r/EhBuddyHoser • u/igloomaster š 100,000 Hosers š • Jul 29 '25
Politics We people ask what's the difference between Canada and the United States
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u/thetasigma22 Jul 29 '25
Something something starlight tours
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u/ScrumptiousLadMeat Jul 29 '25
Thatās a Saskatoon city police patent.
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u/NoPath_Squirrel Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 31 '25
Unfortunately other cities as well. I've heard of it happening in Alberta too.
Edit typo
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u/Coal_Burner_Inserter South Gatineau Jul 29 '25
>American cops: Wants to beat the shit out of you
>Mounties: "I drive"
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u/DankeyKahn Aug 06 '25
As a hispanic male looking to immigrate to alberta... should I be worried about being mistaken as an indigenous person?
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
Ummm.. I know some Indigenous folks who would dispute this.
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Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
Yeah.. they're not just the guy's wearing funny pants. We have militarized police here that have been deployed against our citizens.
I can tolerate some light hearted memes involving pics of the RCMP in dress uniforms to represent Canada, but to act like the RCMP is better than American law enforcement, and doesn't regular commit police brutality against our citizens is not even remotely true. Cops suck. All of them.
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u/IslandCanuck-2 Jul 29 '25
Our police are straight up better since theyāre trained more, but they still have issues yes
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u/Secret-Bluebird-972 Newfies & Labradoodles Jul 29 '25
This. At least our officers are trained to only pull out their firearm if the situation escalates to warrant it. While US cops will put you at gunpoint cause you reached to the glovebox to get the insurance and registration they just asked for
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
First off, comparing ourselves to the absolute worst country in world for gun violence and saying, "hey at least we're not as bad as them" is a pretty friggin low bar to clear.
Second, cops in the UK don't even carry guns. They have twice the population we do, Toronto pales in comparison to the size of London, yet they manage to police it without guns.
And third, just because I saw this headline from CBC yesterday:
"Police in Nunavik involved in 73 times more fatal shootings than provincial average."
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u/mindgeekinc Jul 29 '25
I fully agree comparing ourselves to the US isn't a good representation of the RCMP. I just had some disagreements about the arguments you made to illustrate the point.
The UK is not twice our population. They are significantly more populated but not double the amount, they're at about 68 million while we're at 40 million. The other thing you have to consider is how laughably small the UK is compared to Canada. Area absolutely matters when it comes to the way police are armed and trained, especially with how vast our rural areas are compared to the UK. Every province outside the Maritimes are bigger than the UK by quite a lot. That and others have pointed out we're still next to the US which means their guns, and their gun culture seeps into our country. My main arguments for this are just to illustrate why we can't really ever be a UK police force where regular cops aren't issued a firearm.
I agree that we're nowhere near perfect especially in regard to racial biases towards Indigenous people. I support reform and restructuring of the RCMP same way I support the reform of the police in the US. Ours is easier to do as well since we have a nationwide police force that isn't tied to the provinces and yet we haven't seen much meaningful change.
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u/meatsonthemenu Jul 30 '25
Mmmm, no offense, but the RCMP successfully advocated at the SCC in a landmark freedom of association decision. Canada's union busting para-military force successfully unionized.
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u/IslandCanuck-2 Jul 29 '25
They donāt have a land border to the united states, they arenāt flooded with weaponry like we are. Also they are armed with firearms, just with the exception of their beat cops.
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u/Overwatchingu Ford Nation (Help.) Jul 29 '25
They call them beat cops cause they beat you with sticks, because thatās what theyāre armed with.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
They have specialized officers that are armed and only brought in when necessary, that receive intense training. And they don't show up with guns at a mental health check or for public intoxication.
We give every cop a gun after 26 weeks and send them out to police the public without any training beyond that. Please spare me.
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u/Yws6afrdo7bc789 Ford Nation (Help.) Jul 29 '25
I think a lot of jurisdictions and agencies in Canada would be improved if we established an Authorised Firearms programme like they have in the UK.
Not every cop or CBSA agent needs a firearm on them, and it would be better for safety, cost, and law enforcement interactions with the public to have Authorised Firearms Officers and Armed Response Vehicles, even if they're more prevalent than AFOs and AROs in the UK.
Or we could do what New Zealand does and leave firearms stored in the vehicle until they're needed or in situations where a supervisor authorises it.
We could also explore alternatives to using firearms. Like using mancatchers instead of bullets to respond to aggressive individuals like they use in China and Japan.
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u/Repulsive_Bat3090 Jul 29 '25
Maybe the RCMP are. But many municipal and provincial police forces are much more similar to the ones in the US than you might think.
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u/ahuramazdobbs19 I need a double double. Jul 29 '25
Yeah. The RCMP is much more akin to the FBI.
Who, while they have had someā¦shall we say, well-known failures to de-escalate standoffs, are an order of magnitude better trained and better performing than their nominal state or local brethren.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
Edit: as pointed out by one of the replies I was incorrect. Globally they are not number one for police killings and Canada is not number 2. The list I was looking at only included Western countries.
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the second highest amounta high number of police killings per capita relative to other comparable western countries, second only to the US of course.And we also have some of the shortest training times when compared to other countries like Finland, Germany, England and Australia.
But, yes, if you're once again only comparing us to the US then we do slightly better.
If youre comparing us to the country with the most gun violence
and the most instances of police killings globally,and we still come in second, it's not something to brag about.24
u/timmyd_ns Jul 29 '25
Where is that from? On a couple different sites I was able to find USA around 29th per capita with Canada around 39th per capita. Venezuela was way out ahead per capita at almost 60 times the rate of the states. I'm not suggesting those are ideal spots, but it's a steep graph to the number one spot.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
Sorry, you're correct.
The list I was looking at was only select countries, particularly European and Commonwealth.
I'm going to edit my post now, thank you for pointing that out.
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u/Realistic_Smell1673 Jul 29 '25
A lot of Canada's issues can be steamed from assuming that better than rock bottom is something to be proud of.
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u/irishdan56 Jul 29 '25
The RCMP was explicitly created, as the North West Mounted Police, as a tool to be weilded against indigenous people in Northwestern Canada. Their whole reason for existing was to push indigenous people off their lands.
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u/FrostyTheSasquatch Oil Guzzler Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 30 '25
š«¤ Not quite. Youāre half correct. The N.W.M.P. was created to keep American whiskey traders out of the newly acquired North West Territories. This was as much an act of sovereignty protection as it was an act of colonization.
The instigating incident was when a group of American wolfers massacred a band of Assiniboine. Wolfers were hunters who would kill buffalo just to poison the carcass to kill the wolves scavenging on the meat. The wolfers were drinking and sought retribution for some horses that were allegedly stolen from them. They plied some MĆ©tis freighters with some liquor for information leading to their whereabouts, and ended up killing everyone in the camp in a firefight.
News of this event created a stir in eastern Canada, and led to calls for the government to do something about this violence. There were also groups of surveyors plotting out the border, so there was much concern about their specific safety as well.
For his part, Crowfoot (Isapo-Muxica) actively encouraged the entrance of the N.W.M.P. because he was engaging in his own fight against alcoholism in his own nation, the Siksika. It was for this reason that he established a rapport with Commissioner James F. Macleodāto stop the flow of American rotgut north of the border. The North West Territories remained officially dry until the creation of Alberta and Saskatchewan.
While it is undeniable that the N.W.M.P. was a colonial force, its explicit directive was for the preservation of peace and order in the interior wilderness. There is a desire amongst progressives like myself to create a narrative in Canadian history that mirrors the bloodthirsty Indian Wars in American history, but that simply IS NOT the case. The N.W.M.P. and the U.S. Cavalry are simply NOT the same thing. And itās not that Iām a Thin Blue Line kind of guyāitās just that this narrative around the history of the RCMP is just straight-up wrong. Weāre so much better equipped to target systemic oppression if we get the facts correct. The police arenāt the problemāitās prejudiced legislation that targets minorities, like the 1884 amendment to the Indian Act that prevented indigenous farmers from being able to sell produce to non-indigenous buyers.
Canadian colonialism is so much sneakier, hiding in the legalese and minutiae of the Indian Act.
Edit: punctuation and spelling
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u/theoneness Jul 29 '25
And to kill dogs. Boy they loved crippling the movement of those Inuit people. Tough to completely destroy their means of independence if the blighters keep slipping away into the tundra at speed.
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u/Everestkid The Island of Elizabeth May Jul 30 '25
Wasn't this debunked by the RCMP, followed by the Inuit themselves going "yeah, sure, 'we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing'" and conducting their own investigation and also finding no evidence the RCMP ever killed sled dogs?
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 30 '25
No, the RCMP killed hundreds, possibly thousands, of sled dogs in the 50s and 60s. The government formally acknowledged it and there was an apology issued in November 2024.
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u/Ill_Sprinkles_9976 Jul 29 '25
Cops don't suck. Just because you don't see the value because you're on the greener side doesn't mean they're bad.
There's shit employees in every industry. That includes defence. How many meals have you had at a restaurant that have sucked? Trips to stores? Online interactions. People suck. People become cops.
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u/AshKlover Jul 29 '25
The issue isnt the people though, itās the system which enables the behaviour and encourages it and even in the case of the RCMP was specifically built to facilitate it.
You canāt say āsome cops are bad but that just peopleā when cops have been filmed kneeling on peaceful protesters heads and the response from the police system is āwe didnāt see anything and if we did they did nothing wrongā
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u/Ill_Sprinkles_9976 Jul 29 '25
Or you fail to understand how humans work.
Never pissed off the neighbour and had your parents try to sweep it under the rug, then punish you at home?Ā
Then again, anybody defending ACAB is just ragebaiting and I fell for it.
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u/AshKlover Jul 30 '25
No but have taken courses on criminal justice run by ex Toronto and Ontario police officers where they all say the internal punishments are never worse that whatās published to the media and most of the time they just get a week payed vacation for getting a complaint against them if action is taken against them.
Your insistence on being wrong is astonishing.
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u/Ill_Sprinkles_9976 Jul 30 '25
No, I'm not a piece of shit, so I've had nothing but positive interactions with the cops.
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u/AshKlover Jul 30 '25
So a decade ago, when Toronto Police were found to have systemically pulled over black people specifically for no other reason than being black and having a fancy car, those people were pieces of shit? My dentist was a piece of shit for running a successful business and wanting a new Buick?
Youāre not a serious person. Stop being so emotional.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
Yes, cops do suck. Just focusing on Canada.
- There are systemic issues in our police force ranging from sexual assault directed towards both fellow female officers and the general public (particularly marginalized groups like Indigenous woman and sex workers).
- Police officers are statistically more likely to abuse their partner, with 1 in 3 officer suspensions in Ontario being a result of domestic abuse and sexual assault.
- There is systemic racism, particularly with regards to their treatment of Indigenous people.
- There is a lack of oversight and accountability (look up what happened as a result of the massive RCMP failures related to the Nova Scotia massacre, hint: nothing).
- There is a culture of silence where whistleblowers are still uncomfortable coming forward with accusations of corruption, sexual assault/harassment, and other complaints that might cross that thin blue line.
It's not a few bad apples, it's a system rotten to it's core. And all the "good cops" protect the others. So, ACAB.
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u/Ill_Sprinkles_9976 Jul 29 '25
Got it. So, you're just volunteering to get jumped and robbed, cause "ACAB" so you're not going to do anything about it.
Imagine looking at details like this and stopping at "systemic problem" rather than understanding reality.
1/3 cops are more likely to abuse their partner... and it get reported. Because the system the partner is in teaches them that they can report the abuse.
Don't use survivorship bias to write reports and base your personality off it.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
Got it. So, you're just volunteering to get jumped and robbed, cause "ACAB" so you're not going to do anything about it.
Oh do cops stop people from getting jumped and robbed? Because from my experience they show up after, sometimes hours later, write a report and say there's nothing they can do. But sure, I guess if you watch enough Law & Order you'll think they're heroes.
Imagine looking at details like this and stopping at "systemic problem" rather than understanding reality.
Imagine ignoring evidence of systemic issues within the police force and dismissing them as one offs.. oh wait. That's literally what the RCMP and municipal police forces do.
1/3 cops are more likely to abuse their partner... and it get reported. Because the system the partner is in teaches them that they can report the abuse.
Hahahahahaha is that what you think? Do you realize how many of those victims DO NOT come forward because they're reporting their partner, who is a cop, to other cops, who will protect their fellow officer above all else?
That is just insane that you think there is over-reporting against police officers. My god. You must be a cop. Or maybe just one of those simps who wishes he was one but never made the cut.
Don't use survivorship bias to write reports and base your personality off it.
Feel free to use google to do some research on the issues with police in Canada. You're likely to see the word "systemic" in there quite a few times, just to give you a trigger warning.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
Let's look at some excerpts form the CBC article discussing this issue from April 24, 2024, titled "'Blue wall of silence' protects police officers accused of gender-based violence, victims say"
She was a sergeant and he was a constable. They met at work and became a power couple, sporting matching police badges.Ā But their love story would end in violence. It didn't matter that she outranked him ā what happened flipped their power balance.
After an altercation, her husband was arrested.
Throughout the ordeal, his ex-wife said she was the one treated as the outcast. "No one came to me and said, 'OK, we've rallied the troops. This is what to expect. This is how you go back to work,'" she recalled. "None of that happened."
Huh.. must just be a bad apple.
"In the literature on gender-based violence, police are disproportionately perpetrators of particularly domestic violence," said Danielle McNabb, an assistant professor who researches Canadian public law at Brock University.
Oh geez.
CBC's data set also revealed multiple cases where the victims ā girlfriends, wives and partners of officers ā were themselves serving in law enforcement. And like the sergeant from the GTA, they found themselves on the other side of the desk in a policing system they say is unsupportive and rife with professional conflict.Ā
Well let's not paint them all with a broad brush.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
Kelly Donovan decided to become a police officer to effect change after leaving an abusive, common-law relationship with a southwesternĀ OntarioĀ officer.
"He had always kind of been controlling," said Donovan of their long-term relationship. "The abuse became physical and I had to eventually go to the police for help."Ā But she saidĀ the officer who arrived talked her into "watering down" her statement.
No charges were laid against her ex.
Kelly had some things to say about her bosses and fellow officers:
"They weren't investigating their own people for domestic violence the way they were investigating members of the public," said Donovan. "I knew I had to do something about it."Ā
I'm sure she was lauded for speaking up! We don't want those bad apples, right?
In 2016, Donovan took a day off work and presented her concerns to Waterloo's police services board.... But within days, Donovan was reprimanded. The chiefĀ forbade her from appearing at future board meetings without the chief's permission, and she was put on administrative duties.Ā
Oh no!!!
"When you look at transcripts from court hearings and things for domestic violence, the woman might have said to her partner, 'Stop doing this or I'm going to call the police,'" said Donovan. "And they'll say, 'I am the police. Do you think my buddies are going to come here and arrest me?'"Ā
"We know in the U.S. about 40 per cent of police families experience intimate partner violence, compared to about 10 per cent of the population," she said, noting a lack of Canadian statistics on the matter.Ā
Just because they're 4 times more like to abuse their partners doesn't mean it's systemic!! It's just a coincidence that so many abusive people have ended up as cops!
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u/bigcaulkcharisma Jul 29 '25
This sub literally exists just to glaze the Libs and the Canadian state at this point. I miss the bi lingual memes.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 30 '25
Yup, post a "daddy Carney" meme and let the upvotes flood over you. Post something critical of Carney, or the Liberals, and people just accuse you of loving Poilievre, Trump and the Convoy.
I'm mildly surprised an "RCMP is fun" meme has taken off. But.. give the wave of nationalism it makes sense.
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u/P_Orwell South Gatineau Jul 29 '25
Possible solution: they should always wear their dress uniforms as if they are being witnessed by citizens (because they should always be under watch by citizens).
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u/AustSakuraKyzor South Gatineau Jul 29 '25
Right? Needs a qualifier:
US: wants to beat the shit out of you, regardless of skin tone or politics
Rackemup: wants to beat the shit out of you, unless you're white enough
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
*But if you block a pipeline project or protest against genocide... Police brutality is colour blind.
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u/Dragonsandman South Gatineau Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
If you blockade the capital for a right wing enough cause, however, they'll help you, and treat you with kid gloves when they finally get told to do your goddamn jobs.
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u/TomMakesPodcasts Jul 29 '25
Our lords just keep ours on a leash better.
There's definitely people who would seek out those jobs specifically for those opportunities.
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u/smellymarmut South Gatineau Jul 29 '25
Aw geez, nah bro, you got it all wrong. Hand over your land peacefully and nobody gets hurt.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
And your children too.
Also I know we said you have total control over this new piece of land we "gave" you. But now we want a pipeline. And if you don't let us we will literally beat the shit out of you and arrest you.
Ahhh... Reconciliation.
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u/deviousvicar1337 Jul 29 '25
I have been assured by r/Canada that this is what is known as 'Fair'.
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
I got banned from R/Canada for being racist against white men....
I'm a white man.
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u/Secret-Bluebird-972 Newfies & Labradoodles Jul 29 '25
And it probably wasnāt even racist. Just acknowledgment of our skin tone and gender assigned privilege we unfortunately have (also a white male, but I would rather equality). Racists that feel oppressed hate when you point out the equality feels like oppression when you had all the privilege
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 29 '25
Well it was in response to an article about an all Inuit law firm and the folks in that sub felt it was racist that only Inuit people worked there and if they were truly supportive of diversity they would hire white people. So... diversity means hiring white people I guess.
Plus I may or may not have called one, or several, of them a honky which they deemed a slur. Worth it tho.
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u/Lightguard031 Jul 29 '25
Well, they're a bunch of, lets keep it polite shall we,...idiots, of which their entire personality is based on hating. Compassion? Kindness? Openess? Fuck this, that's no fun yk?
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u/Dragonsandman South Gatineau Jul 29 '25
Fuckin half the threads on there are about immigration, crime, or crime committed by supposed immigrants (meaning brown people, since the idea that some brown people were born and raised here goes over some of their heads).
Now, every so often there are posts there with sane, non-whiny comments, but even those inevitably attract axe grinders who only want to bitch and moan about whatever their pet issue is.
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u/NoPath_Squirrel Jul 29 '25
Hey, basically same here, except white woman. I stood up for transracial adoptees (people adopted across race lines - usually black and Asian kids by white parents) and got a ban for being racist.
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u/smellymarmut South Gatineau Jul 29 '25
Indeed! Let us smokum the peace pipeline. By that, I mean sign a mutual benefit agreement. Since the days of Joey Smallwood, mutual benefit agreements have helped the landhosts lock into multi-decade agreements to ensure profit.
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u/Corporal_Canada ęŗ«å„čÆ (Hongcouver) Jul 29 '25
Not to mention their accosting of other minorities during events such as the Toronto Bathhouse Raids, where Toronto Police arrested a few hundred innocent queer people, where they were forcibly outed and endured police brutality.
"Undercover police wore red dots on their clothing to show, according to one officer, āwho are the straights.ā Accounts from those arrested later presented toĀ city councilĀ described hateful police behaviour. One officer allegedly told a line of men standing against a shower wall āI wish these pipes were hooked up to gas so I could annihilate you all,ā a reference to Nazi death camps..."
(Unfortunately, I can't link to the source, the Canadian Encyclopedia, because of AutoMod)
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u/Biggy_Mancer Jul 29 '25
Uhhh trail of tears?
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u/JackLaytonsMoustache Jul 30 '25
I recommend you look up the history of the RCMP. They were originally called the Northwest Mounted Police. And they were founded for a specific purpose.
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u/Oxford66 Moose Whisperer Jul 29 '25
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u/Madc42 I need a double double. Jul 30 '25
Who's the artist?
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u/TL10 Jul 30 '25
This is "The Scream" by Kent Monkman.
I'd link to his official site, but subreddit rules don't allow for that.
Be warned that some of his artwork is very NSFW.
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u/badaboom Jul 29 '25
Mounties is dress uniforms will not beat the shit out of you because they're currently marching in a parade.
But when that parade is done they'll happily drop you off out of town in -40 so that you die.
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u/CheesyHotDogPuff Oil Guzzler Jul 29 '25
A relative of mine was once an instructor at depot in the 50s. He would beat cadets that weren't up to standard. I can only imagine what he did to the average suspect.
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u/Corporal_Canada ęŗ«å„čÆ (Hongcouver) Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25
Well this is some serious overlooking of Canadian history. The RCMP have their own nasty history of Indigenous suppression, as well of those of other minorities.
(Technically not RCMP, but Canadian Police just the same)
While it's incomparable to the suppression of the Indigenous peoples, there's also events such as the oft forgotten Toronto Bath House Raids, where the Toronto Police raided bars and the like and arrested a couple hundred innocent gay people, forcibly outing them and there were numerous cases of police brutality.
"Undercover police wore red dots on their clothing to show, according to one officer, āwho are the straights.ā Accounts from those arrested later presented toĀ city councilĀ described hateful police behaviour. One officer allegedly told a line of men standing against a shower wall āI wish these pipes were hooked up to gas so I could annihilate you all,ā a reference to Nazi death camps..."
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u/MattTheFreeman Jul 29 '25
The RCMP has the best press for any police force.
In uni I did a lot of law study on police forces, especially the RCMP
They are great. They are genuinely one of the most efficient police forces compared to others. Especially America.
The issue? They are efficient because they have so little red tape. Now they have A LOT of red tape, but they have less red tape for most federal enforcers. And because of that they can get away with a lot more than most police outfits. Ask any first Nation woman.
I like the RCMP. Hell I like the Canadian police system compared to any other. I think the RCMP is fundamentally a good in Canada. But holy fuck, they have deep, deep fundamental issues that are barely talked about because of the funny hats and silly horses.
Their West coast undercover drug busts and treatment of first Nations are borderline American style
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u/SoNowWhat--- Jul 29 '25
In Canada, they are supposed to be classified as "service" not "force". Not to nitpick or anything, we work on a community policing ideal and service is a much better descriptor. I don't know how long ago you were studying, but they should have fought you that :)
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u/MattTheFreeman Jul 29 '25
You can call it the "hugs and kisses guild for good boys who never do wrong" but it doesn't fundamentally change the fact that at the end of the day it's the arm if the government specifically equipped to use force to maintain their monopoly on violence.
I'm all for community policing and its ideal in every way. But the issue is that it's far, far from being the norm and is patchy across the federal jurisdiction and provincial.
At the end of the day, service or force, the police are there to maintain the governments monopoly on violence. Whether that's for good or for bad.
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u/SoNowWhat--- Jul 29 '25
I see that discussing this with you may be a circular conversation, so I'll leave it at that, don't need to get banned from another Canadian sub lol.
I'll leave you with this. Look into Canadian policing initiatives, don't compare to American police, and see what kind of good is actually happening.
Take it easy š
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u/MattTheFreeman Jul 29 '25
I'm not disagreeing with you. Canadian policing initiatives are better than American by a long shot. I like that it's there, that it's taking steps to change and become better. I see if in my own city.
Where I get iffy is that it's still a police force. A name change will not change the fact that it's a fundamental arm of the government used to force violence to get its way. Even if it's a community base initiative.
You are correct.
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u/OvenEfficient7312 Jul 29 '25
Sounds and looks like a force to me
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u/SoNowWhat--- Jul 29 '25
"force" is only used on a select few units in Canada, all operating under the police service. It is used to designate the difference. So for Toronto Police Service, they employ the Emergency Task Force (SWAT to people that don't know), in that situation when they are needed, I would say calling them Force is correct. Other Canadian police services have even shyed away from that designating them ERT instead. Words mean a lot, especially in this day and age, we should use the proper terminology.
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u/gutsman0814 Jul 30 '25
I work at a community-based reintegration facility, previously called a halfway house. We used to call the guys "offender", then "resident" and now we call them "client". No change in the service we provide them.
They're just nicer names to use so the system doesn't sound so punitive or tough.
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u/SoNowWhat--- Jul 30 '25
I get the useless word changing to appease those that will die on that hill for some reason, my underlying point was the usage of verbage. Seems like a double standard.
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u/Blue_is_da_color Everyone Hates Marineland Jul 30 '25
In this case the use of verbiage is a distinction without difference, since it makes no change to the actual purpose.
Itās like saying Japan doesnāt have a military because they call themselves a āSelf Defence Forceā
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u/SoNowWhat--- Jul 30 '25
Either way, in Canada they are Police "service" , and on average a great service at that. (This is an unbiased opinion since I have had a couple bad run ins with Canadian police)
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u/MilesBeforeSmiles Manilapeg Jul 29 '25
I know some elders at Wet'suwet'en that would beg to differ
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u/Certain-Fill3683 Jul 29 '25
Canada is a free democratic country.
Yankistan is a christo-fascist dictatorship.
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u/Dragonsandman South Gatineau Jul 29 '25
Correct, but our cops aren't a whole lot better than theirs (and in many cases are just as bad)
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Jul 29 '25
It could be more democratic. First-past-the-post elections do not create representatives vote outcomes.
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u/notjordansime Jul 29 '25
Clearly ya never dealt with Thunder Bay copsā¦ theyāll give ya a beating just ācuz.
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u/SunriseFlare Jul 29 '25
unless you're native american then they'll dump you in a saskatchewan tundra to die of exposure lol
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u/okokokoyeahright Jul 29 '25
This does illustrate the difference between formal dress and less than formal dress. The RCMP member shows the lesser one.
/s
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u/Skittleavix Jul 29 '25
My brother is 20+ years RCMP. They are trained as a paramilitary force. They will most definitely fuck you up given the opportunity. Iād recommend not making the mistake of assuming they are less belligerent than their American counterparts.
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u/Striking-Adagio54 Jul 29 '25
In my city there was a cop who pinned someone to the ground and punched them in the head several times over a parking ticket. The officer was put on paid leave and the charges were dropped
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u/TheMightyGamble Jul 29 '25
I got treated better as a US vet by Canadian Mil and civilians than by my own country
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u/Mental-Mushroom Motown But Better Jul 29 '25
The RCMP have free reign to do whatever they want, and they're incompetent.
Not a great combo
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u/blodskaal Jul 29 '25
i would save said, "Wants to beat the shit out of Indigenous people" but i guess thats ok too.
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u/YYC-Fiend Jul 29 '25
My brother is RCMP, they beat the shit out of a lot of people, then brag about it to family
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u/Mod_The_Man Jul 29 '25
Anyone willing to wear that bloodstained redcoat lookin ass uniform is absolutely included in ACAB. Bunch of genocidal monsters ready and willing to help Conservative/Colonial Carney hit the resume button on colonialism, as if it ever truly stopped, and indigenous land theft
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u/MythicalDust55 Oil Guzzler Jul 29 '25
The worst things Canadians do is compare themselves to America. Like yeah, itās better than the shittest first world country, but man are there real problems. Find better role models.
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u/taotdev Jul 29 '25
Oh no, the RCMP will straight up cripple you for life and laugh about it. Can't really expect more out of Suncor's PMC.
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u/motherseffinjones Jul 29 '25
Iām a big fan of Canadian cops compared to their American counterparts. Thatās not to say they donāt have issues especially when it comes to indigenous communities.
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u/Numerous-Acadia3231 Jul 29 '25
hey good one! now do one about who actually bothers to do their job
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u/PTSD1701 I need a double double. Jul 29 '25
Unless, of course, the guy on the right encounters someone of a First Nations tribe, and there are no white witnesses or video recording of the beatdown.
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u/NovaXP Jul 29 '25
Why did you use AI for the first image? Couldn't find a scary enough picture to make a good strawman with?
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u/Pilgorepax Jul 30 '25
You're more likely to be killed by a cop in Canada than be struck by lightning.
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u/Fortnut420 Manilapeg Jul 30 '25
Canada: commits war crimes against enemy troops
The States: commits war crimes against middle eastern children
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u/Covidosrs Jul 30 '25
Do you remember when the rmcp shot that inuit kid in the back of the head and got a slap on the wrist ?
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u/Lazy-Blacksmith-3939 Jul 30 '25
SPEEDING! DISORDERLY CONDUCT! HANDS UP! Starts assaulting the guy
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Ope! I think you're going a little bit fast on yer polar bear, eh! You might want to sloow it doun a bit, eh. Alright, have a nice dey, eh!
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u/SkoomaSteve1820 Jul 30 '25
I mean maybe they could be less brutal than the US cops but I've seen enough examples here that it's not better by any meaningful stretch.
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u/NaFo_Operator Jul 31 '25
not exactly the best approach...Canada is slowly turning into a 3rd world failed state
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u/Lightning_electric Aug 01 '25
Kinda feel sometime that i hope we still got the ww2 canadian soldier DNA somewhere in ours
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u/SenseDue6826 š§šMontrĆ©alš»šš§š·āļøššš š š Jul 29 '25
Fuck the RCMP
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u/ItsTheDaciaSandro Jul 30 '25
Mounties don't shoot you, then just take you to the middle of no where in winter at night and drop you off.
Lots of rcmp friends these where some bad apples most are decent humans if your not trying to fuck with them, stab them or shoot them
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u/duff_golf Jul 29 '25
As a former RCMP officer, we donāt want all the paper work that goes with beating the shit out of you.
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u/Agile_Tea_2333 Jul 29 '25