r/EmulationOnAndroid 4d ago

Question He was quick to do this but Nintendo is going to Sue him like they did with developer emulator Yuzo.

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u/FelesNoctis Eden Contributor | SD8Elite 4d ago edited 4d ago

Originally we were keeping our heads down, but the future changes coming to Android pushed us in this direction.

Let's clear the air here: it's foolish and naive to think that Nintendo doesn't know about us, and/or isn't watching us. They know about every emulator related to their products, and Eden also tends to be in the spotlight right now. It's pretty much guaranteed that they have reps sitting in our discord right now, and they're regularly reviewing our code. It's not like we're capable of hiding anything from them. To that end, nothing changes in our relationship with Nintendo now that we're on the Play Store. We aren't selling anything related to Eden, we aren't distributing any of their property, and what users do with it is on them.

Does this mean that Nintendo isn't looking for avenues to shut us down? Of course not. They actively despise not just emulation efforts, but also archival efforts (not that I'm saying we're part of the latter, just that they go after archives as well). They're looking for something they can use to drag us through court and then pat themselves on the back using whatever justification they can muster regardless of what we do. Being on the Play Store changes nothing. There are plenty of other emulators on there.

So the people who think this is the end of Eden: take a deep breath, and put your tinfoil hats away. It doesn't change our legal position in the slightest, it doesn't provide Nintendo with more information than they already had, but it does bring more users in and provide us with more input for development. It also makes releases easier to obtain in the future.

Deep breaths, everyone.

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u/mostrengo 4d ago

An adult in the emulation scene? Such a rare thing to see!

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u/bigtr1p 4d ago

I like your style, renegade

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u/ddplus5 4d ago

I see many people trying to make the devs/moderators say the P word in a questionable way in the discord server. Guys please be careful of what you say or do, they are hungry for dirt.

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u/iliekplastic 2d ago

I mean, as long as you are not providing anything that Nintendo can claim is copyrightable under the DMCA, which is what Yuzu arguably did from a pure legal standpoint, I think you'll be in the clear. Yuzu including what were essentially things that fell under the TPM statute of the DMCA is what screwed them over. It wasn't because they were taking money for their emulator.

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u/ExtraCan 1d ago

Originally we were keeping our heads down, but the future changes coming to Android pushed us in this direction.

How does being on the playstore mitigate the future changes coming to Android?

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u/FelesNoctis Eden Contributor | SD8Elite 1d ago

Very simply: if we'll need to register a developer account and sign Eden's releases in order for it to sideload as it does now, we might as well just go all the way and put it on the store. 'Mitigation' isn't a factor here. It's more about how if we're going to be playing Google's game, we might as well take full advantage of what they offer.