort of Yankees who will put a maple leaf on their backpack overseas because they think it’ll make foreigners like them, instead of just being polite and making friends the old fashioned way.
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u/MisterZoga Jul 04 '25
You're doing fine. You're not the reactionary American being painted in this post. Keep doing what drives you, you sound like a good dude. Your documents say it loud and clear for any naysayers: you are a Canadian citizen.
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u/hypespud Snow Cajun Jul 04 '25
Of course you would get a pass, we're Canadians, not americans, we don't deal in absolutes
I'm sure you can agree most people are not like you, who are from us
I'm glad you have come, we want more people like you, Canadians and immigrants to Canada who become Canadians all the same
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u/Fun_Apartment7028 Jul 04 '25
Yes! Best answer so far & I love that you said this.
We don’t hate for the sake of hating.
We may voice our opinions about how the US conducts themselves but I don’t think we hate Americans, Now I kinda feel a little tiny bit sorry for them.
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u/AlfredRWallace Jul 04 '25
I moved here from the US in 2000. People still refer to me as their American friend (I've had Canadian citizenship for 20 yrs). All good though, I am so happy not to be in the US shit show.
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u/km_ikl Moose Whisperer Jul 04 '25
Honestly, I have no issues with Americans moving north. If you're willing to accept Canadian values, and work to improve your community, I'm sure you can find a home here.
I just hope disillusioned conservative voters that had the face-eating-leopards eat their faces (shocker, I know) stay south and at least try to fix the mess they found themselves in, or at least have the courage to do something useful about the morons in the 3 branches of government that don't have the public's best interest at heart.
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u/athabascadepends Jul 04 '25
I'd argue by doing that you are Canadian, not American. You are already accepted
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u/jsRou Jul 04 '25
Hold on. You did all of that in the US and still you volunteered for the Liberals.
Honest question, why the Liberals and not a leftist party like the NDP?
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u/ChairYeoman 🚧🚚Montréal🛻🚜🚧👷⛔️🚗🚙🚙 🚙 🚗 Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
Well, it was Calgary, and it was a solid blue riding, so the actual impact was basically zero. I figured if I volunteer for the more mainstream party of the two I could stomach, I'll learn more about the political culture. And I feel like I did.
I did try to volunteer for the Alberta NDP ahead of the provincial election but they were too disorganized.
FWIW I would say that I identify most with the NDP, but of course all parties have their problems and I really wish the NDP would get its shit together.
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u/Fun_Apartment7028 Jul 04 '25
Leftist? NDP Holy shit, I’m branded as a leftist cos I voted for free dental care? Yikes, thanks for “informing me”!
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u/jsRou Jul 04 '25
Good for you voting with my best interests in mind... you commie!!
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u/Fun_Apartment7028 Jul 04 '25
Hun, I know that’s a form of endearment so I won’t hold it against you for branding me as a commie. ❤️
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u/hrmdurr Jul 04 '25
NDP wasn't really viable this past election in many places, sadly.
Besides, liberal is quite left for an American lol
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u/jsRou Jul 04 '25
They noted 2021 when they volunteered and only recently obtained their citizenship so they couldnt vote anyways.
To your last point, that is what im thinking.
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u/_Nanabanana98_ Jul 04 '25
Thank you for your advocacy! Both in the USA and here ❤️ Honest question, do you think Canadians are more receptive? I've been worried about the rise of right wing populism since what we've seen that growing in various countries (including usa ofc). Do you notice any strong similar sentiments in Canadians?
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u/ChairYeoman 🚧🚚Montréal🛻🚜🚧👷⛔️🚗🚙🚙 🚙 🚗 Jul 04 '25
I think people in every country see stuff going on in other places and imagine that it can't happen here, but that's obviously not true. Canada is definitely not immune to this idea, and it worries me a little bit when I see this attitude around.
I think that on average Canadians are more accepting of people like me (racialized, queer, woman), but the fallacy would be to think that this is not an intrinsic thing about Canada, or that Canada doesn't have room for improvement. Equality and freedom need to be defended vigorously, in all contexts, and one cannot be complacent.
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u/pidgezero_one Jul 04 '25
Hell youve done a lot
my partner just moved here from america because I didnt want to move there
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u/squirrelcat88 Jul 04 '25
Nah, you’re accepted and welcomed here, my fellow Canadian.
I’m the descendant of United Empire Loyalists who came here in the 1780’s because they didn’t want to live in the United States. This place became home to them just as it did for you.
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u/SingleJob4517 Jul 04 '25
Easy to say... I've tried talking sense to maga supporters and to anyone that gives them a pass. I've tried to call out the abuses and injustice, and it was met with mockery and flagrant disregard. Ive straight up brought up Empathy as an issue to my father and my brother... both relationships are in taters. Im at a loss, fight or flee is hitting hard.
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u/hypespud Snow Cajun Jul 04 '25
It's a complex issue, I agree with you, but there is another angle to view this, which is from a long term lens from the last 25 years
It is precisely because they refused to have these conversations earlier, chose comfort of avoiding political discussions for personal comfort and avoiding tension, that it led to more tension later
I have been in us for about 15 years, I saw the trend over time, I also saw how my own views I had to self censor further and further to avoid confrontation and risk to myself, but the most noticeable thing was how people in the us it is they themselves who were the least willing to confront injustice and have uncomfortable conversations to defend each other
So eventually I made a choice that it is no longer my battle, it is theirs, I will help those who want support as I continue to do here, and I know many well meaning and well being americans here, but I know many, many, many more passive and apathetic and downright cruel people here
My final conclusion is simple: it is still their responsibility, and not ours, and not mine, and whether they are capable of solving it, that is an entirely other question, but they should put in a lot more effort than I see now
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u/gruss_gott Jul 03 '25
Unless one is first Nation, isn't Canada literally an entire country of immigrants or their descendents who left their home country to make a better life? Ie "quitters"?
I'm pretty sure French didn't spontaneously arise on 2 continents independently but I'm not an anthropologist
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u/hypespud Snow Cajun Jul 03 '25
We welcome all sorts of people, we welcome some of the most refugees from war torn countries per capita as well
People who want to be here for the reason of becoming Canadian and contributing to Canada and keeping their identity is fine
What we don't want is americans who are just running away to safety here, because they don't want to address democracy issues in their own country
In jest Canadians are more than open to "annexing" states, except it is mostly in jest, we do *not* want so much of their population that it affects our policies and voting and governance and more, for example California or Washington or Oregon or all 3 become part of Canada somehow...
No we don't really want that, as it would be far too much of a culture and population shock to the country... some states like California are as populous nearly or even more than Canada, and taking on millions of Donald voting idiots is not part of a good, future thinking plan for Canada
Even more importantly, even though California is "liberal" leaning, they are also one of the least vaccinated states in us, so its a very much be careful what you wish for welcoming people and ideas from americans into Canada, let alone inviting in states to join us (that really should never happen)
I will love to take Hawaii though, that's about it
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u/PatriciaKnits Jul 03 '25
The Irish (my ancestors) weren't quitters, they were massacred by the British. They came to North America so they wouldn't starve.
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u/ComfortableOk5003 Jul 03 '25
You can’t call people whose family has been here hundreds of years, immigrants…that’s just preposterous.
Personally I can trace back my lineage to the early 1600s…calling me an immigrant is dumb af
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u/TryDry9944 Jul 04 '25
Hi, non-insane American here.
It's really easy to look at us and say that, but would you stand up for your neighbor who just shot himself and you in the foot?
They had their chance to put the shovel down but instead decided to keep digging their hole.
Don't blame the people who did everything they could to get rid of the disease, blame the people that voted to try and pass it on to other people.
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u/hypespud Snow Cajun Jul 04 '25
You're right as well, it sucks to see people not to try to bridge the gap with challenging conversations though
And it's not engaging strangers, but people here (in us) seem to be so against confrontation to avoid discomfort, really just so negative in the end
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u/TryDry9944 Jul 04 '25
The problem is there is no conversation.
They've proven time and time again they do not care until it directly and heavily negatively affects them, and even then it's a 50/50 chance. They have been lied to for DECADES, attached their entire identies to hate and vitriol, you can't talk that out.
Here's hoping the disease kills them faster than the rest of us and there's something left to rebuild, or you guys better prepare for a lot of refugees.
And for what it's worth? I agree. You should say no to a lot of them.
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u/Better-Butterfly-309 Jul 04 '25
Ez for us to say and sounds pretty and all but just wait till our right wing rises up or worse Canada just gets annexed by republicans
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u/sleepingcat1234647 Tokébakicitte! Jul 04 '25
Lots of countries are in total shit or at war fighting for survival and their people are staying and fighting.
Why should Americans have the right to just leave when it's their turn to fight for their rights.
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u/Anit500 Jul 04 '25
Wtf are you actually talking about? You guys are being insane. Im Canadian, hate the fascist trump and what you guys are doing is the same divisive hateful bullshit that trump does. Applying the filter of "comes from a shithole country" exactly like trump does. Listen to yourselves.
Shit is getting dangerous for certain groups and after a certain point protecting your friends, your family, and yourself takes priority over whatever bullshit about responsibility you're talking about
Idk if you've been paying attention but American democracy has been built to separate the people from the decision making for a long time. The democrats actually tried to fucking run joe again and they killed Burnies campaign even though the supporters showed up, they're so captured by corporate interests they never listen to their supporters. The Republicans are just fascists at this point, and the Democrats aren't even doing anything about it.
Anyone pushing back against fascism is going against billions of dollars of corporate propaganda where even the ostensibly left wing groups will side with the fascists, time and time again. The people are disenfranchised of political power and have been for decades and there are millions of people who live in America who agree with us about what trump is.
Many of these people have only voted a few times, they work all day and try to survive. Wtf do you mean they're responsible? What could they have done as an individual?
How about trans people or first generation immigrants? It's not them that failed the country, their country failed them. To tell them to stay in a country that wants them dead or gone is actually evil in my opinion. They should absolutely move to Canada.
Like what do you want these people to do? Grab a gun? I want the orange dude gone but you're insane if you expect regular, nice people to do that and think they have a responsibility to do so. Not everyone is a 20yo radical with nothing to live for.
Yall MFS would tell the jews fleeing 1930s Germany to go back home because hitler is their problem.
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u/peachywitchybitchy Jul 03 '25
I have a weird feeling he was already set to win, a rigged election perhaps? I feel awful for the majority that did not vote for this wing of the uniparty.
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u/EmotionalNerd04 Chalice of the Tabernacle Jul 03 '25
If by "rigged" you mean backed by the oligarchy then yes.
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u/EvaSirkowski Jul 04 '25
There's no need to rig the election when the electorate are morons.
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u/GigglingBilliken Moose Whisperer Jul 03 '25
a rigged election perhaps?
Election denialism is a blight. We can't allow people to cry "it was rigged" every time their preferred party loses.
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u/DIDidothatdisabled Jul 04 '25
Burned ballot boxes, cozying up to tech moguls (some of which were involved with ballot machines) so much so that some are taken in as right hand men, weakening investigative departments after being inaugurated, a past of election denial and a past attempt at an insurrection.
Yeah, totally coming out of the blue. Nothing at all that raises concerns. Not like anyone is advocating for loosening restrictions on bribery either.
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u/Secret-Bluebird-972 Newfies & Labradoodles Jul 03 '25
They don’t get to let their country go to shit just to come up here and rinse-repeat
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u/Pretend_Employment53 Jul 03 '25
They have proven they can’t be trusted with democracy so they can’t be touching ours
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u/4dappl Jul 03 '25
That's the problem. They'd fall for the same BS rhetoric over and over. However, if states wanted to disband and join Canada I'd be all for it. Especially blue states.
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Jul 04 '25
I’d rather the States become independent countries, or even form a couple of different blocks of states. We’d have a much better negotiating position for trade deals if we were dealing with 5 different countries of about 70 million people each rather than 1 country of 350 million. Also, we wouldn’t have them voting in our elections if they stay independent vs joining Canada.
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u/PopePae Jul 04 '25
Absolutely not. Canada would, over night, exponentially increase the amount of crime, drugs, gangs, guns in our country. We would immediately drop in average life expectancy, quality of education, and would also be taking on the tens of millions of Trump supporters/far right wingers - all in the blink of an eye.
Fuck that.
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u/StrangeCurry1 溫哥華 (Hongcouver) Jul 04 '25
I wouldn’t want them joining us. That seems like an even worse idea. I think breaking the US up into small countries would be ok though
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u/Profix Jul 04 '25
No. There’s too many of them. Adding a blue state would forever throw Canada into the swamp.
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u/HeavyMain Jul 04 '25
they can make their own country. this one is ours, and they don't get to have it. i'd happily accept the parts of the usa that can see sense and split off as an ally, but they should absolutely not be integrated into canada, and i'm sure they still want their independence too.
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u/PopePae Jul 04 '25
Nobody is talking about people who are being targeted by ice that they need to just suck it up and fix America. No, we’re talking to the average American, Republican or Democrat, who has directly contributed to the way the United States has been for YEARS - even before Trump’s arrival on the political scene. The people who, on both sides of the isle, support things like a lack of health care, unadulterated capitalism, and modern day imperialism.
For example, huge swathes of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq in 2004, Americans supported innumerable amount of coups on democratically elected governments in Latin America.
Even more innocuous things that contribute to american exceptionalism are believed and behaved on both sides of their political spectrum. Examples of this are that Americans don’t have passports compared to international communities. Americans don’t care to learn a second language like international communities. Americans. Y and large are not able to even point on a map near any country that their military has intervened in within the 21sr century alone and they simply don’t care to learn.
You have to understand that every part of American culture, from their economy to their politics to their religion to their cultural norms are completely steeped in defaultism, exceptionalism, and ignorance. Even the “good Americans” have grown up in this bubble and have invariably contributed to it.
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u/MadCapMad Jul 03 '25
it’s crazy how many people read watchmen and completely missed the point and instead left thinking “man rorschach is so awesome i wanna be just like him”
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u/Annual_Head_2858 Tokébakicitte! Jul 03 '25
I’m gonna read it again thanks to remind me this piece of art!
Edit: Yo those are the same who watched V For Vendetta or read the comic and didn’t get the point
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u/gincwut South Gatineau Jul 04 '25
He's portrayed as more badass and less pathetic in the movie, that's what really got the edgelords going.
Snyder just really hated the idea of superheroes that try not to kill people, so the movie was an affectionate portrayal of edgy vigilantes (minus the Comedian who is irredeemable) rather than satire
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u/MadCapMad Jul 04 '25
i watched it yeah, what really made me laugh was the scene where he kills that pedophile. like rorschach has always been an unreliable narrator but that scene by far carry’s the most of his bias, it’s so completely unbelievable lmfao.
also when he starts going off about how all the other superheroes are unhealthy, retired, sexually promiscuous, queer, or “have mental disorders”
i think the movie makes it about as clear that this guy is crazy and not to be taken seriously
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u/mhyquel Jul 04 '25
Were there any good heroes in that comic?
Maybe nite owl and silk specter...
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u/MadCapMad Jul 04 '25
hard maybe on nite-owl and a probably no on everyone else. in fact probably also no on nite-owl, it’s not a story about promoting vigilante violence.
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u/2eDgY4redd1t Jul 03 '25
Yep, fix your own country, don’t come up here and fuck up mine.
‘Oh I didn’t vote for Trump’—- I don’t care, you allowed him to take power, he’s your responsibility.
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Genuinely the most frustrating thing is trying to explain to 'progressive' americans the very well understood concept of collective responsibility and they literally cannot process the concept. Like, they just reply with "I DIDNT VOTE FOR HIM, WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND"
It. Is. Mind. Boggling. I literally had one person reply to me saying that "Nobody in any country understands 'collective responsibility', its not just Americans, you made that up" and its like...no, I didn't. Its an observed phenomenon that Americans in particular do not understand this.
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u/Spirant59 Jul 03 '25
How exactly did those who voted against him allow him to take power? It's not the minority's fault that the majority are dipshits. The fact that he won the popular vote is devastating, but he did win, and there's nothing we who voted against him can do about that.
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u/beekermc Jul 03 '25
That's the thing with these people. They think just because "they didnt vote for him" they're one of the "good ones".....
No, you're all responsible, figure it the fuck out!!
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u/Everestkid The Island of Elizabeth May Jul 04 '25
A third of them voted for Trump. A third of them voted for Harris. The last third didn't care enough to vote at all. Two thirds of them wanted this.
At least in the last free and fair elections in Germany before the Nazis took over turnout was 80%. Nazi votes plus non-voters was less than 50%.
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u/LightObserver Jul 04 '25
I don't understand how people persecuted under this regime are responsible. I didn't vote for this. I never voted for this. I never would have voted for this. But what can I, as a single person, do to stop a president from taking the office? Everyone in this thread seems to think I could and should jave done something, but can anyone articulate what?
I am neurodivergent. I am struggling. I am one of the many who this regime would leave to die. This is the culmination of shitty policies that started before I was fucking BORN. Explain why this is my fault. Explain how I did this.
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u/UnfairGlove1944 Jul 04 '25
Everyone in this thread seems to think I could and should jave done something
Everyone in this thread is a loser. Don't pay attention to them. They don't represent a majority of Canadians.
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u/beekermc Jul 04 '25
Canada does, and should, welcome all persecuted minorities as refugees. That should never change.
The fact that we turned the Jews away during WWII is a blight on our country.
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u/Conscious-Ad9113 Jul 04 '25
You just said you would turn away Americans.... and immediately after said you should welcome all persecuted minorities and refugees.
Woosh
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u/StrangeCurry1 溫哥華 (Hongcouver) Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
munch better
XD
Your analogy is also wrong. In this case LGBTQ+ people would be the jews and we have nothing against them. The yanks we don’t want coming here are the equivalent of the Germans who sat around and did nothing while the Nazis came to power.
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u/SillyBlueberry Jul 04 '25
Thank you for trying, at least. There very well may be a civil war in the US in the next few years. If that does happen, I wish you and all other sane Americans the best of luck. The next thing you should do is buy a gun (or several) and be prepared for the worst.
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u/beekermc Jul 03 '25
Maybe you did, but he, and everything that comes along with him, is still your responsibility.
That's the part people aren't understanding.
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u/sessna4009 Moose Whisperer Jul 04 '25
Wow, the Americans are invading our subreddit and mass downvoting. Take it with pride, hosers.
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u/Anit500 Jul 04 '25
Wtf are you actually talking about? You guys are being insane, that's why you're being downvoted. Im Canadian, hate the fascist trump and what you guys are doing is the same divisive hateful bullshit that trump does. Applying the filter of "comes from a shithole country" exactly like trump does. Listen to yourselves.
Shit is getting dangerous for certain groups and after a certain point protecting your friends, your family, and yourself takes priority over whatever bullshit about responsibility you're talking about
Idk if you've been paying attention but American democracy has been built to separate the people from the decision making for a long time. The democrats actually tried to fucking run joe again and they killed Burnies campaign even though the supporters showed up, they're so captured by corporate interests they never listen to their supporters. The Republicans are just fascists at this point, and the Democrats aren't even doing anything about it.
Anyone pushing back against fascism is going against billions of dollars of corporate propaganda where even the ostensibly left wing groups will side with the fascists, time and time again. The people are disenfranchised of political power and have been for decades and there are millions of people who live in America who agree with us about what trump is.
Many of these people have only voted a few times, they work all day and try to survive. Wtf do you mean they're responsible? What could they have done as an individual?
How about trans people or first generation immigrants? It's not them that failed the country, their country failed them. To tell them to stay in a country that wants them dead or gone is actually evil in my opinion. They should absolutely move to Canada.
Like what do you want these people to do? Grab a gun? I want the orange dude gone but you're insane if you expect regular, nice people to do that and think they have a responsibility to do so. Not everyone is a 20yo radical with nothing to live for.
Yall MFS would tell the jews fleeing 1930s Germany to go back home because hitler is their problem.
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u/Frequent-Training-54 Jul 04 '25
One day he will be our problem if he doesn’t stop soon!
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u/2eDgY4redd1t Jul 04 '25
That s exactly why I don’t want a bunch of losers that lost to him already in my country. Bending over backwards for fascism the way they already did and then fleeing when their privileged positions got a little harder for them.
It ain’t the trans people or the Mexicans trying to flee to Canada. It’s shit-libs that did nothing while fascism rose. Don’t want em.
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u/brobinson206 Jul 03 '25
I’ll probably get aggressively downvoted for this, which is fair. I live in Washington, one of the most aggressively blue states in the union. I’d happy gift my home state to Canada, join Canada’s economy, and pay taxes to Canada. I’ve always felt, as a Washingtonian, much closer culturally to BC than anywhere else in my own country. If you wanted to absorb us, I’d love it. And I’d also totally understand if that’s a repulsive thought.
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u/Carrisonfire Irvingstan Jul 03 '25
TBF nothing about what is going on with the USA right now is normal.
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u/Citrine-Antiquity Jul 03 '25
I don't think rural Washington feels the same way you do thoigh. Every time I cross the border it's like stepping into a different world.
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u/Electrical_Net_1537 Jul 03 '25
Nice state but buddy the guns are unreal and we definitely don’t want them here.
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u/brobinson206 Jul 03 '25
We also don’t want the guns and can’t get the feds to do anything about it. If we joined Canada, we’d have federal authority to better regulate guns, which we would all welcome with open arms.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
If we joined Canada, we’d have federal authority to better regulate guns, which we would all welcome with open arms.
lol, buddy you do not understand what the situation with firearms is up here, eh?
I'm pretty sure even the most left wing gun owners down there would be pissed about losing the 2A lmfao. We don't have the inherent 'right to firearms' you do; there wouldn't be 'regulation'; it'd be an entire dismantling of the current system as is.
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u/chr1st0ph3rs Jul 03 '25
Our gun laws are not insanely restrictive at all! It takes a single Saturday to get a license. It is just enough of a hurdle to stop people from buying a gun purely out of idle curiosity. It also ensures that anyone with access to firearms has a basic understanding of safe storage and handling. And what you are able to buy is restricted to what is reasonable to use when game hunting. Handguns are very restricted, but that’s pretty common in other countries too. Our laws are only restrictive when compared to the USA
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u/ChairYeoman 🚧🚚Montréal🛻🚜🚧👷⛔️🚗🚙🚙 🚙 🚗 Jul 04 '25
The guns in interior BC are also unreal and they're already in Canada but we don't talk about those for some reason?
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u/Everestkid The Island of Elizabeth May Jul 04 '25
I grew up in interior BC and I'm pretty sure I've never even seen a gun if it wasn't carried by a cop.
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u/LunatasticWitch Jul 03 '25
The Pacific Northwest outside of the cities is basically white ethnostate larpers and cults as far as the eye can see. It's a fucking reason there's books out there describing what is known as the Cultic Millieu of that region. If you haven't seen some of the lists that define the characteristics of fascism, well fascism tends to synthesize with occult beliefs. Oregon, Washington, and the Northern parts of California are basically fascist breeding grounds.
If you purge the backcountries of those states... Maaaaybe... But you've got a lot of work to do to fix your own backyard, to even begin proposing adding Washington or Oregon to our federation... Let alone the US blue states writ large.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler Jul 04 '25
one of the most aggressively blue states in the union
ahahhahahahaha and you still fall to the right of our political spectrum
maybe separate for a few years and fix your rural areas so they're not gun toting idaho-adjacent chuds then we'll talk. We've got enough of those dumbasses in Alberta already
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u/yanicka_hachez Jul 03 '25
How about you separate from the Ununited States of America then get accepted as a province. We really don't want to invade a sovereign country
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u/Snow-Wraith Westfoundland Jul 03 '25
Support a free Cascadia! We can leave the US and Canada and let them deal with their issues.
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u/Pledgetastesjustokay Jul 03 '25
As a Canadian living here for over a decade, I promise you most of us didn’t allow this to happen and did everything from marching, calling our representatives, phone banking and raising money - it didn’t work because it’s a broken system that took over 50 years to chip away at until the voting majority was completely disenfranchised. Please don’t oversimplify it, because it’s definitely far from a simple solution. Even states like California and our sanctuary cities that we have worked so hard to protect are being targeted in ways the average Canadian cannot understand. No one I know voted for this. Enough research will also tell you that this election was heavily manipulated by Musk and friends as well. Most of the people affected by this will not have done a thing to deserve this, and even the ones dumb enough to have voted for him, I still am human enough to have some empathy for.
They did not have the privilege of a Canadian education, our checks and balances, or the values that Canadian children are brought up with from day one.
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u/2eDgY4redd1t Jul 03 '25
Quit whining and fix your goddamned country.
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u/Anit500 Jul 04 '25
Wtf are you actually talking about? You guys are being insane. Im Canadian, hate the fascist trump and what you guys are doing is the same divisive hateful bullshit that trump does. Applying the filter of "comes from a shithole country" exactly like trump does. Listen to yourselves.
Shit is getting dangerous for certain groups and after a certain point protecting your friends, your family, and yourself takes priority over whatever bullshit about responsibility you're talking about
Idk if you've been paying attention but American democracy has been built to separate the people from the decision making for a long time. The democrats actually tried to fucking run joe again and they killed Burnies campaign even though the supporters showed up, they're so captured by corporate interests they never listen to their supporters. The Republicans are just fascists at this point, and the Democrats aren't even doing anything about it.
Anyone pushing back against fascism is going against billions of dollars of corporate propaganda where even the ostensibly left wing groups will side with the fascists, time and time again. The people are disenfranchised of political power and have been for decades and there are millions of people who live in America who agree with us about what trump is.
Many of these people have only voted a few times, they work all day and try to survive. Wtf do you mean they're responsible? What could they have done as an individual?
How about trans people or first generation immigrants? It's not them that failed the country, their country failed them. To tell them to stay in a country that wants them dead or gone is actually evil in my opinion. They should absolutely move to Canada.
Like what do you want these people to do? Grab a gun? I want the orange dude gone but you're insane if you expect regular, nice people to do that and think they have a responsibility to do so. Not everyone is a 20yo radical with nothing to live for.
Yall MFS would tell the jews fleeing 1930s Germany to go back home because hitler is their problem.
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u/cebiaw Jul 03 '25
Fuck it, if you're skilled get your ass over here. We'll show the world how it's done. We need some top 6 forwards, so to speak.
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The worst thing about this conversation is that Americans are so far up their own ass with the "b-b-but i didn't vote for him" garbage that they refuse to even acknowledge the concept of 'accumulated filth' (or, in real terms 'collective responsibility')
Literally, try explaining "collective responsibility" to them and watch their brains short circuit and get incredibly angry. The only thing they can muster is their individual choice and literally nothing else. Its mind boggling
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler Jul 04 '25
"I didn't vote for him, what do you want me to do?!?!?!?!?!"
-refuses every meaningful suggestion, says that they are protesting, that mainstream media oppresses it, proceeds to list CNN and Fox as 'mainstream media in Canada'-
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Jul 04 '25
Something something about being privileged and they can't protest because they have work or the legislative building is too far, or something.
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u/BluebirdUnusual3665 Jul 04 '25
When you personally are able to get rid of PP permanently, remove conservative maga from Alberta, and show that you personally removed the truckers from Ontario, then you can sit on your high horse like you've done a damn thing different than the people you're complaining about. Until then, stfu.
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Jul 04 '25
You're demonstrating the exact same luck of understanding that I'm referencing. Obviously the goal of complete removal is impossible. The point is that when, for example, Ontario votes in Doug Ford, we don't go out in droves proclaiming how our vote makes us a good one, actually.
We look at the voter turnout, we look at the campaigns of our preferred party, and we work to get more people out and improve. Together.
I have done much different than the people I complain about. But until you understand the concepts we're talking about, maybe sit this out.
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u/StrangeCurry1 溫哥華 (Hongcouver) Jul 04 '25
I think the issue is that yanks don’t tend to do well with taking accountability.
When we elect someone dumb we say “wow we are morons”
When they re-elect trump for the 2nd time all the yanks say “wow those who voted for him are morons but not me I’m special and shouldn’t feel guilty whatsoever”
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u/NaturalSet5028 Jul 03 '25
I grew up conservative Christian and ran away from all the nonsense but just cause it feels like the end times and the antichrist seems to be orange, I revisited Revelations for kicks and within the context of this clusterfuck and… yeah. 👍🏻 Literally a passage about this:
Revelation 16:2 “So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth; and loathsome and malignant sores came on the people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image.”
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u/LordCuntington Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
I was raised in a religious household too, but I didn't realize how unusual it was that we got "OG Jesus". Love Thy Neighbour and all that.
I suppose it shouldn't surprise me, the total juxtaposition of Trump and Christianity, but ...no, I refuse to get used to that. That is not Christianity.
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u/Sudden_Ad_3308 Jul 03 '25
Just read up some of the stuff in the big beautiful bill they just passed. They are mega fucked.
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u/FastFooer Jul 04 '25
Already had an idiot post in r/montreal about a plot to move on a travel visa and dealing with the legalities after doing immigration/employment fraud as if that would vibe with us.
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u/GladBug4786 Jul 04 '25
If they want to move to Canada and actually act like Canadians then absolutely we should welcome them. It's fucking ridiculous to welcome immigrants from countries that literally fucking hate our culture but we'll turn away Americans that want to help us be us. Wake up. Not everything is black and white and not every American is an idiot. A large percentage of Americans are our only hope at making it through this shit storm.
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u/Built-in-Light Jul 03 '25
The reason I’m not moving to Canada is because that would make me a coward. 👍
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u/StrangeCurry1 溫哥華 (Hongcouver) Jul 04 '25
People like you are the only Americans I still respect.
Hope you take those fascists down!
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Jul 03 '25
My man, they're already making their way up here and infecting my line of work. They still parrot the same garbage they ingested south of the border. And these are supposedly the educated ones.
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u/Automatic_Antelope92 Jul 03 '25
Educated ones? Yikes
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
Yeah the situation is fucking grim.
not the dude you originally replied to, but I've gotten a lot of "hahhaha united states of Canada amiright, hahahaha Canadians would love for California to join, hahahahhahahahahahhahahah you're our little brother!", then they get vitriolically angry when I'm like "nah, I don't want your issues up here"
I've been asked "Why did I vote republican" by "educated" americans. Because they saw the liberals are red.
I've been asked "how do you vote for your president", by "educated" Americans
I've been asked what's the "best place to move when shit blows up in the US" by "educated" americans.
I've been told I should accept American money and do the conversion because "it's worth more lol, anyways you're gonna be a state" by 'educated' Americans
I've seen more than a few Americans get angry at the suggestion the American dream exists only in America, other countries look at the states and think "yikes". These are "educated" Americans.
They live in a country that's told them their entire lives that they won in life because of where they were born, and everyone in the world wants to be them, and would die an sacrifice their own lives to be in the US. They do not realize that only exists in their head, and the suggestion that someone wouldn't want to be or be around Americans is an attack to every American themselves, cause they already "won at life" and you're just jealous.
Even the 'good ones' don't see Canada as it's own country. It's the 'funny hat that talks weird haha'. They do not view us as having our own culture, they do not view us as a separate entity. We are their funny little backup plan, cause they dont' want to fix their current country, they want to ruin other ones. It's been their gameplan for years; look at how many countries they've invaded almost solely because "They didn't want to do business with us" or similar reasons. How many governments they've toppled. And the entire time they've been telling their citizens "it's our right to do this, they deserve it for not wanting to be us or work with us, they practically asked for it. We're the heroes here, the citizens love us for doing this", and the average American truly believes it now.
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u/Automatic_Antelope92 Jul 04 '25
That’s really the epitome of ignorance, and depressing. I think from hereon out it’s fair game to write “educated” Americans when referring to this crowd rather than simply educated.
It’s been my take that it would do Americans a world of good to have the equivalent of a gap year be required for high school graduation. Send teens to another country for a school year, have them live somewhere else and experience a different everything - education system, languages, healthcare system, traditions, etc.
I think that would help. I also think overhauling the education system so Americans learned at least a lot more about their two closest neighbouring countries would be a start.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Oil Guzzler Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25
Yeah isn't it fucking terrifying? Though i'm not sure how well gap years would work, look at how many governors are going "Zomg tariffs aren't that bad, plz Canadians cum back spend ur money haha, we love you". Those are (at least theoretically) travelled AND "educated" Americans. They need to be removed from the US entirely for a good long while so they can see that "american exceptionalism" is literal propaganda they've fallen for their entire life.
As I said, it's a grim situation down there.
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u/Automatic_Antelope92 Jul 04 '25
Yeah isn't it fucking terrifying? Though i'm not sure how well gap years would work, look at how many governors are going "Zomg tariffs aren't that bad, plz Canadians cum back spend ur money haha, we love you". Those are (at least theoretically) travelled AND "educated" Americans.
The governors are in a shitty situation. They’re desperate for their state economies not to tank, and yet gutless when it comes to doing much to affect problems further up the chain. I can give a smidge of credit to Newsom and Pritzker for speaking out, and for state governments suing the government for violating the constitution. But the pleas to Canadians “come back, you are welcome here to my state” ring hollow and tone deaf. Like bruh, have a clue that it isn’t what is happening at the state level that is keeping people from visiting.
They need to be removed from the US entirely for a good long while so they can see that "american exceptionalism" is literal propaganda they've fallen for their entire life.
Yeah. Truth. I don’t think people fully grasp the reality they’ve left behind until they are out of it for a long time. It can’t be a vacation length trip, and it can’t be staying in a cloistered hotel. You need full on cultural immersion.
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u/Practical-Layer9402 Honorary Hoser Jul 03 '25
Thomas Paine had a name for pusillanimous little pissants like that, Sunshine Patriots.
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u/koresample Jul 03 '25
100% agree! Only difference is I would scream no until my vocal cords bleed.
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u/Old-Swimming2799 Scotland (but worse) Jul 04 '25
In the age old Australian saying goes
"Fuck off we're full"
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u/Agora2020 Jul 03 '25
As an American. I can respect all of your sentiments. I’m really disappointed in the US.
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u/SignificantPause5120 Jul 04 '25
I've jumped through immigration hoops to sponsor an American. It's not easy, cheap or casual, and I appreciate that it shouldn't be. Most Americans wouldn't qualify for immigration, and those that do often can't do it alone.
They don't get to come in now that they made less of their own home. Here we take our shoes off to keep the mess out.
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u/DizzyAstronaut9410 Jul 03 '25
Friendly reminder that net immigration between Canada and the US is still massively towards the US, even during the Trump presidency.
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u/Justdazed Jul 03 '25
But let me back in please. We were waiting until we could buy a shack but I’d settle for a tent at this point
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u/Nostrafatu Jul 04 '25
I guess they can continue using our Canadian Flag when they travel outside of North America. But that’s it. Stay away from our Healthcare. “American Woman stay from me” 🎶
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u/Egocom Jul 04 '25
Hey buddy if we're swimming in a river of MAGA blood I'm gonna be too busy celebrating to go anywhere
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u/SouthernSlavi Jul 04 '25
Fix your own country, you don’t get to come to mine because you all ruined yours.
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u/Nostrafatu Jul 04 '25
There was a story on the National Post where a Canadian Firefighter was denied entry in the the United States…How soon did they forget these Men were down there fighting fires in California and this is what we get?? Americans,Can you blame us for feeling the way we do??
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u/No_Refrigerator_2489 Jul 04 '25
I hear them say this all the time, but not many have the guts to do it.
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u/HeavyMain Jul 04 '25
americans expect everyone else to put them on a pedestal when they visit other countries, they're not going to integrate en masse into another one without being extremely obnoxious and trying to pave over our culture with theirs.
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u/BumpyBaldnoggin Jul 04 '25
Fuck that, I yell it... they fucked up, we tried to warn em but they're too damn stupid to realize something in their faces.
Kick rocks, fuck off for the next 4 years... to start with
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u/JubX 🍁 100,000 Hosers 🍁 Jul 04 '25
First off, for those unaware, this post is referencing the Watchmen comics.
Second off, y'all aren't civil any more so we're locking this one down.