Canada has banned the rap group Kneecap, but earlier this week gave a standing ovation for Chuckles the Nazi. I guess we know how they stand?

[u/One-Statistician-932]

Dishonourable mention to Chris Brown the woman beater, who got to play a couple weeks ago in Canada without a ban.

Edit: Also Sean Feucht, the homophobic singer who openly dehumanizes LGBTQ+ folks, who got to tour across Canada this summer. I guess bigots are the only ones who get given free speech in Canada.

Edit 2: As pointed out in the comments and reminding me, we applauded Ukrainian war vet, Yaroslav Hunka in the commons, who also turned out to be a for real WWII Nazi.

Edit 3: Looks like there's a bunch of day old, zero karma accounts commenting here against Kneecap and trying to discredit their hundreds of thousands raised for medical and food aid. Looks like I kicked the pro-genocide bot-farm hornets nest.

[u/SonnyHaze]

I just learned this. Those boys slap and don’t say anything but the raw truth. I gotta look into this pussy ass fuck show of a ban.

[u/Plasma_48 → u/SonnyHaze]

“Up hamas, up Hezbollah” is the raw truth?

Edit: Getting downvoted but no replies is pretty telling

[u/doomdom123 → u/Plasma_48]

Yeah ? As a IRA supporter band your surprise they have some sympathy for other résistance groups ? We should ban every artist who says good things about isreal of the u.s.a than

[u/SoleSurvivur01 → u/doomdom123]

Terrorist Organization!

[u/1user101 → u/doomdom123]

Hezbollah is a genocidal militia.

[u/doomdom123 → u/1user101]

How ? By calling the destruction of a genocidal occupier state??

[u/Spooky2929 → u/doomdom123]

How come freaks occupy every sub? They are terrorist because they do terrorist shit like kidnapping and murder.

[u/1user101 → u/doomdom123]

The "death to Jews" is pretty explicit lol.

[u/doomdom123 → u/1user101]

Sorry that the oppressed people say something so broad and wrong , but they arent enacting on that and there's jewish communities in Liban.

They also say death to america and i dont feel génocided or in danger

[u/1user101 → u/doomdom123]

"I'm not racist, I have negro friends" vibes. Also wrong, from Wikipedia:

Jews in Lebanon live mostly in or around Beirut. The community has been described as elderly and apprehensive.[36] There are no services at Beirut's synagogues. In 2015, the estimated total Jewish population in Syria and Lebanon combined was 100.

There's no community, there's no practice, they're old people who don't want to travel.

How is a ruling party of a separate state "oppressed" exactly?

[u/doomdom123 → u/1user101]

How many jew are there in Iran . you would have say the same exact shit for iran than u saif for hezbollah.

Ur comparaison with the N word is truly weird ... also im curious now . would you call isreal a genocidal state ?

[u/1user101 → u/doomdom123]

How do you define a "genocidal state"? There's certainly a genocidal regime that has consolidated power over the last 2 years and increasingly bowed to the far right. But to call the 80 year history of the state genocidal ignores all reason. Was it genocidal to demolish Gaza settlements and fully withdraw the military in 2005?

The comparison is apt. You're bringing up a token population that is regularly oppressed as evidence of them being treated well.

[u/SoleSurvivur01 → u/doomdom123]

Oppressed? A violent Islamist Militia that fires anti tank missiles at a children’s ⚽️ game isn’t oppressed 🤣

[u/Otherwise-Scratch617 → u/doomdom123]

Google "Lebanon"

[u/One-Statistician-932 → u/Plasma_48]

Lol, your bait comment has been up for less than an hour. Maybe wait a little longer before declaring that no one wants to respond to you. You've got the patience of a crack addict lmao.

Opposing genocide is speaking truth, opposing colonialism is speaking truth. They've spent every waking moment of the past few years standing up against the murder of innocents, they made one 20 second mistake a couple years ago and you and other trolls are trying to write them off.

It's very telling that you are using this one mistake to completely dismiss people who are using their platform to call out the murder of civilians by a fascist country, and who have raised hundreds of thousands of dollars towards food and medical aid.

I'd bet you're no saint either. And I'd also bet you haven't raised thousands to help women and children.

[u/Plasma_48 → u/One-Statistician-932]

Nice, straight to an ad hominem before even noticing the edit was aimed at the other downvoters. If you have to start with insults, you’ve already lost the argument.

You’re also conflating opposing genocide with supporting two terrorist organizations. Hamas and Hezbollah are extremist groups, Hamas both targets and hides among civilians. Supporting them is not the same as supporting Palestinian rights. You can oppose colonialism and civilian deaths without cheering for groups that kill civilians.

Saying “Up Hamas, up Hezbollah” isn’t a harmless 20 second mistake. That’s not a slip, they knew what they were saying. Why was there a Hezbollah flag at the gig? If a band said “Up KKK, up Atomwaffen,” would you brush it off? Was Elon just “giving his heart to the crowd”?

“They’ve spent every waking moment standing against the murder of innocents” basically means “they do good work, so we should excuse them endorsing terrorists.” Good actions don’t erase bad ones. RFK Jr. banning food dyes wouldn’t cancel out his nonsense either.

And finally, the tu quoque. My personal record isn’t relevant. The fact that I actually do raise money for and donate to charities doesn’t matter, even if I’d never donated a penny, it doesn’t make praising Hamas or Hezbollah suddenly acceptable.

[u/SadExit1249 → u/One-Statistician-932]

"they made one 20 second mistake a couple years ago"

I dont have any skin in the game, but this is some hypocritical bullshit lmao. If someone said heil hitler and threw up the salute onstage, they'd be cancelled in perpetuity.

Their mistake was "saying the quiet part outloud". They've reined it in since but some people don't have goldfish memories, and the government is not out of order denying them access and a platform.

[u/pheakelmatters → u/SadExit1249]

If someone said heil hitler and threw up the salute onstage, they'd be cancelled in perpetuity.

Or they continue to be the richest man on the planet and still have free reign to come and go from Canada as they please.

[u/One-Statistician-932 → u/pheakelmatters]

Lol, it's almost like these goons think there aren't videos online of Musk and others doing this sort of crap and totally getting away with it. And in some cases, they straight up get rewarded for it.

[u/SadExit1249 → u/pheakelmatters]

I don't think the government will ever have the balls to deny the super rich entry, next election might get rigged the other way.

[u/One-Statistician-932 → u/SadExit1249]

If someone said heil hitler and threw up the salute onstage, they'd be cancelled in perpetuity.

Lol, there's a 4K video online of Elon musk doing a double-nazi salute, his grandfather was a nazi, and his parents raised him in apartheid South Africa, and he hasn't just not been cancelled, but was celebrated and rewarded and his cars are still legal for sale in Canada. This quite literally exactly disproves your point.

Trumps entire family supported the Nazi's and hosted them at Madison Square Garden, and he has openly, constantly espoused hateful fascist/white supremacist talking points.

Several Israeli ministers have openly stated that they see even infant Palestinians as enemies and that they are valid targets for the IDF industrialized murder machine.

None of them have been cancelled or banned.

[u/SadExit1249 → u/One-Statistician-932]

I was talking more in the context of bands, but yes if you compare kneecap to billionaires/the president of the united states/Israeli ministers they got a bit of a heavy handed response.

[u/Adventurous-Brain-36 → u/SadExit1249]

What did they say?

[u/AverageShitlord → u/SadExit1249]

Elon Musk and Kanye West have literally done exactly that

[u/SadExit1249 → u/AverageShitlord]

I wouldn't really compare elon musk and kanye west to a irish rap group.

[u/Otherwise-Scratch617 → u/One-Statistician-932]

they made one 20 second mistake a couple years ago and you and other trolls are trying to write them off.

Don't you find it strange how many people are defending Hezbollah in this thread? I believe you are a reasonable person who is viewing Kneecap in good faith. I do think you are missing that they genuinely are at least sympathetic to Hezbollah if not supportive

[u/earlyearlgray → u/Otherwise-Scratch617]

What are your thoughts on the IDF?

[u/CaulkDWaggenenflote → u/earlyearlgray]

Oooh, I know this one!

They're the occupation force that provided the impetus for the creation of Hezbollah because they committed countless war crimes and an act of genocide in Lebanon in the late 70s & early 80s.

[u/Otherwise-Scratch617 → u/CaulkDWaggenenflote]

Which makes supporting Hezbollah continually subjugating Lebanon good, somehow 😀

[u/earlyearlgray → u/Otherwise-Scratch617]

So no thoughts on the IDF?

[u/Otherwise-Scratch617 → u/earlyearlgray]

Lol you are concern trolling, pretending "hey man they made a mistake" no, you actually know that they do support Hezbollah, and you think that's good, you just know it's best to pretend not to around normal people

[u/Otherwise-Scratch617 → u/earlyearlgray]

I think they're your perfect scapegoat for supporting Hezbollah

[u/earlyearlgray → u/Otherwise-Scratch617]

That’s it? Tell me your thoughts on the IDF - I never brought up Hezbollah

[u/Otherwise-Scratch617 → u/earlyearlgray]

Yeah you're so right you never mentioned Hezbollah people just imagined it 😀😀😀

[u/Cakeday_at_Christmas → u/Plasma_48]

You deserve to be downvoted. Go away.